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What shall we name the establishment?
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“Flooding.” Simple and effective
17.9% 5 votes
Leave it as is – “Fludnyak”
7.1% 2 votes
“A den of debauchery.” How original!
39.3% 11 votes
Brewery
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#36292
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Have you seen the mods for it? It's a disgrace.
First of all, there are good mods; you just need to search properly. Typical examples:
Dark Avenger (seems like there are two parts)
Dark Waters (three parts)

And I won't even mention the fact that there are many mods that simply surpass the mediocre campaign of the second game.
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#36293
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Plesik, please tell me, which campaign in the first or second game is worse?
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#36294
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Plesik, please tell me, which Neverwinter Nights campaign is worse? The first or the second?
It depends on which campaign you're talking about. So:
The original Neverwinter Nights campaign versus the second Neverwinter Nights campaign:
Advantages of the first campaign:
1) Atmosphere of Forgotten Realms
2) Companions are not annoying (except for their stupid AI)
3) Canon
Advantages of the second:
1) The companions' personalities are more apparent, but because of that, you want to strangle half of them.
2) More dialogues, but they are (not all) unnecessarily drawn out or just boring.
But the second one has some serious drawbacks:
1) Lack of Forgotten Realms atmosphere
2) The plot is stupid, but unlike the first part, it is not just non-canonical, but contradicts the world, there are many inconsistencies.

So, for me, as a fan of Forgotten Realms, the second campaign is terrible.
As for the expansions, here's the situation:
The Storms campaign is the worst, followed by Underdark, then Mask of the Betrayer, and then Hordes of the Underdark.
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#36295
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So, you remembered the name?
No, I remember the map.
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#36296
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There are already many mods that are simply better than the mediocre campaign of the second game.
:O
I think the Haven 1 campaign is an example of awfulness, a prime example of how not to make games, but even I have to admit that there are many, very many mods that are worse than it, because the ineptitude of people knows no bounds. If we remember that there are not so many mods for Haven 2 itself (about 600 compared to 4500 for the first part), then according to your words, it turns out that almost any creation is better than the campaign of the second Haven.
More dialogues, but they are (not all) unnecessarily drawn out, or simply boring.
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The Storms campaign is the worst, followed by Underworld, then Mask of the Betrayer, and then Ordeals.
Explain to me what is better in Ordeals than in Mask of the Betrayer.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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#36297
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I agree with Plesen about the atmosphere of the Might and Magic universe in the first part, because in the second part, it's not really felt. But, in the second part, there is a good gameplay atmosphere. For example, I haven't seen such beautiful swamps as in that game. I like the appearance of the second Neverwinter, they didn't cut corners much. As for the dialogues, in the first one, I feel like there aren't enough of them, and in the second one, I haven't played enough to draw conclusions. Although, from what I remember, not much impressed me, and most of them were mainly about the plot or telling about their past, and I prefer improvisations and conversations on free topics, like in Baldur's Gate 2.

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Well, overall, you can play both. The first one is closer to me, and in the second one, there seem to be many possibilities and various features (I read a little about the plot, capturing fortresses, collecting taxes, etc.).

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#36298
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In the first one, there are typical, silly BioWare-style dialogues: "question-question-question-goodbye." They don't really aim for anything more.
I haven't played Mass Effect, but as for the Ordes, I finished it a couple of months ago, and it didn't impress me. The content is good, but the gameplay is poor, especially in the particularly pretentious, epic moments. In Baldur's Gate 2, the Underdark was done better.
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#36299
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Some kind of random rollback. Or is this the work of the moderators?
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#36300
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Moni, Sivi, I'm not going to argue with you. You asked, and I answered.
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#36301
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You asked – I answered.
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Explain to me what's better about Stronghold than Dungeon.
Didn't answer, as you can see.
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Where do we end up when we save the world?
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#36302
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I wasn't arguing, I was just testing a hypothesis. However, I still don't understand what the fans found appealing in the Stronghold faction. There's nothing worthwhile there except for the location with Illithids, and even Aribeth isn't that interesting. I wouldn't give it more than a 7, and honestly, it's more like a 5-6. I even liked the Underworld faction more.
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#36303
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I don’t like the dungeons in Underdark because I don’t like them. Although there are some good and interesting ones, it would be better if they were just simple caves or something like that, so you don’t have to spend the whole game exploring them, but just a little bit, and I still prefer the surface. I only liked the island with the golems and the third chapter about hell. I liked the environment in Arcanum more, especially the desert.
I won’t write about the plots and other details. There are also pros and cons there.

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In general, I wouldn’t mind playing Nwn. You can even get more than two people together, and each person controls only one character, not three.

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By the way, the colors of the options in the poll match the colors of the players in Heroes of Might and Magic IV.

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#36304
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As you can see, I didn't respond.
You know, after seeing the beginning of the post, I just skipped it, not thinking there was anything there besides whining. And what's better in the Stronghold:
1. Companions.
2. Story.
3. Gameplay.
4. Atmosphere.
5. Logic (it exists)
6. Side NPCs.
7. Dialogues.

Why - I won't elaborate, if someone can't see it, then that's their personal problem. I'll take my leave now.
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#36305
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Actually, I wouldn't mind playing Heroes of Might and Magic Online.
Have you forgotten, or did you find a decent version somewhere?
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#36306
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That’s exactly what I mean; I wouldn’t mind playing if there was a decent version available.

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