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If they play RP-4, it will be a $30-50 bet against Redmi (betting that he will lose). If it's anything else, I'm not that interested (at least because there are stronger castles than Inferno). It seems like Redmi will try to avoid the topic. If he were really interested in the game and the result, he would behave more respectfully. To tell Term that he is supposedly being held back as a noob is simply beyond the pale.
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If they play according to RP-4 rules, I'll bet $30-50 against Redmi (betting that he will lose). If it's anything else, I'm not that interested.
Decide whether you're going to bet or not, regardless of the rules they play by :smile51:. My bet is $10 on Redmi.
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I was actually writing about viewing the map while Mikogo is enabled with a continuous game screen.

How is that possible? Does it imply that the broadcast is from the entire computer screen?

P.S. 2Van: What don't you understand? I'm ready to bet on RP-4, but not on anything else.
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So, will there be a battle, or will they just grumble and then disappear? :mad:
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I still don't understand if there will be a battle, or will they just grumble and run away? :mad:
But it was fun :D
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Read through the thread a bit, it's amusing... I understand that the whole issue started because someone nitpicked about the phrase "50 goats against 117," but it wasn't specified whether it was against an opponent in an online game, or just a general statement. So, it was just a playful comment. Then, someone else came along and, in a very eloquent way, proved that it's possible to have 50 goats against 117, and it doesn't matter if it's in single-player or not; those who disagree should stay silent. Now, the second person is following the principle of trying to completely shut down the first person because of their high moral ground. to readme Play the game and calm the restless one) (I'll bet on you).
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I suggest adding a rule allowing for a restart if the starting hero, whose specialty is a ballista, doesn't receive a ballista at the start. Otherwise, you end up with a hero like Gurney who doesn't have a ballista and starts with 15-20 goblins, while all other heroes have 1-3 stacks initially.
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I suggest adding a rule allowing for a restart if the starting hero, whose specialty is ballista, doesn't receive a ballista at the start.
Otherwise, you end up with Gurney, who doesn't have a ballista and starts with 15-20 goblins, while all other heroes have 1-3 stacks initially.
I often chose map 111 for this reason. This problem doesn't exist in Warlords.
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I suggest adding a rule allowing for a restart if the starting hero, whose specialty is a ballista, doesn't get a ballista at the start.
Otherwise, you end up with Gurney, but without a ballista, and with 15-20 goblins, while all other heroes start with 1-3 stacks.
That was already discussed. And what if Bron comes without vasas, or Valeska with 4 bows, or Ivor without elves? It's all unclear; you should just play Warlords instead.
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I propose to supplement the rules with a clause about a possible restart if the starting hero, whose specialty is the ballista, does not receive a ballista from the start.
Otherwise, it turns out that you pick, say, Gurni, and he has no ballista, with 15-20 goblins, while all other heroes have 1-3 stacks initially.
A war machine is nothing more than a second army stack.
Gurni without a ballista with goblins is a hero with 1 stack — the same as Bron with gnolls, or Shakti with 1 stack of Troglodytes.
Gurni without a ballista with goblins and orcs is a hero with the 1st and 3rd stacks but no 2nd — the same as Bron with gnolls and flies.

When all heroes are dealt with 1 stack, it is hard to play Shakti, Valeska, Bron, and especially Gurnisson. But I see no point in singling out Gurni separately — if a restart is to be allowed, it should be for everyone.
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Kluka
A war machine is essentially a second stack in your army.
Gurani without a ballista and goblins is like a hero with one stack – it's the same as Bron with gnolls, or Shakti with one stack of troglodytes.
Gurani without a ballista, goblins, and orcs is like a hero with a 1st and 3rd stack, but without the 2nd – it's the same as Bron with gnolls and flies.

It's difficult to play with a single stack for all heroes, and this applies to Shakti, Valeska, Bron, and especially Gurnisson. But I don't see a reason to single out Gurnisson; if you're going to give a break, give it to everyone.
And I'm suggesting not just Gurnisson, but all heroes whose specialty is a war machine, even if it's just a tent, at the start, of course. Because this is more of a game bug than just one of the stacks, a bug that was fixed in WoG. And take, for example, our European colleagues; they have this written in their rules, and in my opinion, it's quite fair.
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What's the difference between Gurmi without a ballista and Tazar with 14 gnolls? No rests allowed:smile51:
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What’s the difference between Gurny without a ballista and Tazar with 14 gnolls? No rests:smile51:
The difference is the same as if Tazar came without the defense skill, which is his specialty. In other words, it’s a game bug.
Since this question has arisen among different people at different times, it means that not everything is smooth here, and it will continue to arise until either the game itself or the rules are fixed. If you take Tazar with 14 gnolls and Gurny with 14 goblins without a ballista, it is obvious that Tazar will win if you compare the stacks and specialties without any division into single units.
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What does specialization have to do with it? And if I start with an Alchemist, what then?
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Would you like to have cows at the start for Alkin? Or a manticore for the Blue faction? The fact that Bron comes with basilisks is already an imbalance. I'm saying that if you compare heroes with 1 stack, then a ballista without a ballista is weaker than others with 1 stack, whether it's Valya or Tazar, it doesn't matter.
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