Posts from CIS Club Championship 2010-2011

2). I'll contact Stinger regarding Dilvish. 3). 4th-5th place is too much. Let's give a spot to 10th place as well. If the date and location of the final are already practically confirmed (May, Michurinsk), why can't participants adjust their plans in advance? And in case of force majeure, they can simply sell the remaining spots for money to those who want them. This practice is not new in Heroes. For the moralists, I suggest you think about how Russia got the 2018 World Cup and, possibly, the 2014 Sochi Olympics, and not stand out (the father of the vampire Edgar from Give Youth!). I hope that this time there will still be a prize fund; it is possible to save 50-100 dollars by May.

Selling spots for money is, in my opinion, a flawed practice. In the previous tournament, I insisted that this shouldn't happen, and who did we ultimately lose? Basically, no one – almost everyone who wanted to and could (in terms of skill and finances) come, did come. Peterius understood the situation particularly well, organizing an additional qualifier, thanks to which Neo, Medium, and he himself made it to the finals. This should only be encouraged. The situation is similar now: if you don't make it in one qualifier, you can go to another, as almost everyone has the opportunity. At worst, you can organize one yourself if you can't travel anywhere.

Paying for a spot is, in my opinion, a flawed practice.

In the previous tournament, I insisted that this not happen, and who did we ultimately lose? In reality, no one – almost everyone who wanted to and could (in terms of skill and finances) come, did come.

Now the situation is similar: if you don't qualify in one qualifier, you can go to another, as almost everyone has the opportunity. At worst, you can organize your own if you can't travel anywhere.

I completely agree. If you have the means and the desire to play in the final, you can either play in several qualifiers (St. Petersburg, Kingisepp, etc.) or organize your own. Of course, it shouldn't be a formal one, but with at least 6-7 more or less well-known players.

4th-5th place is too much. Let's give a spot to 10th place too...

Well, let's assume we won't give it to the tenth, but about the fourth... Kingisepp and St. Petersburg remain. I can roughly imagine the level of play of the person who took fourth place there. In principle, if someone from the top three can't make it, I would vote to give them a spot in the final.
For Siberia, Michurinsk, and even Yekaterinburg, I'm sure that noobs won't go – only the best.

Yes, and one more thing. In my opinion, one quota could be given to Bayazet. The champion of the club championship, in my opinion, deserves the privilege. If there is a new champion, let him prove his superiority in one tournament against the old one.

I'll nudge Stinger about Dilvish.

Stinger and Dilvish had a tough match at ProGamer. Almost all the Moscow veterans were involved in the conflict. Although neither of them is vindictive, I hope they have forgotten about it.
If someone could give me Dima's phone number, I would be grateful. Sorry, I lost it.

It's a pity that there won't be a qualifier in Moscow, with so many strong players.

Vik traveling to different cities and towns isn't feasible for everyone; people have family and work commitments. However, donating a hundred or two dollars to a good cause isn't a critical issue for everyone. A trip to a qualifying tournament can easily cost more money (and time).
Nagana, as always, it's a pleasure to read. ::) If there's a prize fund, say $2,000, the tournament will only benefit from it! Because it might attract the strongest players from St. Petersburg, Moscow, and Minsk. Any trip should pay for itself (not my quote).

since the strongest players from St. Petersburg, Moscow, and Minsk might participate...

I wonder how these strongest players will arrive without a selection process? I find it hard to believe in a second selection in Moscow, and even more so in the first one in Minsk.

It’s interesting how these strongest players will come without a selection process?

No way...
And if you count, three from the St. Petersburg selection, three from Kingisepp, that’s already six of the strongest. Several potentially top players still won’t play; they just don’t care. Of those who remain and won’t participate, they definitely won’t be stronger than the finalists.

I looked at the neighboring topics to see what kind of final we might get.
1. Bayazet - champion of the previous CIS final.
2. Dust - Siberian qualifier.
3. Dirty Player - Siberian qualifier.
4. Deep Mike or PREDS - Siberian qualifier.
5. Scorp - Michurinsk qualifier.
6. Mizrael - Michurinsk qualifier.
7. Lyokha - Michurinsk qualifier.
8. Yekaterinburg qualifier-1.
9. Yekaterinburg qualifier-2.
10. Yekaterinburg qualifier-3.

Three from St. Petersburg and three from Kingisepp will be added. That’s already a solid lineup. And there’s also Ukraine.

I find it hard to believe in the second selection in Moscow, and even more so in the first in Minsk.

I also find it hard to believe in the first Moscow selection. If it weren’t for Sticky, they wouldn’t have played last time. There are many players, but there’s no one to talk to about the subject. Sticky is out, Pit is out, Yama is out, DVSstranger, Stinger, PREDS, I can only talk to Querty. The clan leader, there are enough players there. Apparently, this is the only option.
Another option is to talk to Dilvish on the phone, but that’s even more uncertain.

Vik doesn't have the time to travel to different towns and villages. Family and work are a priority.

Well, you're already planning to go to one village. There's no need to go to the second one – you live there. You shouldn't have any problems qualifying for the final, unless they're self-imposed.

Damn, I couldn't understand why the forum suddenly became more lively.
Turns out, they just banned Vlk. Yeah, his two and a half thousand posts were just garbage... Sorry for the off-topic, I just had to say it.

2 Vik. I wanted to register on Bay, but I can't. What happened? I just wanted to chat in the threads about the St. Petersburg and Kingisepp tournaments.

If possible, register me as a favor (I'll give you my nickname, and I'll send you the password in a private message). Thanks in advance.

Qualifying round results in Kingisepp: 1) Kobra 2) Napalm 3) Wic 4) Preds

I can assume that people will gather for the final. I also hope it will take place in Michurinsk. More details on this after the qualifiers are held. There is a very good club, a large hall, computers conveniently arranged in closed rows (40 units), and a low price. The admins are friendly, though they have no experience, so they need to be watched closely. As a backup option, in case of an emergency — "Legion," experienced admins, but the rest (computers, rooms) won't be enough for the final.

I'll try to arrange prizes, a large engraved cup (that's the champion's concern, how he'll take it home). I don't plan to involve any outside resource (too much hassle). As was already said, participants chipped in 2 thousand each, so there's the prize pool — whoever wants to fights for it, whoever wants to goes off to poker and vodka.

I would suggest a minimum of 4-5 days, but that depends on how people vote. Also, the final should have 4-5 rounds, no less.

News for January 31, 2011. I had successful negotiations with the club management. It's a great place for a tournament. Soon, Mizrael and I will try to launch a version of the game for the finals, test the network, and settings. There are over 40 computers. I thought for a moment about making the tournament larger. But I decided against it. The principle of fair play is the most important thing; otherwise, the meaning of a competition between the best is lost. And it's not possible to run a Swiss-system tournament in 3-4 days, considering the length of the matches – on average, one game takes a day. It's feasible for 20 people, but not for 40. However, we can run a small Heroes of Might and Magic 2 tournament in parallel; there are enough computers, and this area will be slightly away from the Heroes of Might and Magic 3 tournament. The only thing that worries me is the hotel. 1100 per day, which means a player will have to pay 4-5 thousand for 3-4 days. I don't know what to do. I'm in favor of maximizing the accessibility of tournaments and reducing costs so that anyone who wants to has the opportunity to win the qualifying round and participate in the finals. Of course, I'll try to accommodate as many people as possible; there are enough beds and sofas for 8-9 people. Siberians, people from Tambov, plus the head judge, Vic, and someone else... Unfortunately, the practice of renting apartments or houses for a few days, as was the case in Krasnodar, is not common in Moscow or St. Petersburg. They only rent for several months, and everything is already taken, I checked.

The only thing that worries me is the hotel. 1100 per day, for 3-4 days – a player will have to pay 4-5 thousand. I don't know what to do...

That way, no one will pay the fee:(
I have an idea: call them every day until they agree to 4 days or lower the price to an acceptable level. In Minsk, we paid around $500 per person per day, including food.

More detailed information about the club where the final will be held. There is a large hall divided into two separate gaming zones, each with 12 computers. This is a very convenient option, especially for Heroes games. 12 people (conditionally, odd numbers) can watch matches in their zone. The same goes for even numbers. However, it won't be possible to watch the opponent's game, as the zones are separated. There are tables in the passage between the gaming zones, seemingly designed for judges. It's easier for them to work with both zones, plus they can monitor to prevent players from accidentally entering the other sector. Leaving the gaming zone, you can go out into the hall or have a smoke outside (the club is on the ground floor). Overall, the club left a very positive impression; there's nothing more to add. The computer specs are sufficient for Heroes of Might and Magic III (512 MB of RAM, 1 GB of storage). There is also a room with more powerful and modern computers (10 of them), for team games like Counter-Strike and its modern counterparts. The room is smaller but still decent in size, with its own network set up. In case of need, games can also be held there. Actually, I'm planning to use it for Heroes of Might and Magic II players; a small championship is also being organized there. I calculated approximately how many players can gather for the final, considering that three qualifying rounds have already been played, two are currently being played, and two more will take place soon. 1. Bayazet - champion of the previous CIS final. 2. Dust - Siberian qualifier. 3. Dirty Player - Siberian qualifier. 4. Deep Mike or PReDS - Siberian qualifier. 5. Scorp - Michurinsk qualifier. 6. Mizrael - Michurinsk qualifier. 7. Lyokha - Michurinsk qualifier. 8. Kobra - Kingisepp. 9. Napalm - Kingisepp. 10. Wicc - tournament judge. 11. Preds - Kingisepp. 12. Moscow - 1. 13. Moscow-2. 14. Moscow-3. 15. St. Petersburg-1. 16. St. Petersburg-2. 17. St. Petersburg-3. 18. Dnepropetrovsk-1. 19. Dnepropetrovsk-2. 20. Dnepropetrovsk-3. 21. Yekaterinburg-1. 22. Yekaterinburg-2. 23. Yekaterinburg-3. Judging by the first final in Kyiv, some participants may not show up. I hope that those who cannot make it will inform us in advance so that we can find a replacement in time. Priority will be given to those from the qualifying rounds with the strongest lineup. The final is planned for 4 days, according to the production calendar - the weekend - Saturday, April 30, Sunday, May 1, and Monday, May 2. I think that the first round of the final should start on April 30. For example (excluding Siberia and Yekaterinburg). A tournament participant leaves home on Friday evening, April 29, and arrives in Michurinsk on the morning or afternoon of Saturday, April 30. They play the first round. On Sunday, May 1, they play the second round. On Monday, May 2 (a day off), they play the third round. On Tuesday (a working day), they play the fourth round. Those who have lost their chances of winning first place and are in a hurry to work can leave on Monday to be at work on Tuesday. Those who can afford it stay and play. Four rounds in four days - it is quite possible to hold the tournament. So, once again, the dates of the final: from 04/30/2011 to 05/03/2011. Now about the infamous hotel. If a person arrives on the morning of April 30 (day 1), stays in the hotel on May 1 (day 2), and then on May 2 (day 3). Then in the morning, they can check out of the hotel, move their belongings to the club, and leave for home from the club. 1 day in the hotel at 1100 = 3300 rubles. It's not exactly cheap... but it's not too expensive either, considering it's practically for four days. For newcomers who are reading the thread, this is a unique opportunity to meet the entire Heroes elite, watch the matches live, hang out with the veterans, and listen to Heroes stories. But you need to plan now. There have been cases where a person definitely promised to come, and they were expected... but it was all in vain. If you've decided to come, save money for the trip, don't rush, and weigh your options. I was reading the thread on the Portal about the Ukrainian qualifier. If you're going, it's not to Lipetsk, but to the city of Gryazi. This is a satellite town of Lipetsk, 20 kilometers away, a major railway hub. There are constant trains and electric trains to Michurinsk, the distance is 60 kilometers, less than an hour to travel. P.S., if you're buying tickets, write about meeting here! And please indicate the arrival station (written on the ticket). We have two stations - Michurinsk-Uralsky in the city center and Michurinsk-Voronezhsky on the outskirts. There have been cases where guests confused the stations and had to be searched for. :smile50: Damn, I wrote a long post again. :)

The Kyiv final was also initially planned for May 1st, but it ultimately had to be postponed due to potential mass absences, as far as I understand. Still, in my opinion, May 6-9 is a more convenient option for those with families. Many people make plans for holidays and other activities. After the qualifiers, it would be logical to hold a vote among the participants to determine the dates, as an unresolved date could be a demotivator for participation even at the stage of these qualifiers.

I know about Gryazi, but I couldn't find any trains to get there. It's a major railway hub for you, but for us, it's just a memory of Peter the Great's journey.

damn, where is Minsk, the city of heroes?