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Offline Vayshan
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Hmm, what about the Bible and other religious texts? They describe demons... and these mutants don't really look like demons. Besides, there are quite established standards and principles. When you see a demon in Heroes 5, it's immediately clear that it's a demon! But when you see a mollusk from Heroes 6, how can it be considered a demon?
Have you already finished reading the Bible? And besides, what does the Bible have to do with it? Demons are a kind of abstract embodiment of universal evil, having thousands of forms and appearances. As was correctly pointed out above, the infernal nature and evilness of these creatures are beyond doubt, which means they are demons. And a devil is just a well-established image from fairy tales; it was missing in the new Heroes games.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

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Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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OMG, the horns were there, are there, and will be there. It's a symbol of the entire Inferno.
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OMG, horns were, are, and will be. It's a symbol of the entire Inferno.
As warriors, they are more likely to cause laughter, but now all units in Inferno are extremely cruel and brutal, as befits creatures of Inferno.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

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Rather, extremely nasty and repulsive.
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More likely, they are extremely nasty and repulsive.
Did you expect the hellish infernal creatures, embodying absolute evil and chaos, to be cute and cuddly?
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

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I would like
the hellish Inferno spawn embodying absolute evil and chaos
to be brutal, imposing, powerful, and stylish monsters rather than some shapeless crap.
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I would like them to be brutal, impressive, powerful, and stylish monsters, not shapeless junk.
Now, Inferno looks brutal and impressive like never before in the series, and they shouldn't be beautiful by their infernal nature; the uglier, the cooler for this faction. However, I'm more interested in their abilities than their appearance.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

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I don't see any particular brutality here. I just see a big, fat "bleh." They should be stylish! Not just a bunch of walking red... uh... rejects, but cool, impressive, stylized demons.
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Demons should primarily reflect the essence of chaos, rather than some particular style, etc. In my opinion, "a fat, drawn-out 'baaah'" reflects the essence of chaos quite well.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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I don't see any particular brutality.
Definition from dictionaries:
Brutal (from French brutal – rough; beastly) means rough, harsh; cruel, savage.
Learn your facts.
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I remember looking at Inferno in Heroes of Might and Magic III and immediately understanding that these were demons – specifically, biblical demons, not the generic ones that are churned out in every fantasy setting. And they inspire more fear. It's much scarier to face the Lord of the Pit from Heroes of Might and Magic III than any demon from Heroes of Might and Magic V. (It's a shame they weren't implemented very well in Heroes of Might and Magic IV).

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I remember looking at Inferno in Heroes 3 and immediately understanding that they were demons. Specifically, biblical demons, not the generic ones that are churned out in every fantasy setting. And they inspire more fear. It's much scarier to face the Lord of the Pit from Heroes 3 than any demon from Heroes 5.
Are the Lords of the Pit the ones who scratched their behinds when you hovered the cursor over them? I don't know, they never instilled fear in me; rather, they seemed like somewhat comical creatures.

However, the generally accepted sign of "demonicity" is probably the presence of fire and horns, rather than some vague criteria for matching the Bible or other games. In this sense, the demons from the 6th part became less canonical, although I wouldn't say that they lost much because of it. But that's just my opinion.
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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The thing is, in Heroes of Might and Magic V, demons don't differ much from other monsters that just want to kill and destroy. In Heroes of Might and Magic III, however, they are more intelligent, cunning, and won't just kill you outright; they might torment you first. In Heroes of Might and Magic V, they are chaotic and stupid, meaning they don't differ much from orcs. Conclusion (in my opinion): Perhaps many people are used to chaotic demons whose purpose is to destroy the whole world, plunging it into fire, and who mainly use brute force and are just cannon fodder. I, however, prefer cunning and insidious tempters, masters of lies and deceit, whose main weapon is not physical strength, but intelligence. In Heroes of Might and Magic V, demons are more like the first option than the second. (I remember the plot with Biara, but overall, the appearance of the demons doesn't give the impression that they possess great intelligence, which is usually attributed to orcs).

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Yes, I also like the demons – tempters. Horns and red skin are a must, but I didn't like their mix with lizards in the fifth game and with aliens in the sixth. I didn't play the third game much.
Actually, there was an idea that the demons in the sixth game would correspond to one of the seven deadly sins, but that didn't happen. And these mutants don't even look like demons.
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”We will burn the world to ash and dance upon its ruins!”
What do you think of this slogan? In my opinion, it's nonsense even for demons.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
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