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Posts from Discussion about the Britvachka-Valenok party.
I don't even know after everything that's happened. Of course, I understand that there are disputes on the forum, and maybe he is a cheater, but judging by what's happening, if any player makes a couple of questionable moves, they're immediately labeled a cheater. Apparently, you just have to follow the established paths. If now the AK (Anti-Cheat) receives saves where opponents made illogical moves (like, why did he go there instead of there), I think the AK won't be able to handle it by the end of the year. I can send a few such saves myself. Let them sort it out.
P.S.: If anyone has played with the readme file, please send me the game saves. We'll find illogical moves and send the saves to the AK for banning the player.
P.S.: If anyone has played with the readme and has save files, please send them to me. We will find illogical moves and send the save files to the AC for banning that instance.
Well, I played, I have the saves on my computer, I can send them in 10 days, but! The readme broadcasts ALL his games, and there are always viewers, so I don't see the point in looking for illogical moves there.
Besides, who will look for illogical moves in beginners? Almost all their moves are illogical. So no one will send them to the AC.
The point is that the illogical move was made by someone who is definitely not a beginner, and that's why all this fuss.
Specially for readme I will repeat, to eliminate any speculation about my ideas
1. Force assessment: parameters slight advantage for Nella, battle magic was present, I was losing in power, thought it was insignificant, since I would have won a turn earlier. If necessary, an exchange or buyout + shackles were available, a chance to intercept.
2. I jump over the cliffs into Inferno territory. I see an entrance to the underground and a road to the secondary Inferno hero. According to the template, there's a treasure zone in the underground - I go down and see no one.
3. The road led to the secondary hero, and the roadside objects were probably cleared + in case of failure, a trap, I decide to go up so they can't reach me, and then depending on the opponent's movements choose the next route. An unclaimed Dragon Utopia luckily appears, turned out to be a level 2. If I had headed down, I would have also found a Dragon Utopia, of which there were 5 in this treasure zone.
Britva, on which turn did Valenok spot the treasury? Besides, not all of it was there. Furthermore, you had an Imp familiar for 1200 if I'm not mistaken, and you DID NOT KNOW about Valenok having the Sphere/Cloak, therefore the exchange could have been conducted quite favorably - minus 6 Angels minimum per round with such a familiar, so there was nothing to fear, either go forward for an exchange, kill the Angels (they were Valenok's only strong striking stack at that moment), or go to the pink computer, or go west into the swamp for two Dragon Fly Hives. THAT'S IT. But you jumped into the corner, which means you loaded the save and found out that the opponent had a level 3 Cloak... otherwise you wouldn't have chickened out of going for an exchange... and with the Cloak, sorry, Nella crushes Gurney into nothing, the exchange would have been completely unfavorable for you.... You could come up with better excuses in 2 months... but you couldn't even manage that... you won't convince me.
I looked at the replays from game 147; there's no need to consult a fortune teller, everything is clear. Gurney knew too much... By the way, you're forgetting that game 147 came before the players' saves, after which Gurney started playing boldly and flawlessly... it's too beautiful for a poor desert dweller...
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And Valenok is a reliable guy; he doesn't mess around with nonsense, you're wrong to criticize him...
P.S.: If anyone has played with the readme file, please send me the game saves. We will find illogical moves and send the saves to the AC for banning that instance.
Hey, where did you come from, girl?
What does banning have to do with it? What illogical moves are you talking about?
If you had written a month earlier, I would have sent you hundreds of them; I've already cleaned everything up!
Britva, at what turn did Valenok burn the "moshna"? It wasn't even all of it.
Valenok didn’t burn the “moshna”; if you have more than 4 cities, the advantage is displayed in the tavern. Albert@s
I looked at saves from 147; there was no need to consult a fortune teller; everything was clear. Gurni knew too much... By the way, you are forgetting that save 147 preceded the players' save, after which Gurni started playing boldly and flawlessly... it's almost too good for a poor desert dweller...
Added 1 minute ago And Valenok is a reliable guy; he doesn't mess around with nonsense; you're digging into him for no reason...
So, Valenok is reliable, but Britva, who has played over 200 games on this forum, is unreliable? Have you even looked at Valenok's saves after 223? If not, take a look; maybe you'll understand something.
The conclusion is clear: online is evil, everyone here is a cheater, so let's all move to offline :D :D :D
That's not necessary for everyone, enough honest players on HeroesWorld. But Britvo4ka's screenshots look convincing, at least there's something to analyze. Although I personally have nothing against Vailenok, we haven't even played with him. In short, you guys have given AK some work to do ))).
146 Nella is stronger, 147, Gurney acrobatically grabs the utopia, but how did Gurney get there... everyone sees it, but nothing can be proven in this world... there is game experience, and it suggests... not a good move... what arguments can there be, what claims can there be, there are people who know, there are people who guess, and there are people to whom everything is a matter of indifference... WHEN will it be possible to play fairly in the best game in the world... probably never... or with friends for fun... it's a pity that this is happening... the 21st century... everyone is smart... maybe it's for the better?
I wonder, why did I put those emoticons at the end? :)
Yes, I understand you ))))
Added 13 minutes later Albert@s, I think it's better to play the season with trusted people whenever possible. And tournaments, again, if possible, maybe we can broadcast them (of course, if we're talking about people we don't trust). But again, we've already discussed this on the forum, and unfortunately, not everyone has the opportunity to broadcast their games. So, yes, unfortunately, certain circumstances prevent us from enjoying our favorite game and competing on a level playing field. But fortunately, there aren't that many "not-so-good guys" among us, so we're still alive and will continue to fight this problem together :smile19: :smile16:
Personally, I don't really believe that the player Valenok is cheating (though it can't be ruled out), it's just that if a person plays at an average level or lower, searching for logic in their actions is sometimes pointless; you can't always find it there. For example, he took the conservatory (the one in the screenshot), then cast DD, saw that there was somewhere to jump, and just went there on a whim. He got lucky once; next time he might not.
Although generally speaking, his actions as a whole are far more suspicious (including ignoring non-secondary resources). Although again, why would someone with such obvious tells contact the AC.
--------------------------- Albertas, you should probably learn how to play first, and then you can evaluate whether it was possible to play like that without knowing the map or not.
Specifically to Vik:
Jumping over the rocks to the lift is a reasonable action; I could easily have done that myself. The goal here is clear — break the chain, catch the father on the move, disrupt the opponent's plans, etc.
But ! Going toward the Dragon Utopia is a heavily negative move (if you can't see the Dragon Utopia). Running across the wilderness when there are unexplored roads is not very strategic at all, and running the father across the wilderness where "everything has already been stolen before us," and without prior scouting on top of that, is complete nonsense. Or a cheat. A normal move here would be either to continue along the road or portal home.
You seem to admit that jumping to the opponent is understandable, but it's unclear where it is written on the map that everything in the treasury has allegedly already been stolen. On the mini-nostalgia template, a player has three treasury zones. If the opponent isn't demonstrating particularly strong play, it's reasonable to assume that one of them is either uncleared or only just being explored. But portaling home while having an imp with 1000+ and money for buyouts is indeed a strictly negative move.
Hey, where did you come from, girl? What does a ban have to do with it? What are these illogical moves you're talking about? If you had written a month earlier, I would have sent you hundreds of them, I've already cleaned everything up!
Druk, with your logical conclusions, you're already annoying everyone here. I'll find a bunch of illogical moves in your saves and tell AK that you were cheating. Especially since they were SUDDENLY deleted. You started it, not me; look at the date of your registration, and don't spit on the monitor and try to prove that you understand this game better than others. For now, you're just someone's clone, and there's no name for you.
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