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No need to be ready. You can go ahead and start.

Let me add my two cents.

I don't like the new trends in Mafia regarding finding clues. I believe that the essence lies in the search itself – it's the main process. For example, I don't understand anything about anime, but I see Neyra's avatar, I go to some random anime websites, I find the biography of this character, I read it, I find white sandals in it, then I look for an image of this character in sandals, and I post it in the thread. But what's happening now? In several games, Lady Slonysh asks, "Who's on your avatar? Are you too weak to name it? Or are you Mafia?" And everyone just names it. Where is the game, actually? But the most surprising thing is that there's no effect from this. Even with "open" profiles, people don't look for clues! They just stopped doing it. Look at the 15th Mafia game. Everyone was searching! Wesker was searching, Nebo was searching, Cash, Brack, I... Hostor, who was Mafia, was sweating trying to find Berber-themed avatars for the townspeople! I also played as Mafia, and I perfectly understand how lazy it is to look for clues as Mafia. But the town forces you to do it with its activity. If you don't look for clues, you stand out. But what's happening now? In the last game, Slonysh doesn't look for clues (at first), which Hostor literally points out. But who would suspect her of being Mafia, when the town isn't looking either!
Well, Hostor is an old-school player, from the BF era, he always looks for clues, regardless of his role. But what about the others? Vegtam said who was on his avatar, the analogy with the Kraken, hang it! But it didn't work.
Now, let's imagine that I'm Mafia and I want to give a good false clue about my avatar. That is, it indirectly points to me and directly/indirectly to someone else. It's actually beneficial for me if the clue pointing to me isn't found right away. But if I'm obliged to say what's on my avatar, what's the point of trying hard and creating such clues? It's easier to come up with a clue that indirectly points to me and hope that "maybe they'll suspect someone else."
In general, here's a brilliant post by Mr. Gur. But this is my personal opinion on the development of Mafia. I am {completely} switching to psychology – I don't like clues in their current form. Please don't take it personally.

The rules don't require anyone to state what's in their avatar.

You can't say, they'll suspect you of being a mafia member and execute you "based on your behavior."

By the way, if you're going to introduce any rules, it should rather be a ban on bothering the GMs with questions like "when will the newspaper be released" and similar ones. This distracts and irritates, which can easily affect the quality of the clues.

And how is it now? In the last game, Slonysh doesn't look for clues (at first), which Hos literally shouts about. But who would suspect her of being a mafia member, when the town also doesn't look for clues!

I spent a good hour and a half rewinding the cartoon "Treasure Island" back and forth to figure out whose hand is holding the Black Mark on Pandora's avatar. And I don't regret the time spent.

...because after that, we understood the clue that pointed to her.

By the way, isn't it a bit early for a new Mafia game? Maybe we should take a break? I have about 95% of it ready, but is the community ready?

I can endure it for a week, I can. :rolleyes: