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15 years ago
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There's another option: Hostor was a boy, he went to check on Kyle, and the Mafia and Town killed them both. This would explain why the boy didn't make a move today, and then the invoice would be a clue.

Either the invoice, or the English army. Or England.

When I think of England, only "Treasure Island" and "Pirates of the Caribbean" come to mind; they both featured the English army. But it feels a bit vague...
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15 years ago
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Slonysh
And would the maniac then seek revenge for that?
Perhaps the maniac thought Hostor was a member of the Mafia and decided to act against his advice. Besides, Host accused many people, maybe the maniac was among them.
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15 years ago
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Yeah, Hostor seems to have found clues pointing to all the players, even the seemingly harmless Pandora. We should also take a closer look at the vial with the pearl earring. Who has earrings or pearls in their profile? After all, we're pirates; someone is bound to have an earring in their avatar.
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15 years ago
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I associate it with England.
England is generally closely associated with pirates. Not only "The Island" and "Caribbean" are related to it.
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Wasn't Xostor a musketeer? The traces of gunpowder and the small amount of Influence points are concerning. He was protecting Kyle, but the maniac ultimately prevented him from doing so, right? The medic is dead. The cabin boy is gone. All the Influence points were definitely used, and the night ended rather quickly. I don't see any reason to skip the cabin boy's turn.
In any case, Kyle followed him: a young, severed head was lying by the door.
Kyle is the cabin boy, and he came to Xostor? But the cabin boy's turn was earlier, so the murders should have been in the area around Xostor, in theory. Or is Xostor a musketeer, and he was defending his post? Or is the cabin boy actually Slonysh? But if that's the case, who is Kyle? The captain's daughter? That's not the best option either, because in that case, the maniac wouldn't switch sides to the town.
Yeah, I think Xostor found clues on all the players, including even the harmless Pandora.
I wrote that the compass could also be pointing to Pandora.
We also need to examine the vial with the pearl earring. Who has earrings or pearls in their profile? We're pirates, so someone is bound to have an earring in their avatar.
The title of one movie: Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. But again, it seems a bit too easy, plus it could be a false clue (and the real clue could be, for example, a love potion). So, we need to look for other options.
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15 years ago
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Ple-Sen
England is generally closely associated with pirates. It's not just "Pirates" and "Caribbean" that are related to it.

I'm aware of that. The compass is also closely associated with pirates in general, but it was still a clue.
And pearls are common in pirate stories.

I mentioned "Pirates" and "Caribbean" in relation to studying player profiles.
If you see a reference to England in other people's profiles, let me know, you're welcome.

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The title of one movie: Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. But again, it seems too obvious, plus it could be a false clue (and the real one, for example, could be a love potion). So, we need to look for other options.

There are no false clues. The murderer can plant an additional clue on themselves, but it must be a real one. That is, it cannot be the case that, for example, Hostor committed the murder, but planted a clue on "Treasure Island," which is not in his profile.

Of course, the murderer tries to plant an ambiguous clue, but in the end, it still points to him.
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There are no false leads. The killer may plant additional evidence pointing to themselves, but it must be genuine. That is, it cannot be the case that, for example, Hostor commits the murder, but the evidence points to "Treasure Island," which is not in his profile.

Of course, the killer tries to plant ambiguous evidence, but ultimately it still points to them.
I consider additional evidence to be a false lead. The idea is that it is used to try to frame someone. It is clear that it should also point to the killer. But why would the killer provide such obvious evidence pointing to themselves? If there was a compass before, which was related to the movie, what is the point of providing a false lead that points to one of the three movies? Unless it is an attempt to divert suspicion from themselves with a clearly incriminating piece of evidence; I don't see any other reason, but it is still quite risky. Although, again, it is not a fact that this evidence is a false lead.
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Kyle is a cabin boy, and did he visit Xostor?
There was a real massacre in Kyle's cabin last night.
This isn't "Kyle went to see Xostor," but rather, he died along with him. Yesterday, there was no sign of the Musketeer, and Kyle was blocked. I think the Mafia got lucky in catching him. Today, they killed him, and the way they did it – like a maniac ripping Xostor's stomach open with a hook – suggests that the Mafia sent the Boatswain himself to break through any defenses. It seems the Musketeer doesn't have any defenses of his own, but the rules regarding him are generally confusing and unclear. The image from last night, showing a pirate with the Boatswain's weapon, as well as the signs of multiple shots and resistance, also support the theory of the Musketeer and Boatswain working together.
The boy didn't go anywhere, so it must be either Slonish or Xostor, since Kyle was blocked yesterday, but he was out and about. First, I don't think Slonish is a cabin boy, and second, Xostor somehow ended up near Kyle's cabin, which means he visited him. He couldn't have left a note, if notes are even allowed in this game (again, I don't see it in the rules), because he was killed. And it's quite possible that he was checking on me in the first night.
This is just a summary of scattered thoughts. There are definitely holes in my reasoning, namely that Kyle didn't go far from his room. Why? Didn't he go to protect anyone today, or did he try to protect Xostor, who was already there? Or was he defending himself "on the spot," knowing that someone would come for him?
And why the young man and the love potion? Was he trying to seduce the daughter? Is the cabin boy involved? But he isn't a cabin boy for the reasons mentioned above. Or maybe there's a huge mistake somewhere in my reasoning.

Regarding the clues: the earring makes me think of Lizard. "On the bottom" - "beneath the waves," plus the girl on his userbar with something in her hand or with jewelry. His group probably has some love songs too, if you dig deep. I don't think this is a strong clue, but it's not easy to connect it to anyone else, except maybe by going through all the girls in the game. And the way he's being quiet also makes me think he's Mafia. He's not very active in writing anyway, but when he's Mafia, you can't get a word out of him.

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There are no false clues. The killer can add an extra clue about himself, but it must be a real one. That is, it cannot be the case that, for example, Xostor killed someone, but the clue was left for "Treasure Island," which he doesn't have in his profile.

Of course, the killer tries to leave an ambiguous clue, but in the end, it still points to him.
You should check out Mafia games 20-21, especially those where Register played as a maniac. You'll find a lot of interesting things.
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15 years ago
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This isn't about "Kyle going after Xostor," but rather that he died alongside him.
My idea was that Xostor could have been a musketeer protecting Kyle, and Kyle was a cabin boy checking on Xostor. This would explain the gunpowder residue near Xostor and why Kyle had a young head.
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15 years ago
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Based on the clues: the earring makes me think of Lizard. "On the bottom" - "beneath the waves," plus the girl on his userbar is holding something or wearing jewelry. His group probably has some songs about love, if you dig deep enough. I don't think this is a strong clue, but it's not easy to connect it to anyone else, unless you start going through all the girls in the game. And the way he stays quiet also makes me think he's Mafia. He's not very active in writing anyway, but when he's Mafia, you can't get a word out of him.

I haven't had the chance to play with him; in the only game where we were together, he was replaced on the very first day, as I recall.

But in general, I don't like figuring out the Mafia based on behavior. In "The Tavern," I only looked for Mafia based on clues (although the townspeople actively resisted my attempts to hang suspected players immediately, saying "that's Mafia behavior"), and I wasn't wrong even once.
But when I decided to hang a player for Mafia behavior, we all cheerfully executed an innocent person! So, no, I'm not good at that (and neither are others, since we then hanged Maurinho - and there wasn't even a shadow of a doubt, a typical Mafia!).
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You should check out Mafia games 20-21, especially the ones where Register played as a maniac. You'll find a lot of interesting things.
I'll definitely take a look, thanks. :)

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My thought was that Xostor could have been a musketeer and was protecting Kyle, while Kyle was a cabin boy and was checking Xostor. That's why there were gunpowder traces near Xostor, and Kyle ended up with a young head.

In general, all the heads got mixed up in the crowd. :/
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15 years ago
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I'm leaning towards the idea that Elephant was blocked to divert attention.
And in general, we lost because there are 7 town members, 4 mafia members, and a moderator still alive; we need to eliminate one mafia member per day.
Blood and gunpowder traces were everywhere: on the floor, on the walls, even on the ceiling.
It's as if a cannoneer blew everything up. On the other hand, this doesn't quite match the ripped-open stomach and severed head.
Kyle is a cabin boy; otherwise, why would he need a love potion? He just didn't make it to the girl.
Or maybe he's a girl who was given a love potion.)
My thought was that Xostor could have been a musketeer and was protecting Kyle, and Kyle was a cabin boy and was testing Xostor. That's why there are gunpowder traces near Xostor, and Kyle ended up with a young head.
Good idea.
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15 years ago
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Imaris, the Moon Wolf
I'm leaning towards the idea that "Slonysha" was blocked to divert attention.
And I'm leaning towards the idea that I wasn't wrong to suspect you. Probably, when they ban me, you'll say it's to divert attention.
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15 years ago
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I have a lead on a suspect, but it would be much better to execute the conspirator, as it's currently more advantageous for the serial killer to target the mafia. When their numbers are almost equal to the city's
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If you see any mention of England in other profiles, please let me know.
At the very least, the text should be in English. There are also other, less obvious examples. For instance, India, which was an English colony.
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Yeah... I thought Hostor was the mafia member.
It's a shame we lost the musketeer, although his mafia affiliation was revealed on the first night, so his death was only a matter of time.
I'll try to look for clues, maybe I'll find something.

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Damn, I'm confused again...

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The only thing that comes to mind is the East India Company from Pirates of the Caribbean... this relates to the supply delivery invoice.

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