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#834
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It turned out to be an interesting Mafia game, although the clues, as in all Mafia games, are too complicated. It's a pity that they poisoned him so early :( the defense didn't work... Thanks to everyone :)
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!
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First, I'll share my thoughts about the game as a whole – the atmosphere, in my opinion, was quite familiar to many. At least for me, "Kish" is like an audio cassette that I once copied from a friend in my childhood. I also remember the funny time when we were obsessed with them – we even sang "Dead Anarchist" together as a group on the way to camp once. People were a bit scared, but it didn't matter. So, that's a plus. I have no complaints about the roles; it was a perfectly normal set. As for the downsides of the setting, I would mention the drawn-out process, especially towards the end of the game, when there didn't seem to be many remaining players, but we had to wait for two days to finally finish. This also killed the excitement. There was also a lot of randomness, but that seems to be traditional. The funniest thing is that the only person we "executed" based on clues was Gur; we let everyone else go. I was satisfied with my role, although I was initially disappointed that I wasn't a serial killer :smile08:. But as it turned out, it was a useful and very random role :smile36:.
I'll just mention the scoundrel Lizard, who tried to do something nasty to me for two days in a row, and then saved me.
It's a pity that I couldn't "burn" the scoundrel Khos -_- But never mind, we'll settle the score later. Then there were some random events... The only thing I remember is that I guessed that the note about cacti was Magnus's doing, and I exposed him in the chat. Then, this devil's ability helped me with the Werewolf – I knew that the serial killer's note was from her. I guessed the clue about the Joker, but it was too late >< but whatever. The main thing is that our sweet little vampire, in search of protein and carbohydrates, attacked the unappetizing me ^_^. But I didn't know about Ellina; I thought that the ink blocked her on the night of the poisoning (which was the case, so what the hell was that?). So, I directed the attention to Tolik and accidentally saved a fake. But Ney was also great; she finished my job :smile08:. Thank you for the game!

За всем следят машины благодати и любви.
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#836
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It blocked him with ink on the night of the poisoning (that's how it was, so why then...)

You need to read more carefully. Poisoning cannot be blocked or protected against.

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#838
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I enjoyed the game. I was happy to get the role of the killer; a "maniac" with such abilities is awesome.
I think the biggest drawback of this game isn't the difficult clues, the complicated rules, or the over-discussion of the topic, but the executions, including my own. If I had been executed in the middle of the game, I might have been able to somehow defend myself, but realizing that execution was inevitable, I didn't even try to resist.
From the very beginning, I wanted to find the killer and the mafia members so that I could have ghouls with the ability to kill. I found them, but Naira ruined everything, although Toria was still hanged in the end. I was upset that I lost a life because of a musketeer. =( (damn, I'm tired of these requests from players to come and protect them, and protectors actually do come, but what if the mafia starts asking for the same?) I was afraid until the end of the game that someone would kill me. Luckily, I recruited a doctor, and he did save me from death once. I was also scared when Crabby guessed the first clue about me; I thought that was it, I'd be hanged, but no, they didn't listen to him)), and I think the clue was quite easy. And still, I'm sad that I didn't win, because victory was so close. Who knows, maybe if I hadn't missed one night, I would be celebrating the win now. Thanks to everyone for the game ;)
P.S.: Argh, and I never went to Naira :smile24: even though I wanted to
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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#839
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Well, the Mafia game is finally over... it started around May 11th and ended on June 3rd... quite a long run. It's a shame that we had to wait so long for the newspapers, but I guess that's a minor issue compared to other things... To be honest, I think the biggest problem was the clues. I generally agree with Loken's point of view, but I still want to explain my reasoning, because making unsubstantiated claims isn't very convincing, and having arguments will help avoid similar situations in the future... I'll start with something I really liked:
The first lines from "The Puppet of the Sorcerer" - "Dark, gloomy corridor, I tiptoe like a thief, barely breathing, trying not to scare anything.
A thief named Morning tiptoes through the dark and gloomy corridor.
I admit that, as someone not very familiar with this work, it's quite difficult to see the connection. I understand that the Mafia game is based on "Koroli i Shut" (Kings and Jesters), but I think that such references would be more appropriate on fan sites, where there are people who know the entire discography, can memorize all the lyrics, and can recite an entire album from memory if woken up in the middle of the night. Moreover, I understand if a clue is used in the title, but in the text... it blends in with it. I didn't realize it was a clue until later, just like I didn't realize the rose bushes in the garden were a clue...
PMN – “Anti-Personnel Pressure Mine,” also known as “Black Widow,” see the role of Vervolki. If you know how to search beyond Wikipedia, you can find it relatively easily.
I searched beyond Wikipedia and found this: http://www.velmash.com/pmn-30.html http://remitek.ru/goods_PMN700.htm http://nvaelektro.ru/produce/PMH/ Which of these devices is the "Black Widow"?
Cthulhu is also a "boss" in the game "The Witcher."
Yes, that's exactly what everyone thought of immediately. And there are birch trees in "The Witcher" too: why not use a clue like "birch leaf"? But if we're not going to be overly literal, I think it would have been better to use a more relevant clue for "The Witcher"...
"You can try to connect the rake with an axe."
I don't want to comment on this.
The Necromancer was saved by the rules, which require players to first cancel their previous vote and then submit a new one.
What a delicate situation. I don't know everything, but it seems strange that the same "Ta Ko" that was on the forum on May 16th was only "killed" on May 22nd, although her last "ND" (presumably "no death" or "no discussion") was only on the newspaper from May 19th, meaning that at least the 18th was sent, and there are enough days between the 18th and the 22nd, rather than the stated 2 days.
For the first solved clue, so I disguised the second one – bruises – hematomas – bumps.
I won't comment on this connection either... In conclusion: they were "hanging" people based on the Barbarians (although, this is a typical situation for many Mafia games) and based on the announcements. The townspeople didn't seem interested in solving the clues from the very beginning: what else explains the 200-post-long flood? But the lack of interest continued... I was surprised that in just a few hours, I got 5 out of 7 votes for someone's death, and they were "hanged" just like that, or rather, not just like that, but the running maniacs, ghouls, and Mafia members did their dirty work. However, the Mafia game also had some positive aspects: the townspeople were impressive in the last few days, dealing with everyone. The setting was interesting, but it's quite difficult to survive in it without knowing what's what.
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By the way, I mentioned the broken link earlier, but only from Wikipedia... but I still couldn't find a working one. ><
And in general, it would be better to make the snail puzzles even easier, because the confusion discourages people from wanting to play...

За всем следят машины благодати и любви.
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#841
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The main thing is that afterwards, the mapmakers don't complain that the clues are too easy.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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#842
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Nebo
The main thing is that the Mafia doesn't complain later that the clues are too easy.

I would say that there were too few Mafia members:cool:.
It was definitely a mistake that we didn't figure things out with the notes. But overall, it would have been funny if all the Mafia members had been eliminated on the 3rd day.
Ты страшился тысячи вещей... Но все это были лишь маски, лишь видимости. На самом деле страшило тебя только одно решиться сделать шаг в неизвестное, маленький шаг через все существующие предосторожности. И кто хоть один раз оказывал великое доверие, полагался на судьбу, тот обретал свободу.
Мы не свободные, вольно танцующие автобусы. Мы – привязанные троллейбусы и трамваи
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#843
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I think everyone probably feels that the clues are very easy to find for him, but difficult for others. I could have easily been executed after the first murder with arson, based on the clue about the artist Cranach. I even found an explanation for the hyphen in Cran-ach: at that time, I had a nickname that was divided into two parts: Were-volka. In short, I would have executed myself immediately for such clues. Then, the second murder – the killer takes a flute from the victim. Well, that's just funny – I have a girl with a flute in my avatar (or so it seems), and there was even a debate in one of the threads – is it a flute or not. It doesn't matter that it turned out to be a flute – it could easily have been used as a clue for the jester, and they could have easily pinned the crime on me. As for the connection – the rake – the axe, I'm not so sure, and nowhere does it say that the maniac is armed with an axe. So, I didn't even realize that I had been cursed.
I agree with Magnus that few people know the lyrics of the songs by heart. For example, I haven't even listened to Kino once (even out of curiosity, as I didn't feel like it).
P.S. – yes, there was a real joke with my note. Who knew that on that day it would be the only one???!!
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#844
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crabby
Morning, first, you need to achieve something!
:smile30:
You can try to associate a rake with an axe.
An image of a maniac with a stiletto.
With the sharp blade of an AXE, he grants the gravedigger immortality.
A sharp blade of an AXE pierces the neck of the Forester.
With the sharp blade of an AXE, a figure in a cloak cuts off a piece of bread and a slice of cheese.

Uh, here's something else I wanted to ask: why count the number of posts by players each night? Does it have any meaning?
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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#845
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Thanks to everyone for the game!!
It's a pity that Werewolf killed me because I correctly gathered evidence against her (but at least the random draw determined that Morning survived because Man killed first), but as I later realized, it's not customary to eliminate someone after the first night in Werewolf.
I read everything during the game and tried to figure things out together with Ellina; many things were clear, but many clues were complex, although I was surprised that
instead of Werewolf, her partner was eliminated. :)
And Neira is so resilient :) they tried to kill her 2-3 times, but she survived every time. :)
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#846
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Neyra is really tough. They tried to kill her 2-3 times, but she always survived.

a guardian angel protects;
Does this make any sense?
I think it's for the "activity" chart.
P.S. Yes, I'm K.O.

Be strong. Believe
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#847
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Thanks for the game! Although, somewhere around the middle, I started to feel a bit lazy, I guess. I forgot/didn't have time to send the Night Defense two nights in a row, and I also wanted to write a note, but then I gave up.
We're looking forward to the next one.
Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made
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#848
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I think I've figured most things out, but the last part remains a mystery and keeps bothering me:
The "iron shoulder" simultaneously hints at a musketeer. The clue is as obvious as a speech error – "a flying arrow pierces the shoulder." A flying arrow is the Native American leader Tecumseh; the text mentions a curse – see the "Tecumseh's Curse" page on the wiki. A quote from the Sky's signature is, "Bush, are you feeling alright?" Someone mentioned this in one of the games' chat rooms.
What does this mean? How is the curse on American presidents related to a pine cone? Do Native Americans live in the forest? Or does the article mention George Bush, and the Sky's signature says "bush"? Am I missing an important link in my reasoning – someone's post in one of the games' "general discussion" sections? Tell me about the post that is so important to the game. Is it some kind of Arandor's dream? How does the "iron shoulder" hint at a musketeer? Is the musketeer always ready to offer his brave shoulder to someone in need? Is his bicep as hard as iron? I got a C- in Russian; where is the speech error in the phrase "a flying arrow pierces the shoulder"?

I really want to fill this blank spot in the diagram.
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Bump. I'm waiting for clarification.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.