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There is no time for "practice", at least. Besides, the conditions are as follows: the game will be played on an old mirror map or one of the HL+U templates – 8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a 160% or 200. Time limit: 5000+500. Everything else is irrelevant.

HL won't work; otherwise, I'll end up diverging even more and complaining about how poorly the generator performs.
You have time to practice – I'm finishing up the tournaments now, then I'm going to Dnipro for the qualifiers; we can refine the template in a couple of weeks.

Oelm, these versions of the map are practically identical in terms of gameplay and balance. I didn't think anyone would have problems with that. Again, the map will still be symmetrical, so it won't create any imbalance.

Moreover, the changes were made out of necessity - to reduce the number of crashes during generation.

If needed, I'm ready to generate saves for you. Just when ordering, to avoid complaints, don't mention who is playing for which side; just specify the factions, heroes, and bonuses.

Also, to avoid complaints, I recommend playing a game in one go (say, from morning on a weekend until the end) and with mutual agreement on the game settings.

IMHO, the first map is more complex and offers more variety. That's why I suggest playing it. I like the second one much less, especially with the simplifications in the structures. I've generated the first one many times, and I haven't had any problems.

IMHO the mirror in the first version is more complex and offers more variety. Therefore, I suggest playing that one. I like the second one much less - especially with the building simplifications. I generated the first one many times - never had any issues.

Come on... it's the first version that is far more linear - all distances are short, the game follows a strict pattern: grab all secondary skills by week 1 day 14-15, clear all respawns by week 1 day 17, and go into the treasure zone on week 2 day 1. Deviations happen, but not very significant ones.

In the second version, roads are on average slightly longer, respawns are slightly bigger in size, so to optimally grab everything requires more brainpower. And accordingly, there are more variations on the subject of take/don't take, which reduces the linearity of the plot and increases the skill factor.

That is, the game scheme and balance are the same, but there are more development options for a match, which is good.

As for never having issues - well, you were just lucky. I tested it myself and others tested it too; the second version generates much more stably, for some players only that one generates at all, while the first version leads to permanent crashes. So going forward, we're focusing on the second one.

No, of course it's your choice what to play, I was just somewhat surprised by your words, nothing more.

Sorry for the noob question, I'm just not up to date. Is there already a mirror of the Jebus website?

Noob question, sorry, I'm just not up to date. Is there already a mirrored Jebus?

Yes, and it's in the latest release, the link is in the thread about the mirrored template on Bay.

However, yesterday God and Bazazet found a bug in it, so we're waiting for Ivor to re-upload it. If you can't wait, you can PM me or compile the rmg.txt file from the tpz file yourself - it's correct.

GoD seems to attract bugs. I remember in a game against him, my camp spawned 50 Titans! :cool:

In my opinion, the first map is more complex and offers more variety. That's why I suggest playing it. I like the second one much less, especially with the simplifications in the buildings. I've generated the first one many times, and I haven't had any problems.

You're a funny guy. You got offended, and for no apparent reason. Ideally, you should want revenge, even on the battlefield, but it turns out that I'm also trying to get involved, and you're acting like a spoiled child – it's not my spoon, it's not my cup.)))
I'm willing to give you a discount on the price per game, and I'm also willing to give you more time, although knowing about your quick moves, it would be more beneficial to insist on 4k+400. There may also be questions that I am willing to discuss.
But, regarding transferring money and playing in one go (within reasonable limits, of course), as well as sticking to my own approach, I'm not going to back down. I'm not thrilled with the old map, and I don't want to play all the games on someone else's terms.
Anyway, you have time, think about it, the offer to play is still valid.

These are some strange arguments. Isn't it possible to choose something that would satisfy both parties? Pasha's categorical stance is surprising. And transferring the money immediately should be mandatory. There's no point in considering any other option. wlk proved that. (And he did it twice, if he didn't return the money to Meduum).

Well, that’s all, folks. Nowadays, it’s trendy to insult people for no apparent reason (although you can easily imagine the reasons), knowing that you won’t end up in the hospital as a result. I’m not writing to you for no reason; I mentioned the possibility of “opting out.” The templates are all the same – an old camera and three XL templates for any difficulty level. Whose field it is doesn’t matter to me at all. I won’t play something I don’t like because it’s too simplistic, and frankly, I’ve never played online.

That’s what I expected.

P.S. Kostya, I suggested 4 DIFFERENT templates – which, in my opinion, are the most “advanced,” with three of them being 160% and 200% better. However, I was given only one, and that was the one Javdet used in the bay and funky cup, which I only glanced at in single-player. Where did you see any categorical statements?

Vik is a co-author of the mirror maps, so he's promoting the new version, but for me, the advantages of the new one are questionable; there are obvious simplifications.

Why alone? I'm not against equal conditions—let it be one of yours and one of mine, but what to do with the third one?
Out of the four proposed, three are XL. Strange that Jebus Cross and SMKU were left out, for the numbers. I am categorically against XL—the generator's wonders don't do much.
Vic, by the way, is right—the new one has more merits.
Maybe to appreciate them, you need to try them out? Instead of immediately shouting that it's G..

Sure, play the first one on a new high-level map, the second one on an XL map with a three-player handicap, and the third one on an old map – that’s all there is to it.