Мафия 25. Under The Jolly Roger! — Mafia

Imaris

15 years ago

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Why isn't anyone writing about or punishing Azrael?

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Слоныш

15 years ago

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Yes, the evidence is conclusive. Execute Aziral.

Imaris, the Moon Wolf

Did I understand correctly that Pandora was a maniac? Good thing she was killed; there will be one less death now.

Probably... although it's unclear why there was a smell of herbs.
Now there will be no one to kill the Mafia at night, gentlemen, NNV players and silent players. Let's not hang him during the day; we'll eliminate him. It seems that even the GM has run out of patience watching our pacifism.
I myself voted NNV yesterday only because there still weren't enough votes for execution, plus Lizard doesn't seem suspicious to me at all.

Imaris, the Moon Wolf

We have a lot of revolutionaries here. Like Lizard ;) I suspect him even more now.

What does Lizard have to do with it? There haven't been any clues against him, and the fact that he is Sergey, I didn't consider it evidence, and I still don't.

Imaris, the Moon Wolf

Why is Vegtam constantly silent?

He usually doesn't stay silent. It's the weekend; many people are not at home.

Darkness Зедзи

15 years ago

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Hmm... We need to better understand what happened during the night. The Town didn't have a Night Watchman, the Serial Killer might have committed a murder, and the Mafia might have committed a murder and a block (but there was no block during the night, or they blocked the same Pandora). The question is, who was the murderer. Judging by this part:

The traces of the fight indicated that there were two attackers.

either the Mafia and the Serial Killer came to kill her, which is more likely, or they blocked and killed her, which is less likely. But since the Serial Killer couldn't let the Night Watchman pass without a block, and he was one of the killers or the victim, judging by the hook, let's try to determine Pandora's role. Let's compare:

Her face was smeared with some kind of muck, apparently blinding the poor thing. But even blind, she still resisted to the very end - a true pirate!

The captain's daughter is a beauty, a clever girl - a true...pirate. Secretly, she sneaked onto the ship and is now sailing with him under the guise of an ordinary pirate. But not everyone is so blind, like the captain.

Pandora was, after all, the captain's daughter, it seems. However, there are still doubts due to one point. Therefore, I have a question for Zubr regarding this point:

If the Serial Killer comes to kill her, she will pull him over to the Town's side. The Serial Killer and the captain's daughter will start playing as a pair, and the Serial Killer will become the Town's shooter. In the event of the partner's death, the other will take revenge on the murderer that same night (the Serial Killer's original goal is disrupted) and will die with him.

Let's assume that Pandora was the captain's daughter, and the Serial Killer and the Mafia came to kill her. Am I right in understanding that the Serial Killer would then switch to the Town's side, but would not be able to take revenge due to a conflict with the goal disruption (in order to take revenge, he would have to give up killing Pandora, but in that case, he would not know that she is the captain's daughter)?
If the answer is yes, then it seems that the Serial Killer is now on our side.
Also, it seems that there was a false clue. But it could have been left by either the Serial Killer or the Mafia. We need to think about it more carefully.
The biggest oddity in this scenario is the absence of a block. Or did the Mafia also block Pandora, suspecting her as the Serial Killer, but the witch is simply not listed among the attackers (and she doesn't really fit as a blocker there)?

Why doesn't anyone write or execute Aziryal?

By the way, Imaris, this clue can be easily linked to you. I think it's foolish to vote for someone's execution so early; we need to think through the situation more carefully first.

Wii U ID - Darkness_Zedzi
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WhiteLizard

15 years ago

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Damn, sea devil.) I didn't have time to write yesterday, and already it's tomorrow. But not all is lost... First, I agree that we need to execute Aziral, because the evidence really points to the city. Plus, it's obvious how Wolf ineptly tries to defend him, trying to generalize the evidence:

Wolfe

We have a lot of revolutionaries here. Like Lizard;) I suspect him even more now.

By executing Azi, we will end up with 2 mafia members against 8 townspeople, it seems... Next, regarding the suspicions.

Ney

I called your suspicions "Berber" because the elephant was blocked, and the evidence against Vishmaster is simply fabricated, like Magnus's sixth mafia (hello, Revanka, hello, my beloved Berbers x)).

I don't consider this evidence to be "Berber." This creates a circle of suspected mafia members (3 out of 4):

Morning
Imaris, the Moon Wolf
WishmasteR
Aziral'

I think Neyra is a townsperson this time, just a little mistaken. I don't know about Slonysh yet; I can't judge.

За всем следят машины благодати и любви.

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Слоныш

15 years ago

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By the way, I found a description of the cartoon series about the pirate Jack, and the character in his avatar is from that series. I glanced through Azi's profile... In the cartoon about the pirate Jack, the main characters are the pirate himself and his rat, Snak. "A rat on a ship"?!

Zybr

15 years ago

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Zedzy, the serial killer, eliminates targets early. Therefore, if his goal aligns with the Mafia's, then: 1) the serial killer approaches the daughter; 2) the serial killer sides with the town; 3) the Mafia kills the daughter; 4) the serial killer takes revenge on the daughter's killer.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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Слоныш

15 years ago

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Hold on, could it be that Pandora was a mage, killed by a mana attack? And that's why she had so little health? Maybe I'm wrong, I need to read the thread more carefully.

Imaris

15 years ago

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By the way, I found a description of the cartoon series about the pirate Jack, and his avatar features a character from that series.
I glanced at Azi's profile... In the cartoon about the pirate Jack, the main characters are the pirate himself and his rat, Snak. "A rat on a ship"?!

Someone already mentioned this.
Liz, am I defending Azi? I'm the one who's going to "execute" him and consider him a "mafia member"!
Although, I just realized that I messed up; the clue is based on the profile, and you don't have anything about Lenin and the revolution in your profile. It's just that you were the one who instigated it.
I think there's a clear clue against Azi.

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Слоныш

15 years ago

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I think I should have paid closer attention to Az's profile earlier. The cartoon is less well-known than "Pirates of the Caribbean," so we didn't bother looking for anything there.
But as soon as you open the description...
At the beginning of the cartoon, Jack is captured by witches and forced to marry a monster. A love potion!
The description of another episode: "Mad Jack and Snak go on a submarine to the seabed to find the Pink Pearl." There's your pearl earring.
I haven't found the compass yet, although it's possible that it wasn't a clue after all... I need to review the topic again.

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WishmasteR

15 years ago

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Zedzy, the serial killer kills earlier. So, if his goal aligns with the Mafia, then 1) the serial killer goes to the daughter, 2) the serial killer sides with the town, 3) the Mafia kills the daughter, 4) the serial killer avenges the daughter's killer.

It turns out that such a situation is impossible – there would be two murders. I don't rule out the possibility that both the Mafia and the serial killer visited Pandora (two attackers), but she was also blocked (the Mafia considered Pandora a serial killer and decided to block her so she wouldn't kill one of them).

The morning greeted the pirates with the most disgusting herbal smell imaginable.

The epicenter was in Pandora's cabin.

Isn't this a hint about the Witch? The Witch goes before the killers, leaves no clues, so she wasn't on the list of "attackers."
In general, I need to think more about it...
But Azir has an obvious clue. Execute Azir.

I'm too f*cking old
To sell my soul

Imaris

15 years ago

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A hermit is doing well; he won't be executed.

Happy Life

15 years ago

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Grass is chemicals, chemicals are a witch. The witch visited Pandora.

and she, as a blocker, really wasn't very relevant there

Pandora is either a maniac or a town member. If she is a maniac, then the mafia blocked her as a witch and hit her as a conspirator. Blocking the witch was justified, as the maniac goes out earlier than the conspirator. If she is a maniac, then you can match the evidence to her - the green color in her nickname, all sorts of sylvans, and in general, a love for the color green, which people familiar with her on the forum could notice. England and the army are "Treasure Island." Regarding the murder: in Treasure Island, as far as I know, there were a couple of cool pirates - one-armed (or one-legged), and a blind authority, they lost their full potential in one battle, but they were still fierce. Perhaps the lover of colorful descriptions, Zubr, put in some effort in this direction. This is if she is a maniac. And then "two" - the witch and the conspirator. If the murder fails, no evidence is given.

If she is a town member, then yes, she looks like a daughter, thanks to these somewhat illogical, but quite obvious slips. And although it would be a bit silly for a maniac to stick the murder weapon in the door and leave, in theory, he should switch to the side of the town. He switched. And then the conspirator killed the daughter.

In the event of a partner's death, the other one goes to avenge the killer that same night (the maniac's original target is lost) and dies with him.

This is not the case. Yes, you need to clarify this with the GM. Ideally, there would be three dead. In general, I don't see any reason for the lover, who has lost half of himself, to continue functioning.
The fact that she was blocked by a witch, in my opinion, is a fact. Besides the sleeping coke dealer, no one else has contact with alchemy, and the witch's moves are no longer visible anywhere else. The mafia has no reason to block the remaining helpless town members at night and kill them that same night. They should spread out the night actions and look for the maniac to make their lives easier.

Perhaps she wasn't a daughter either. I don't know what else she could be. I don't see any zealous fighters in the list of roles.

Evidence.
It may well be a false clue. Usually, the maniac provides false clues, because he is a loner and it is more difficult for him. The mafia has expendable people. What can be considered evidence? Blindness, a severed hand. I don't know.
Do as you wish, but if you don't execute anyone, neither on a flimsy clue nor on an obvious one, then all means are useless.

azniv Azi, in the end, we will get 2 mafia members against 8 town members, it seems...

Where did you get these numbers from? Did you lose count?

Added 2 minutes ago
Well, Zubbi said it all himself.

My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.

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WishmasteR

15 years ago

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WhiteLizard

I don't consider this clue to be very convincing. It just narrows down the circle of suspected Mafia members.

Yes, it might be a decent clue, but couldn't Zubr have provided a clue that was not only revealed earlier (albeit in a slightly different form – a torn ticket to Pearl Cove...), but also led to me being accused, and quickly and actively at that?

I'm too f*cking old
To sell my soul

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Слоныш

15 years ago

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Morning

Regarding the killing: as far as I know, there were a couple of cool pirates on Treasure Island – one with a missing hand (or leg), and a blind leader. They lost their full strength in one battle, but were still fierce. Perhaps the author who likes colorful descriptions, Zubr, put extra effort into this aspect.

Blind Pew brought the black spot; Pandora has a black spot on her avatar.

Zybr

15 years ago

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As far as I know, there were a couple of cool pirates on Treasure Island – one with a missing hand (or leg), and a blind leader. They lost their full strength in one battle, but they were still fierce.

Blind Pew brought the black spot, and Pandora has a black spot on her avatar.

Are you also planning to hang Pandora?:D

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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