Inferno faction discussion. — Inferno

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12/28/2010 9:50 AM UTC

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Yes, there should be at least one archer unit, and we need to consider teleportation. The Cave Lords might get wings... Maybe they'll be a flying unit? They could also get teleportation instead of Archdevils. Succubi could also teleport if they become melee units. But the developers will definitely come up with something else; they've surprised us many times, although not always in a pleasant way ;).

I think mana stealing and imp production should be separate. But imps could only be created after stealing mana from an unfortunate enemy hero :cool:.

Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"

=Feel999=

12/28/2010 10:04 AM UTC

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I hope so, otherwise I’ll have to just watch for 2-3 turns as the enemy unit rains arrows down on me while they’re behind the gates. Basically, they’ll probably make the succubus a caster, not a melee unit; that role will go to the hounds. Besides, the succubus has wings, so maybe it will be a flying unit (I’m just speculating, looking at Heroes 3, where even units with wings walk around instead of flying). Pit Lord will probably also be a caster, and they might even give him teleportation.

Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)

Happy Life

12/29/2010 6:36 AM UTC

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But "fireballs" (from the description of succubi in "Heroes 5") are the prerogative of demonesses, so tormentors will rather throw timely grown bones. Although, if succubi are not ranged units, fireballs may "inherit" to tormentors.

I think both options are quite idiotic. Shooting bones or fire. What a mess.
Succubi from Heroes 5 don't shoot any spheres. Enjoy it, rusification enthusiasts.

Ability: hit a second time after the opponent's attack
Another example of copying from King's Bounty (see Orc Veterans)

Is there any difference between a simple double attack?

My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.

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Победитель

12/29/2010 6:49 AM UTC

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Morning

I think both options are quite idiotic. Shooting with bones or fire. What a mess.
Succubi don't shoot with spheres. Enjoy it, Russification enthusiasts.

Is there any difference between a simple double attack?

You wouldn't argue that succubi shoot fire, would you? The bone attack is a questionable option, but such a theoretical possibility is mentioned in the description.

There is a difference. The Minotaur Guard (from "Heroes 5") will always deal two attacks to the enemy, while the Orc Veteran (from King's Bounty) will only do so if there is a retaliatory attack! If the first happens quite often, I've only seen the second in King's Bounty.

Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"

Arandor

12/29/2010 9:22 AM UTC

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In Heroes of Might and Magic III, Magogs fired with fire and did it quite well. No one else fired with fire, except for monks with spheres, mages with beams from their staffs, etc., so fire-based attacks could be brought back. For heroes, it's not too mainstream (and besides, since they introduced Town Portal and a lot of other stuff from their other popular games...).

Be strong. Believe

Happy Life

12/29/2010 9:53 AM UTC

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There is a difference. The Minotaur Guardian (from "Heroes 5") will always deal two hits to the enemy, while the Orc Veteran (from King's Bounty) will only do so if there is a counterattack! The first happens quite often, but I've only seen the second in King's Bounty.

Clear.

You wouldn't argue that Succubi shoot fire, would you? Throwing bones is a dubious option, but the description mentions such a theoretical possibility.

You wouldn't argue that there are many factions in "Heroes 5", would you?
The bone-throwing option is very silly, especially considering the unit's characteristics.

My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.

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=Feel999=

12/29/2010 9:56 AM UTC

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Morning

Is there any difference between a regular double strike?

Yes, if the opponent doesn't retaliate, the strike will be one.

Arandor

In Heroes of Might and Magic III, Magogs fired with fire and it was quite good.

Yes, I also think that if someone is going to fire with fire, it will be normal.

Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)

Juristis

12/29/2010 10:59 AM UTC

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What is this reform of the 7-level system, and how will it change?

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12/29/2010 12:14 PM UTC

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Juristis

What is this reform of the 7-level system, and how will it change?

7 units, but 3 levels: core (1-3), elite (4-6), and champion (7). Within one level, the units will be approximately equal in strength.

Perhaps throwing bones is a silly idea, but the description says that tormentors grow limbs to attack the enemy.

their bones are capable of lengthening

they use deformations to attack enemies

Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"

Кэп

12/31/2010 1:20 PM UTC

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The Tormentors are something else entirely. The developers did a great job with Inferno.

korrag

1/13/2011 2:20 PM UTC

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By the way, in that video about Orcs, the tormentors weren't red, but brown.

=Feel999=

1/13/2011 4:17 PM UTC

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Unupgraded, they are brown.

Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)

MararV

1/16/2011 6:31 PM UTC

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Where can I see the Inferno hero in good quality? Will he have a mount, or will he travel on foot, like in the "old" days?

Самая тёмная ночь перед рассветом...

Победитель

1/16/2011 7:50 PM UTC

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There is a picture in the "information" section. The hero is a Warrior – an Inferno Knight. Apparently, he will move on foot, as no vehicle is visible.