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Or the clown killed him as the 13th...

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From this phrase, it follows that Nereid was supposed to be burned in her own home, but thanks to a lucky coincidence, her home was not there.

6. Clues about the killers are given in the reports based on the user's profile (nickname, avatar, signature, etc.). If the assassination attempt is unsuccessful, the killer will find out, but will not know why it was unsuccessful. No clues are given for unsuccessful assassinations, except for those that the killer claims himself. The reports also contain a hint about the role of the deceased. Clues about the chosen name are given only when it is difficult or impossible to come up with clues based on the profile. The killer can plant 1 additional piece of evidence at the crime scene. It must point to him and be original (i.e., there is no need to leave clues that are "for the hyper-observant"). As for the difficulty of these clues, there is quite a lot of freedom, but the GM still reserves the right to reject a specific clue, with or without explanation.

I also want to point out that Neyra wanted to hint that Death auto-killed himself :) When she said, "Why can't I see Death's night kill?"
Yesterday, I thought Neyra was a clown, but now I'm starting to think she's Death.

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As for burning down the house, it's not a hint about a murder. It's a description that an attempt was made! There is no hint about the murderer.

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Regarding Lizard.
I also want to draw attention to the fact that the newspaper is called "Tricks," which suggests Lizard - the illusionist.

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Regarding Azi - he definitely voted very strangely yesterday. Instead of executing DDG, he chose not to execute anyone... We need to think about what this means... He doesn't seem like a mafia member... At least he's definitely not on the same team as the Hatters, and he's not with the Smokers either... He doesn't seem like the 13th either; there's no evidence against him... Maybe he's a clown... We need to think more...

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Or the clown killed him as the 13th...

If the clown killed him as the 13th, then there would be 2 kills. They would both happen at the same time.

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And also, if we assume that Lizard was the 13th for some reason, then the Hatters would already win. In this case, they would already have 3 votes out of 6. And the only Smoker isn't a threat to them: the clown's block + a kill. So let's assume that Lizard was the illusionist, and that there is only one Hatter left in the game. I understand why Hermit wants to say that there are 2 illusionists in the game. It's very beneficial for him as a Smoker. It's beneficial for him to make everyone focus on executing Arandor, and then on executing Azi.

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In this case, they would already have 3 votes out of 6.

I think I made a mistake here... I miscalculated... There are only 7 of us left in the game...

Regarding Lizard. I also want to point out that the newspaper's name, "Focuses," suggests Lizard was an illusionist.

No, it suggests that an illusionist or a clown was involved. :) If Lizard were an illusionist, the name would be something like "The End of Illusions" or something else... But who was he then, if not the 13th, especially since there was evidence against him as the 13th?..

And also, if we assume that Lizard was the 13th for some reason, then the Cylinders already have the victory. In that case, they would already have 3 votes out of 6. And the only smoker isn't a threat to them: a clown block + a murder. So let's stick to the idea that Lizard was an illusionist, and that there is only one Cylinder left in the game.
I understand why Hermit wants to say that there are 2 illusionists in the game. It's very beneficial for him as a smoker. He wants to make everyone focus on the execution of Arandor, and then on the execution of Azir.

No, for now, it's still 3 votes out of seven, but that's only for today... :) Well, then explain, Registr, why the clown supported the Cylinders yesterday, and why Azirel didn't execute DDG? :) And maybe you can finally explain why I'm a smoker, other than "based on behavior" and because Arandor said so. :)

I don't see any actions by the Illusionist in the newspaper.
It seems he was chasing me, but someone else caught up with him. :)

The Clown was supporting DDG because they had 2 players on their team, and he wanted to win with them. As for Azi's actions, I'm puzzled... Maybe he's the Clown himself... Then everything falls into place.

Well, if we assume that the Illusionist is still alive, then who was chasing me with clearly bad intentions?

Hermit, I consider you a smoker because you and Gur worked together quite effectively. Gur, as it turned out, was a smoker. Your duo is very well-coordinated. :) Anyone who has played psychological Mafia (without clues) will understand.
Regarding the evidence against you, during Pandora's murder, there was a clue: the car code "k9785od". You also have a code on your avatar, although it's different, but nevertheless, no one else has any code. I tried to find some connection between these two codes; the connection is weak, but I'll still express my opinion.
"9785" - this code corresponds to "i7he". i is the 9th letter of the English alphabet, "h" is the 8th, and "e" is the 5th. So, we have the code "i7he". On your avatar, the code is 1706. Also, it consists of 4 digits. The first 2 symbols of these codes are almost identical: "17" = "i7". The third and fourth symbols of the code "he" refer to your nickname. Something like that...

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Lizard was the Illusionist. And the evidence against him as the 13th was quite far-fetched. He's sitting on a bench, but that doesn't necessarily mean it has to be a bench in an airport. I don't see any hint of an airport or any airplane... And that, as far as I remember, was the main piece of evidence against him as the 13th.

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By the way... If the newspaper title is an indication that the Illusionist was active, then where is his action in the newspaper?

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In general, in my opinion, the following bad guys are still alive:
1 smoker, 1 Cylinder (DDG), the 13th, the Master of Death.
The Clown and 2 innocents are also still alive. :)

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In general, I think it's best to eliminate the smoker now (there's already one vote for him, why waste votes?), tomorrow we eliminate the 13th, the next day we eliminate Death, and finally, DDG.
Before the execution of Death, AntiFive will actively check all the players. So that we don't make a mistake. He will have 2 checks. :)

I vote to execute Hermit.

Maybe he's a clown.

You guys are the clowns. =[br][/br]

2 peaceful players

Antifa and Tainik, but where is the Mystic who was active last night?

Holy crap! The Lizard was a clown/illusionist! The city, as depressing as it is, is completely screwed. I don't believe it: Hermit, Arandor, and Ver.

Smoker, you bastard, why did you burn down the house? =/ The worst part is, he showed up at my place unexpectedly! And while I was getting cookies for tea,
he just set the house on fire! =/ I won't let him in again:smile06:

Regarding the Lizard, I'm 100% sure he was a bad guy. Moreover, I think he was an illusionist! Why? I'd like to draw your attention to the following:

Several boxes were found in the apartment containing various blueprints, diagrams, sketches, and paintings.

There you have it – "murder planning"!

Yes, that's probably why Ar knows who he was =P

Yes, I was wrong about his death. He was probably just lying low all this time. Otherwise, Ver wouldn't be singing while washing her neighbor Revanka's dishes. But death played its role well, as it deprived the Cylinders of all their chances :)
Regarding the execution, let's not be stupid and finally execute the Smoker! He's already annoyed everyone here.
Execute Hermit

Tomorrow, we need to execute Vervolka, and then look for Death.

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Yes, if the illusionist is alive, there are almost no peaceful people left in the city! :(

Antifive and Tainik, but where is the Mystic who was active last night?

There are 3 possibilities here:
1) One of the Antifive-Tainik pair is actually Mafia, actively writing notes for them.
2) Smet has already died, and we now have 3 town members.
3) The Mystic was hit by a smoker's car last night.
I'm leaning towards the 3rd option. That Pandora is the Mystic. I hope no one thinks she was a Guardian, as Arandor said yesterday.
That's why there's no Mystic action today. That's how it is...
We don't have a blocker... So we need to somehow survive this night. One Mafia with a full kill will go into action, and a second Mafia with a 25% chance won't be sleeping either. That's the situation...

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That is, not a Guardian, but a Watcher.

Regarding the register, Vegtam and Dariel were smokers in both cases, and there was a hint of their role in the murder and execution. In the case of Gur's murder, there was no mention in the newspaper that he was a smoker... And Gur wrote very little in general. If you don't want to be left with two cylinders and a clown tomorrow, listen to why death is still alive, and why the 13th is still a Lizard, not a Werewolf! I'll write it now. And you, Death, listen, and you, smoker, listen... and you, Anti-Five/Hideout.

There was no mention in the newspaper that Gur was a smoker when he was killed...

Quote from the newspaper:
"The body lay in the center of a circle of candles. Judging by the books on the shelves, the deceased was interested in occult sciences."

Why wouldn't he be a smoker? In my opinion, everything is obvious here. And Gur's role was most likely that of Mabuse.
Or are there any other roles that this description would fit?

And regarding the fact that Gur didn't write much. Well, I'm not saying he wrote a lot ;) I said that your connection is apparent. And you don't need to write a lot for that...

Besides, there is one piece of evidence against you, and I described it. If you think the smoker is someone else, then say who it is. And who is the 4th member of the smokers' team: Dariel, Vegtam, and who are the other two?

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I'll write it now.

In general... I'll be waiting.

Lizard is number 13. I'm almost 100% sure of it! Here's why.

- First, those who have played Mafia before will understand that the newspaper's name, "Tricks," in its current form, doesn't indicate Lizard's role in any way. If he were an Illusionist, it would be called something like "The End of Tricks" or "Tricks Are Over," but not like this. This name only suggests that a clown was active and successful.

- The clown, when choosing a night kill, will use the night kill of number 13 because smokers can't kill an Anti-Five, who might still be alive, and the Succubus's cylinders.

- Let's look at the newspaper's name again. The trick of the night is that the 13th Lizard was killed by the 13th! That's why the newspaper is named that way.

The solution to this trick is clear from the phrase "The first version about suicide was dismissed." This immediately indicates three facts. First, death is still in play. Because only if it were alive would Lizard's suicide with the weapon of number 13 be possible. Second, it wasn't death that redirected Lizard's night kill onto himself. And third, that his suicide was possible in this way; otherwise, Thor wouldn't have used that word. Since he wrote "suicide," it means it was quite possible with the weapon of number 13. The fact that Lizard was number 13 is 100%.

Gur hardly wrote anything on the forum... What kind of connection is that?! :( Show me this connection! Where is it!? It's frustrating! And Gur wasn't a smoker either!

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And this "Born to crawl..." Lizard is a lizard...

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Do I need to prove that lizards are born to crawl?

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And not to fly?

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Understand, Register, Lizard is number 13, and the clown wouldn't align with the cylinders if there was only one lit Dagger of Disruption with a 25% chance.

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Register, and it can't be that the clue is given half by the nickname and half by the avatar... It can only be given by either the nickname or the avatar.

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Yesterday, Arandor was trying to eliminate Verovolka; today, he was trying to kill you at night, judging by the description in the newspaper... Now, he wants to eliminate me along with the clown, and you're falling for it... Tomorrow, you'll be left with a smoker, two cylinders, and the clown, and tomorrow it will be the villain's (Illusionist's) turn. :( It's just funny and sad to hear about the connection with Gur... Show me this "connection"!.. And don't hope that the smoker will kill the Dagger of Disruption tomorrow; he didn't kill it today or yesterday, along with number 13.

- If the Clown chooses the Murder skill, he will use the 13th skill because smokers cannot kill the Anti-Five, who may still be alive, and the Succubus's cylinders.

The Succubus is dead. Nothing prevents the Clown from choosing the Cylinders skill, especially since all Cylinders (except the Illusionist) have a lower initiative than the 13th. In general, it would be most logical for him to choose the Illusionist's skill, as in this case there is a 50% chance of not leaving any clues.

- Let's refer to the newspaper's title again. The focus of this night is that the 13th Lizard was killed by the 13th! That's why the newspaper is called that.

Well, no one is going to hang the 13th today ;). The execution of the 13th is scheduled for tomorrow. Besides, it will be clearer tomorrow.

By the way... But why isn't there a skill for the Lizard himself? If everything was as you say, then it should turn out that the Lizard moves at the same time as the Clown. Both have the 13th skill. The Lizard would have time to make his move. And where is the Lizard's action in the newspaper then?

Gur hardly wrote anything on the forum, damn... What connection?!

You both vote the same way. Identical position when voting against Arandor (when Mage was executed). In this case, you were almost in unison ;)
Well, okay... Let's leave this connection alone.

There is a clue with numbers - there is.
There is another clue - Someone mentioned it a long time ago (I think it was Mage, although I'm not sure). Let me remind you what it was about. There was an attack on Arandor with an old German car. Your 4 horses in the signature - they strongly resemble an Audi. That's it...

The hint cannot be given half by the nickname and half by the avatar... It can be given either by the nickname or by the avatar.

Clues are given based on the player's profile. Nowhere does it say that it cannot be half about the nickname and half about the avatar... It is quite possible! Both are in the profile.

By the way... Who do you suspect is a smoker then? And who is the other smoker?
There should be 4 smokers: Vegtam, Dariel, and 2 more. At least give some guesses ;)

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And don't hope that the smoker will kill DDG tomorrow, he didn't kill him either today or yesterday, along with the 13th.

I have a hunch that no one is going to kill him at all. Even the city didn't want to execute him yesterday ;)
Well, he may even turn out to be useful to the city when we execute Death.

You vote the same way. Identical position when voting against Arandor (when Magger was executed). In this case, you were almost speaking in unison ;)

You're either confusing me with someone else or you're trying to mislead.

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Four horses – four rings – even "evidence" from Arandor would be less convincing… I could just as easily say that a signature made of dashes and zeros could be content from regmstr. And let’s ask Torius if evidence can be half based on a nickname and half on an avatar? What you are saying about the evidence related to me is simply absurd... The first two letters are taken from the avatar, the second two from the nickname. Nonsense.

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Where did I say anything in unison with Gur? Gur was one of the few who didn't change his vote against Magereson.

You changed your vote at the last moment, in order to execute Mage.

And let's ask Toria if a clue can be given half based on the nickname and half based on the avatar?

I'm not against it - ask him.

And who are the other 2 smokers? I'm still looking forward to your versions... Are they both in the game now???

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As for the various combinations and behavior on the forum, it's all subjective. I expressed my point of view.
Right now, I just don't see another candidate for the role of smoker...

You changed your vote at the last moment. In order to execute Madge.

But why didn't Gur change his vote when I was allied with him? Where is our alliance? Show another example besides that day! And it wasn't at the last moment, but long before the day ended. And I only wanted to execute Madgerson because your evidence about the code seemed somewhat convincing at the time...

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Thorium, please tell me, could one piece of evidence be given half based on the nickname and half based on the avatar?

I didn't change Gur because your opinion was already enough, or maybe I just didn't have time...
Oh well... It's all too subjective... I've expressed my point of view. I had these thoughts as soon as I saw the description of when Gur was killed. That's when I realized you were a smoker.

And after I deciphered that, I became even more convinced.

Regarding the German cars.
"The car was an old model, the kind they used to make in Germany, even before the unification of Europe."
And what kind of cars are made in Germany? Audi, Mercedes, BMW, Volkswagen. 4 main factories. 4 types of cars = 4 steeds. ;)

And you know what's the most important thing that points to you? It's that you absolutely don't want to name your blacklist. Who do you suspect? Who is the 2nd cylinder (if Lizard is the 13th)? Who are the smokers (I asked about the smokers twice).

Maybe you'll name who you think the bad guys are now? Where do we go from here?..

I'm not asking for any convincing arguments, just some simple guesses and a couple of thoughts on each candidate (even if they're vague)