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Even with suppressing the Darkness, the "Dark Knight" might still hinder the Orc.
Саня Изи
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KillAndAction
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yeah, I just made a mistake:D I definitely meant Fallen Knight.
VaRvArHawk
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An Orc, even without any enhancements, can effectively defeat Darkness, even when using the Berserk skill, but it's more difficult against Light.
Саня Изи
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yes, I just made a mistake:D of course, I meant the Fallen Knight
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Orcs can defeat darkness quite well even when using Berserk, but it's more difficult with light.
KillAndAction
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Well, I don't know... Haven still doesn't benefit much from Education. Primary stats will grow as needed anyway (especially in the late game). And by taking Education, we lose a truly important skill... And I repeat: there are very few builds against which you can't find a "counter-build".
VaRvArHawk
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I've never seen Orcs easily handle the Dungeon faction. Please provide the corresponding replay.
I can't offer a recent replay right now, but there was one last year on our internal clan subforum in the "sharing experiences" section.
KillAndAction
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I can’t get there: I’m not a member of the “Vampires” clan.
Ereb
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Regarding education:
Neither orcs nor the Haven faction need it! The stats are already quite good (especially for the orc – I’m really annoyed by why there’s such a large percentage, 45% (I think), for stat upgrades – isn’t the attack stat a bit too high? It would be better to distribute it between defense and attack!).
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I think I wrote somewhere that this is with maxed-out skills, all at their maximum level, around level 30-34!
An orc Knight defeats almost everyone, teaching both light and darkness!
The result: mass slow + mass haste (it looks very good – the orc is furious!).
Since the orc often has a very large attack, mass stone skin + mass confusion + mass weakness is awesome!
Plus, we have 4th and 5th level light and darkness spells, so the orc has little chance of survival!
And we will have attack, defense, and leadership!
P.S. Luck must be increased to at least 5, even if you have to dig it out of the ground! (Knight set as a gift).
KillAndAction
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I'm still betting on the Orc in this matchup. You also need to know how to manage your Rage points...
Саня Изи
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I can't offer a fresh replay right now, but I think there was one last year on our internal clan subforum in the "sharing experiences" section.
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Please tell me how to view replays, what program is needed?
Sorry for the off-topic.
Саня Изи
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Regarding the "Education" skill:
Neither the Orcs nor the Order need it! The stats are already quite good (especially for the Orc – I'm really annoyed by why such a large percentage, like 45%, is allocated to stat upgrades – isn't the attack already high enough? It would be better to distribute it between defense and attack!).
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I think I wrote somewhere that this is when all skills are maxed out, around level 30-34!
An Orc Knight defeats almost everyone in most cases, and also learns Light and Dark spells!
The result: mass slow + mass haste (it looks very good – the Orc is furious!).
Since the Orc often has a very high attack, mass Stone Skin + mass Weakness + mass Feeblemind is awesome!
Plus, he has 4th and 5th level Light and Dark spells, so the Orc has little chance of survival!
And we will have attack, defense, and leadership!
P.S. Luck, even if you have to dig it up from the ground, needs to be increased to 5! (The Knight's set is a gift).
KillAndAction
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But in Haven and in Dungeon, there are clearly no spells that can help against an Orc...
Саня Изи
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Why have so many spells? The main thing is to have the necessary ones. This largely depends on the faction. If you need something from the Dungeon, learn Dungeon spells; if you need something from Haven, learn Haven spells. Why overload a Knight with magic? He needs defense, attack, and leadership against an Orc. So, learning both light and dark magic at the same time is too much. Therefore, the most rational option is dark magic with subjugation.
KillAndAction
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No one is suggesting simultaneously developing both light and dark magic for Haven. It's clear that this is complete NONSENSE... What does it mean to "overload with magic"? Retribution, Holy Vengeance, Dispel, Haste, Stone Skin (of course, the last two spells can be learned for both defense and attack) wouldn't help Haven?
And then, Darkness (I've probably written about this 8 times already) isn't a panacea against Orcs.
The game Heroes is designed in such a way that there isn't a single build that is effective against any particular faction...
And then, Darkness (I've probably written about this 8 times already) isn't a panacea against Orcs.
The game Heroes is designed in such a way that there isn't a single build that is effective against any particular faction...
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