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Hey Prorock, you can still get the classes by playing on SOD, they just won't work during the game, but they will work in the arena, so keep that in mind. Also, if you played on SOD, which I think was a mistake, because troop experience only exists on TE, and all my troops are very well-leveled, except for the flies. For example, Chaos Hydras with an elixir have about 460 health, and their attack and defense have increased by about 7! Since troop experience wasn't disabled, it will be taken into account in the arena, which is a big plus for me and a minus for you, Prorock!
No worries, it will be a lesson for me in the future! Although, I still wouldn't have played this map on TE, as the portal was really necessary!
This match will be played for us!:) We can now relax and wait for the results!
Natasha will announce the results soon!
Sincerely, Prorock.
So, instead of you and me, the computer will play, but using our troops and heroes? That's a shame, because artificial intelligence can't yet compare to human intelligence.
Unrelated to this topic, a technical question. In the additional options -> subscribe to topic, I set up instant email notifications, but I haven't received any emails. Is there anything else I need to do to receive notifications about replies?
So, instead of you and me, the computer will play, but using our troops and heroes? That's a shame, because artificial intelligence can't yet compare to human intelligence.
This is unrelated to the topic, but a technical question. In the additional options -> subscribe to the topic, I set up instant email notifications, but I haven't received any emails. Is there anything else I need to do to receive notifications about replies?
No, there will be no autobattles or computer gameplay! Real people (experts) will play for us. Additional forces will be involved in controversial situations.
Emer-Gen
19 years ago
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to Prorock:
I used the portal; Lord Deird has the Fire Expert skill, and he used it to teleport, carrying an army to Mephala.
to Prorock: I used the portal; Lord Deer has an expert in fire magic, and he used it to teleport, carrying his army to Mephala.
I understand, that's what I thought!
And I freed him at the beginning of the second month and immediately KILLED him! :):):)
Hey, do you know what happened to Natasha? Is everything okay with her? Have her internet problems been resolved, or is she still struggling with them?
Sincerely, Prorock.
Emer-Gen
19 years ago
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to Prorock, I don't know, she's probably busy, we're not the only ones bothering her.
I constantly had this problem when I used Internet Explorer with a slow internet connection. Do you have any other options for accessing the internet from another computer?
That's a shame!:(
Sincerely, Prorock.
Added 2 minutes ago Could skeletons be taken to the Arena?
Another reconstruction and a switch to a new network access number, and as a result, huge difficulties, both with accessing the network in general and with opening the necessary pages! :( :( :( And the most unpleasant thing is the problems with downloading saves from heroes.ru through Opera and accessing it through Internet Explorer. Well, I somehow managed to download everything...
So, about the Arena. I will try to do it in the near future. Preliminary assessment - Emer-Gen wins. Dragon scale armor, a good warrior, and troops that are more than halfway upgraded. Upgrading is especially important because of the elixir of life! As well as Mephala. Prorock's chance lies in magic. Expert Shield and Blessing. But a very serious problem is the low morale of the army.
Added 14 minutes ago Prorock;42604
It's okay, it will be a lesson for me in the future! Although I still wouldn't have played this map on TE, the portal was really needed!
The map was originally designed so that the player would have a choice between completing a quest to obtain land or using Inteus. I slightly simplified the task for playing on SoD, which made it easier to play with the portal. But playing on TE is much more profitable due to the possibility of increasing the army's life by one and a half times through upgrades, which, together with the elixir of life, should guarantee success. And the quest is completed by fleeing from the computer with an army of upgraded Gorgons, who can easily kill one Crystal Dragon. But fire and earth are needed not only for using the portal, but also for magic.
to Prorock, I don't know myself, maybe she's busy, we're not the only ones asking her.
Yesterday I was thinking - you really have a big advantage. It's definitely worth playing on the Tournament Edition. And I used to rack my brains, wondering why the leaders have such parameters!
Tell me, but isn't it disadvantageous to play speed maps on the Tournament Edition?! You don't need to level up anyone, and as you know, the AI has pre-leveled units at the beginning! Don't you agree?!
Sincerely, Prorock.
Emer-Gen
19 years ago
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to Prorock: Possibly, but there are some nuances. For example, in the clan tournament map "Forward, Vikings!", heroes level up to level 6, but I found nothing about how units level up. Maybe it's mentioned somewhere (I'll have to reread). Consequently, hero progression is practically zero, troops are questionable, classes are almost unreachable; only the bonuses in remote numbers remain, for example armor and resistance. Everything points to SoD.
Also wanted to say regarding leveling heroes. It's not necessary to level manually, there is a special program for this
Yes, as for the arena, I also have magic - expert weakness, but I can only do it 2 times :) magic is only level 1 because of earth
Yesterday I was thinking – you really have a big advantage. It's still worth playing on TE (Tournament Edition). And before, I wondered why the heroes had such stats!
Tell me, but isn’t it disadvantageous to play speed maps on TE?! You don't need to upgrade anyone, and as everyone knows, the AI starts with already upgraded units! Don't you agree?
Sincerely, Prorock.
EMER-GEN ARENA ANALYSIS – PROROCK
The armies of the players are quite close in terms of hit points. Emer-Gen has 51,647, while Prorock has 56,248. However, skeletons are not affected by the elixir of life for Prorock, and skeletons make up one fifth of his entire army! Emer-Gen built up worse, but he almost maxed out the troops' attack power against Azure Dragons. This makes the elixir of life more effective. Therefore, Emer-Gen is already in a better position. HEROES: Emer-Gen - Mephala – expert warrior, attack/defense – 48/47. Prorock – Galtran – no class, there is no resistance for the Warrior class, attack/defense 37/35. This difference arose due to the lack of Dragon Armor +4 to attack and defense, and the Warrior class adds another +6 to both parameters. But even with equal stats, Mephala’s specialization is slightly better than Galtran’s advantages; the skeletons are just too slow. TURN ORDER IN THE ARENA. A very important factor if there is effective magic or a strong unit capable of attacking without retaliation. In this case, neither player paid much attention to the turn order. As a result, the first move goes to 2 Archdevils from Emer-Gen, then 23 Archangels from Prorock, angels, flies, and wyverns from Emer-Gen, titans from Prorock. It turns out that the main forces enter the battle last. And it is not so much the first move in general that matters, but the first move of the strongest troops: Chaos Hydras and Mighty Gorgons for Emer-Gen, and Hydras and Skeletons for Prorock. Emer-Gen has a clear advantage; upgrading his troops gave him not only extra hit points but also increased the speed of the creatures, and all of them go first under otherwise equal circumstances! MAGIC. There were quite a few good spells on the map, but the players decided to fight hand-to-hand. Emer-Gen doesn't even have Magic Arrow, and he has only one expert spell – Weakness. Prorock is doing much better: Lightning Bolt, which deals slightly more than 1000 damage, expert Shield, Stone Skin, Blessing, Healing, Weakness. He has over 500 mana. The magical battle is his last chance. MORALE AND LUCK. Emer-Gen – morale +4, luck +2, Prorock – morale -2, luck – 0. TERRITORIES. Emer-Gen chose cursed land! Prorock – grass. This means that Lightning Bolt will not work on cursed land, and Emer-Gen’s victory is beyond doubt (even Archangels cannot resurrect anyone!), while on grass, the chances are approximately equal.
Luminousa's Result: Hero Peer level 16, stats 10-9-15-10. Mana 178. Army with 16,000 hit points, composed of Inferno troops without devils. That is, everything is clear without an arena.
Unfortunately, during the preparation of the starting save file, a very important script failed, which automatically creates an arena from the sent saves. Therefore, please wait a little longer for the arena; I have to do everything manually. Although I am about 75% sure that Emer-Gen wins, it is still unclear what the score will be in battles on grass.
And now to the question of playing speed maps on TE. There are several options for settings regarding monster upgrades. Upgrades can be completely disabled, or they may only be available to the AI, etc. Thus, the game version itself affects how advantageous it is to play solely due to the settings. In the "Forward, Vikings!" map, for example, I turned off experience gain for monsters altogether. And the main difference became that one hero comes with the army every week.
:cool: :cool: ATTENTION!!! ALL PARTICIPANTS IN THE TOURNAMENT WHO WISH TO RECEIVE A BONUS FOR PARTICIPATION ARE REQUESTED TO URGENTLY FILL OUT THE FORM POSTED HERE: /topic/at/30734/ AND SEND IT TO ME AT natasha@heroes.ru!
Emer-Gen
19 years ago
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When filling out the form, should I enter the information directly into the "boxes" or next to them?
:cool: :cool: ATTENTION!!! ALL PARTICIPANTS OF THE TOURNAMENTS WHO WISH TO RECEIVE A BONUS FOR PARTICIPATION ARE REQUESTED TO URGENTLY FILL OUT THE FORM POSTED HERE: /topic/at/30734/ AND SEND IT TO MY EMAIL ADDRESS natasha@heroes.ru!
I don't know if I have the moral right to a bonus :) (I am somewhat upset that my save from the second round was somehow ignored both in and outside of the competition). And I think I wouldn't be last place :) As far as I understand, this is an application for a plastic card? What system? Which bank? What are the maintenance fees?
Prorock
19 years ago
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Question for Natasha: Should this form be filled out only once? For example, I participated in 2 Tournaments - what should I do? And another question: What is this for, if it's not a secret, and what will come of it?
Respectfully, Prorock.
Added after 7 minutes To Emer-Gen
A huge thank you to you for participating in the 3rd round, because your game taught me a lot. Outnumbering you many times over, I realized that there is also a very important QUALITY! I no longer care who wins, because my goal for THIS SPECIFIC Tournament was - TO LEARN (it was already known in advance that I would not get any prize places).
The goal was ACHIEVED, thanks to all its participants!
Thanks to you, I learned how to dismiss a hero on TE):):):)
When filling out the form, should I enter the information directly into the "boxes" or next to them?
It doesn't matter.
Added 5 minutes later Zingel;42926
I don't know if I have the moral right to a bonus :) (I'm a little upset that my save from the second round was somehow ignored, both in the competition and outside of it). And I think I wouldn't have been in last place :) I understand this is an application for a plastic card? What system is it? Which bank? What is the maintenance fee?
This is a bonus for everyone who participated in the Tournaments on HeroesWorld for the first time. The save wasn't completely ignored. The last place was assigned due to being late, and the rating is calculated based on the actual results. The same was true when calculating the rating in "Knights of Honor" and will be in the Clans tournament.
Regarding the plastic card, I won't provide information yet. Since it is sent not immediately, but as bonus points accumulate. But you won't be disappointed with this prize!
Added 3 minutes later Prorock;43116
Question for Natasha: Should I fill out this form only once? For example, I participated in 2 Tournaments - what should I do?
Sincerely, Prorock.
Fill it out once. I'll try to organize something else for the Clans tournament later. I was planning something specifically for the Clans, but it didn't work out. Both for the Clans that aren't here yet and for me.
In total, three save files were submitted: Prorock, Luminous, and Emer-Gen. I'm waiting for the password to the archive from Prorock. The submission of save files for the arena tournament is now closed. This means we can now announce the tournament winners: 1st place - Pred (places 2, 1, and 4). Total points: 7 2nd place - nprf (places 1, 3, and 4). Total points: 8 3rd place - PALADIN (places 3, 2, and 4). Total points: 9 4th place - Emer Gen (places 4, 5, and even 1). Total points: 10 or more 5th place - Prorock (places 8, 4, and 1-3). Total points: 13-15 6th place - Zingel (places 5, 7, and 4). Total points: 16 Followed by Luminous, pagan, Alexey Pank, and Nills.
If there had been more participants in the third round, the leaders would have had a chance to compete for the top spots, but it turned out differently.
In the third round, the fight for victory will be between Prorock and Emer-Gen. Luminous's save file is clearly weaker.
Congratulations to the winner - Pred. He truly deserved the main prize! Excellent performance in all the played stages. I understood that I needed to defeat the golems, but I couldn't manage to do it. And since the azure dragons and everything else were already defeated, there was nothing to gain experience from. That's why I didn't send the save file. Although, thanks to magic on the magical land, I could have won against Emer-Gen, but I would still have lost on the cursed land. But I never send bad save files; that's my principle. I hope no one will be offended by this. And the fact that I wrote that it was enough to send a save file turned out to be true. Even if I'm second in the last stage, Pred moves down one place, and I'm at the top. It's just math.
