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Offline Silovik
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Yeah, but to transform a peasant into a Knight, and then into a Paladin, you need a lot of money. Because to transform 250 peasants into archers, I had to spend about 70,000, and another 20,000 on upgrades. But with the Necropolis, skeleton archers grow for free, like mushrooms.
If it didn't cost money, people would just run around with Paladins and Griffons, it's definitely cheating.
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Yeah, but to turn a peasant into a Knight, and then into a Paladin, you need a lot of money. Because to turn 250 peasants into archers, I had to spend about 70,000, and another 20,000 on upgrades. But with the Necropolis, skeleton archers grow for free, like mushrooms.
But agree that the archers turned out to be much stronger than the free ones. :p
And money... you can save it up :)
Мечты сбываются, просто нужно уметь правильно мечтать.

Жизнь нужно прожить так, чтобы Боги в восторге предложили еще одну...
P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:
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A topic came up here that there is no balance in the third game at all; I'll respond – you just haven't played it, so you don't know, so don't yell...
In the fifth game, the balance is slowly being adjusted, not all at once, as they say, so I think the further we go, the more the balance will even out. As for 10k, I personally tore them apart; the only problem is when one person plays against another person; then 10k is practically a death sentence!
Герой в каждом из нас...:rolleyes:

"Истинно могуч тот, кто побеждает самого себя"
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By the time the enemy has 10,000 skeletons, a skilled player will have something to counter them with. For example, the Elf has around 300 archers and 150 druids, the Knight has 1500 crossbowmen and 100 paladins, the Warlock has shock potions dealing 3000 damage, the Wizard has 70 Rakshasas and 40 Titans, plus powerful spells. Only Inferno cannot effectively counter them.
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But agree that the archers turned out much better than the cheap ones.:p
And money... you can save up for it :)
Yeah, while I was saving up to convert them into crossbowmen, a new week arrived. And there wasn't enough money to buy them. So, retraining is a useless thing. Of course, if the player has millions, then they can get 1K paladins.
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A topic came up here that there is no balance at all in 3, I'm telling you—you simply haven't played, so you don't know, stop shouting...
In 5, the balance is slowly evening out, not all at once as they say, so I think the further we go, the more balanced it will become; now regarding 10k, personally I tore them apart, the only problem is when a human plays against another human, then 10k is practically death!

Balance in 3..... hmmm tell me how Swamp on an XL map wins against Dungeon??? (this is just as an example, but there's plenty of imbalance there).

If one person has accumulated 10k skeletons against another, then the second person is an IDIOT, because to accumulate that many you need to clear the entire map and sit around accumulating more.... and a normal opponent won't let a Necromancer do that...
Тьма - это то, что позволяет смертным не забывать, как ярок бывает свет.
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IDIOT, because to accumulate that much, you need to clear the entire map and then just keep adding to it... and a decent opponent won't let a Necromancer do that...

I can't even imagine such a noob...:D
Although, I know one – my brother!:) :rolleyes:
Сила Тьмы - в бессилии света.
Нет невежества - есть Знание
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Keep in mind that summoning such a large number of skeletons requires a lot of fighting, while in the castle, you just sit and the money flows in, and you can upgrade as many times as you want. It's like camping, and then you come out with 2,000 archers!

Guys! Each castle has its own strengths and weaknesses, so each faction has its own strategy! What works well for a mage won't work for necromancers, and so on.
А у нас план... Погост!
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You can't win a battle with just Paladins.
It depends on how many you have. Don't forget about Griffins, and if money isn't an issue, hiring Archangels is also an option.
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It's better to have different types of troops.
Absolutely, that's why I don't like the training mechanic for Humans, but it doesn't make it any less of a cheesy strategy.
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Tell me, why do you need peasants?
My opinion.
1st version - they generate income.
2nd version - they become archers :D
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Tell me, why do you need peasants?
As a Necromancer, I need them to turn into skeletons. But seriously, untrained peasants provide daily income, and they still have many dwellings where they can be hired for free.
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