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korrag
The unit turned out to be rather weak. After seeing the artwork of the spider queen (I'll call her that), and her different forms, I didn't understand why they could create the spider queen in 2 forms, but couldn't allow us to choose between succubi and incubi, and have them in our army:mad:
No, not in 2 forms, it's just 2 of her incarnations, and you decide how to play and what to transform her into. (I hope this will add at least some variety). As for the succubi, it's a shame they didn't do it that way.

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It will definitely be overpowered for the Inferno faction.
It's the second imp. The replacement isn't great. They replaced something bad with something else...
Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
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No, the Imps looked pretty good :), I wouldn't call them terrible. But the Maniacs are complete nonsense. And "Madman" is not a suitable name for a unit at all. Sigh, they really ruined the faction.

By the way, Lordesat, why do you say that the Maniacs will be overpowered? They are supposed to be a basic unit, so they shouldn't be given strong abilities :confused:.
Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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No, the Imps looked pretty good :), I wouldn't call them terrible. But the Maniacs are complete nonsense. And "Madman" is not a suitable name for a unit. Sigh, they really ruined the faction.
I mean that neither Imps nor Maniacs fit the current faction, and you wouldn't say they are comparable to the Dog or Succubus units.
Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)
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Where are the demons? Where are those demonic cuties? Why were they replaced with all sorts of freaks? And if a Pit Lord becomes the champion, the faction will be completely ruined.
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And the maniacs are complete nonsense. And "crazy" is not a suitable name for a unit at all. Ugh, they really ruined the faction.

Well, that's just your subjective opinion. I actually like it. I feel like this will be my favorite faction.
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Werewolf
Well, that's just your subjective opinion. I like it. I feel like this will be my favorite race.
It's my opinion, but is it really that subjective? Those same "maniacs" caused outrage among many users:
I don't like this crazy guy. He's definitely going to be overpowered in Inferno.
The improved unit is called "Crazy." It sounds stupid, but at least it's better than "maniac."
The unit still turned out to be stupid, and after the art of the "spider lady" (I'll call her that) and her different forms, I don't understand why they can make the spider lady in 2 forms, but they couldn't make both succubi and incubi, and let you choose which one you want in your army.

Demons really wouldn't fit into the "scary Inferno," but maybe they would have diluted the dark atmosphere of the faction :o. The maniac is definitely nonsense. At least they could have kept the nightmare horses; their name would have fit right in :(.
Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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The concept of a serial killer who, after death, ends up in hell as a狂暴 and distorted creature, still driven by the same thirst for murder as in life, isn't that far-fetched.
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I also think that having a "maniac" character isn't a bad idea.
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.


G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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Perhaps they could have added the Maniacs and Demonologists then. (at least as neutral factions.)
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Am I the only one who thinks that after death, souls don't reincarnate as demons? Sinners are one thing, demon overseers are another. All sorts of beasts (nightmares, imps, demons) in the faction fit the concept of demons very well. I don't understand why they added non-demons, that is, torturers and maniacs. They really look more like humans. And in the demon faction, humans somehow don't fit :p. For the same reason, a militant scientist-demonologist cannot be added to the faction. And if as a neutral unit, it will be just another example of copying from King's Bounty.
Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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"Terrifying Inferno," but perhaps it would have diluted the faction's dark atmosphere :o. The Maniac is definitely nonsense. At least they should have kept the nightmare horses; their name would have fit perfectly :(.
Yes, they should have kept the horses; the Maniac is okay in its normal form, but the upgraded version is a complete disaster. I haven't encountered such an uninteresting and simultaneously absurd unit anywhere else. What makes it terrifying? Enough whining about this already; after all, the artwork and the unit model in the game are slightly different, and everything will look much smaller on the battlefield;). Be grateful to the developers that the Pit Lord doesn't look like one of the initial sketches; that sketch, in my opinion, looks more interesting than the current Pit Lord (found it on the Ubisoft forum...).
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Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)
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Major Whirlwind
I also think that the idea of a maniac isn't absurd.
They could at least change the name for decency's sake...

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A serial killer who, after death, ends up in hell as a mad, distorted creature, driven, as in life, by a thirst for murder, is not such an absurd idea.
The description of the origin seems fine, but what prevented the developers from calling the maniacs berserkers?
Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)
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It's my opinion, but is it that subjective? Even those "maniacs" caused outrage among many users.
So what? By quoting two people, do you think you've gathered enough information to confidently speak for the "majority" of users? Where does this self-confidence come from? And also: stop repeating that the "faction was ruined" - everyone already understands your opinion, and repeating a banal absurdity doesn't make it any smarter.
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Is it just me, or do souls not reincarnate as demons after death? Sinners are one thing, and demon overseers are another. All sorts of beasts (nightmares, imps, demons) in the faction fit the concept of demons very well. I don't understand why they added non-demons, that is, torturers and maniacs. They really look more like people. And in the demon faction, people don't quite fit :p. For the same reason, a militant scientist-demonologist cannot be added to the faction. And if as a neutral, it will be just another example of copying from King's Bounty.

Inferno has become more like Disciples 3, and if that's the case, they could have added it. The entire 6th installment turns out to be a collection of different games :D.
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They should have left the horses, the regular Maniac isn't bad, but the upgraded one is a complete mess. I haven't encountered such an uninteresting and simultaneously absurd unit anywhere else. What makes him scary? Enough whining about this already. After all, the artwork and the unit model in the game differ slightly, and on the battlefield, everything will look even smaller.
I hope they don't go too far in creating the unit models. In my subjective opinion, demons shouldn't look like that. Strong – yes, cunning – yes. Ugly – no. Then everyone will be afraid of them, and no one will sin, which doesn't align with their goals. :)
P.S. Soon, three games will merge into one: Heroes of Might and Magic, Arcomage, and King's Bounty 7 :D
 

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All sorts of beasts (nightmares, fiends, demons) in the faction fit the concept of demons very well. I don't understand why they added non-demons, that is, torturers and maniacs.
Correction: the faction is called not demons, but Inferno, and all 1000 forms of demons in Shio are part of the Inferno Castle (there just isn't enough space for everyone:D), therefore, maniacs and torturers should also be considered demons because, since they ended up in Shio, they became (were) demons.

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Then everyone will be afraid of them, and no one will sin, which does not correspond to their goals :)
Then everyone will be afraid of them and obey them, or they will die of fear, and the bravest will fight back...

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I didn't like the Breeders. Although, in general, the unit is quite original, with sharp tentacles; there are 2 forms presented in the art – perhaps, like with the Weaver of Fate, it will be possible to choose a form. And the producer also looks very much like a Zerg from Star Craft 2. Maybe they will be the champions?... Although, no, there will be no 2 forms, according to the description, in its normal form, the Breeders are unable to move, but they will mutate into a flying form like the Zergs. And the description says that the Breeders create imps and can eat them, and they, like imps, steal mana...
In short, the Breeder's mouth is not just a mouth; it's something more serious:D
Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)