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I'm seeing this topic for the first time, I have no idea how I didn't come across it before... :confused: natasha, it's nice to know that there are people who take a close look at solving issues related to life on the forum... (tournament life)... The idea is good... it needs to be implemented in reality, and then some conclusions will follow...
This is the first time I'm seeing this thread, I have no idea how I didn't stumble upon it before...:confused: It's nice, natasha, that there are people who take a close approach to solving issues regarding life on the forum...(tournament life)... The idea is good... it will need to be put into practice, and then some conclusions can be drawn...
It's almost implemented in 3 heroes. In the official information about the progress of the Tournaments, I post an updated rating after each round! Upon completion of round 2, I will calculate everything at once, including adding the "Knights of Honor" there. There are some difficulties with 5 heroes; they wanted to introduce virtual money there. Although I have calculated for both 5 and 2, and data exists for both. A general opinion is needed, and then ratings can be put on the HW main page. Joker and I discussed this a bit.
She is almost embodied in 3 heroes. In the official information about the progress of the Tournaments, I post an updated ranking after each round! After the completion of 2 rounds, I will calculate everything at once, including "Knight of Honor," and add it there. There are some difficulties with the 5 heroes; they wanted to introduce virtual money. Although I have calculated everything for 5 and have data for 2. We need a general opinion, and then we can publish the rankings on the main page of HW. Joker and I discussed this a little. Excellent...:) I think "Knight of Honor" will take root on the site with our joint efforts. As for the 5 heroes, who came up with the idea of virtual money? It's good that you decided to systematize the Tournaments and create a ranking... Then we can hold them constantly, and people will be drawn to them, and then we can think about prizes or we should already be thinking about them, I don't know. We need to create a topic and post all the information so that people can look at it and evaluate it; I think everything will go great. ;)
P.S. Although, why create a new one when we can post it here; we have a choice.
Excellent...:) I think "Knights of Honor" will take root on the site with our combined efforts:) As for the 5th installment, who are they, the ones who came up with the idea of virtual currency? It's good that you've decided to systematize the Tournaments and create a ranking... Then you can hold them constantly... and people will be drawn to them... and then you can think about prizes or whether you need to think about them now, I don't know... We need to create a topic and post all the information so that people can see it and evaluate it... I think it will be a success...;)
P.S. Although, why create a new one, when you can post it here, well, there's a choice...
Regarding "Knights of Honor," I still have a different opinion. I don't think that this form of offline play is promising. The essence of the game, at least for me, is choosing a strategy, developing some non-trivial methods of combat, etc. I like maps where there are difficult quests and it's not immediately clear how to complete them. Playing according to the "hit and run" principle is not for me. I also like to play online not on random maps, but on fixed maps from the St. Petersburg Tournaments. Skill should be the deciding factor, not chance. That is, as an experiment, such a tournament is interesting, and I am ready to help in its implementation, but as a tournament held regularly, I highly doubt that there will be people who want to participate. Perhaps only as a tournament for beginners, for whom it is difficult to immediately understand the essence of arena tournaments. Most of my acquaintances even play speed games very reluctantly, and here it is difficult to create another task in which the factor of chance will not be decisive. The idea of virtual currency came from HeroeSportsPortal... And I don't want to discuss who specifically came up with it and why they wanted it. I don't accept the principle of bribery. A ranking is a ranking; if it can be bought or sold, then I'm out. I started with the ranking and the tournament schedule. If you look, you can see that it was back in December of last year. Saying that everything will be a success... is not serious. They will look, evaluate, and then successfully talk it over, after which they will forget about it. I'm just counting the numbers for now. When a certain amount of statistics is collected, it will be clear whether the system works or not. In addition, this system was created with the aim of creating an automated dueling system here, which previously functioned on heroesleague-duels. If we can solve this issue, then we can make it public. I'll leave the topic here for now. Moreover, people still play the 3rd installment more than the other versions, including the 5th.
And regarding prizes, you always need to think about them before announcing a tournament. In all the tournaments that I hold, there are prizes!
It’s good that you’ve taken on the task of systematizing the Tournaments and creating a ranking system... Then you can hold them constantly... and people will be drawn to them... and then you can think about prizes or whether you need to think about them now, I don’t know... You need to create a topic and post all the information so that people can look at it and evaluate it... I think everything will go great...;)
P.S. Although, why create a new one, because you can post it here too, well, there’s a choice...
It’s time not only to systematize the Tournaments but also to decide who can run them! Today, anyone can come here and post an announcement: I’m starting a Tournament, here are my rules. The Clans are already starting matches. But there are no real rules. There should be one ranking system on the site, one Tournament Coordinator for each version, one system for inter-Clan matches and reports about them. Just as 2 moderators were appointed for the forum, the same should be done for Tournaments. If I had to guess: 2 heroes - Qwerty, 3 heroes - natasha, Varg-Nar, 4 heroes - Странник, Mynos, 5 heroes - I didn’t look at who’s there, I don’t play, sorry. The Coordinators submit the rules for each version for approval with the admin. And they decide among themselves on the timing of the Tournaments for each version so that there are fewer conflicts. All of this needs to be done before the new year and posted on the main page of the site! Everything else, if there are interesting initiatives, can be decided by the Tournament Coordinators, and discussions on the entire forum will be unnecessary.
Prorock
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To IronAxe
What do you think about the Elo rating system? I'm talking about it because it has some very good potential!
Sincerely, Prorock.
Как много в жизни есть путей Для добродетелей и мира.
To IronAxe How do you like the Elo rating system? I'm talking about it because it has some good potential! Sincerely, Prorock.
Well, it's a classic. How complex are the calculations for this system and the automation of these calculations? After all, one of the conditions of VDV for the rating system is its simplicity. Therefore, personally, I am not against the Elo system. But will it be implemented? :) If the simplified scheme I proposed doesn't work :(
Well, this is a classic. How complex are the calculations for this system, and how automated are these calculations? After all, one of the conditions of the VDV system for calculating the rating is its simplicity. Therefore, personally, I am not against the Elo system. But will it be implemented? :) If the simplified scheme I proposed doesn't work :(
My email isn't working, so I can't check what you sent me (although I see that you sent me 2 messages this morning!!!)
Elo is a harsh but fair system, and I'm not saying it's perfect and that we should adopt it right now. This topic was created for discussion, but unfortunately, the main defender of this USEFUL topic is currently absent, and it is unknown when he will appear.
I suggest you post the essence of your system right HERE (in the same format as you sent it to me)!
I am not against your system - it is quite SUITABLE for discussion and DESERVES attention!!!
Sincerely, Prorock.
Как много в жизни есть путей Для добродетелей и мира.
ELO is a harsh but fair system, and I'm not saying it's perfect, nor that we should adopt it right now.
It's probably perfect for the purpose it was designed for. For Heroes, maybe some adjustments are needed.Prorock;52237
I suggest you post the essence of your system right HERE (in the format you sent it to me)! I'm not against your system – it's quite SUITABLE for discussion and DESERVES attention!!!
It's quite a lengthy text, and with examples, maybe I'
It's such a long-winded text, and with examples too; maybe I'll trim it down and post just the essence in a condensed form a bit later? You and VDV have already seen the full text.
You can post the full original text here with the examples as you wrote to me; it still won't be longer than the first post by natasha!
So don't be shy;)
Respectfully, Prorock.
Added after 2 minutes IronAxe;52250
It's probably perfect for the thing it was designed for. For heroes, maybe something needs to be changed there.
As I understand it, by "thing" for which the Elo system was designed — you meant Bookmakers and their betting system;)?:)
Respectfully, Prorock.
Как много в жизни есть путей Для добродетелей и мира.
Varg-Nar
