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Posts from Appeals Committee. Disputed situations in tournaments.
Please pay attention, AK. The following situation has arisen in the team tournament: /topic/at/370650/
I would greatly appreciate it if you could investigate and make a decision.
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes: Лидер клана "Из многих единое" Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
Dear AK. I kindly request that you consider adding the following clause to the rules of online games: all participants in novice tournaments must be informed about your existence and their ability to contact you in controversial situations in the tournament thread before the tournament begins. Most of them simply don't know about it because they are new to the game. If you think that they don't need to know about you, please state that.
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!
Dear Arbitration Committee. I ask you to consider the possibility of adding the following clause to the rules of online games: all participants in novice tournaments must be informed in the tournament topic about your existence and their ability to contact you in controversial situations before the tournament begins. Most of them simply don't know about it because they are new players. If you think that they don't need to know about you, just write it.
Write here, and in my tournament, your tables look, to put it mildly, not quite right. It's not clear at all what they are for. And the signature also stretches the page.
On the topic.
The "Novice" regulations clearly state that they should contact me with all problems, and I can contact the Arbitration Committee for help if necessary (and I sometimes do). I can write:
"If you are not satisfied with the decision of the tournament organizer, you can appeal to the Arbitration Committee" and provide a link to them.
Would that be okay? :) Bureaucrats, damn it.
Please do not write off-topic in the tournament topic anymore
Hermit - Volodya, if any newcomer wants to, they will quickly and easily find any information they need, and if they don't need it themselves, then there's no need to go into too much detail. IMHO.
Dear AK. I ask you to consider the possibility of adding the following clause to the rules of online games: all participants in novice tournaments must be informed about your existence and their ability to contact you in controversial situations before the start of the tournament. Most of them simply don't know this because they are new players. If you think that it is not necessary for them to know about you, then just write so.
I support what Vladimir said. This information would be useful.
Vitya, it is also normal that you are willing to resolve controversial situations yourself. It’s just that a phrase like the one in your first post of the tournament is not very clear (quote): "in certain cases, I reserve the right to involve or not involve the AK (HeroesWorld Appeals Committee), as well as competent and authoritative online players."
It would be better to state that Tournament Players can contact either you or the AK directly; the current wording could be interpreted as meaning that only you have the right to appeal to the AK, not the Tournament Player.
Added after 7 minutes Ta Kotoraya...
AK, please pay attention. In the team tournament, the following situation arose /topic/at/370650/
A huge request: investigate and make a decision.
The AK has begun investigating this game. The AK's decision will be announced as soon as possible.
The Arbitration Committee has begun reviewing this case. The Arbitration Committee's decision will be announced as soon as possible.
I sincerely hope for another fair decision from the Arbitration Committee on this matter. To be honest, I will be very disappointed if it does not align with my opinion on this issue, but if it does, I will be happy (my opinion was formed 100% after a very long period of deliberation and analysis of the save files).
Hermit - Volodya, if any newcomer wants to, they will quickly and easily find any information they need, and if they don't need it themselves, then there's no need to go into detail. IMHO.
Let's hope so. But I remember the case with maxlewis, and it seems to me that he didn't know about the Arbitration Committee at all, and if he had known, he would definitely have contacted them. But, IMHO, informing each participant of the Tournament would not be superfluous, because you also need to take into account the psychology of many newcomers, who, coming to the resource for the first time, in the event of a controversial situation, simply will not go to any higher authorities than the organizer and will not try to find out about them, even if they believe that they have been treated unfairly. Just out of politeness, to behave modestly like guests and not "make a fuss"... Although there is nothing wrong with them contacting the Arbitration Committee. And why my message had to be deleted, I don't understand, because it didn't contain any violations of the forum rules. Yes, maybe sometimes it's just laziness and they just give up...
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!
I agree with Vladimir. This information will be useful.
Vitya, it's also perfectly normal that you are willing to resolve disputes yourself. It's just that the phrase in your first post about the Tournaments isn't very clear (see quote): "in certain cases, I reserve the right to involve or not involve the Appeals Committee (HeroesWorld), as well as competent and reputable online players."
It would be more accurate to state that Tournament Players can contact either you or the Appeals Committee directly; the current wording could be interpreted as meaning that only you, and not the Tournament Player, has the right to contact the Appeals Committee.
I've said this before, and I'm saying it again, and I'll probably have to repeat it many more times. The current wording should not just be "possibly" interpreted this way, but must be interpreted this way: for all questions and misunderstandings, players in this tournament should contact me, and not wherever they feel like it. I am against them contacting the Appeals Committee without my knowledge. I consider myself to be sufficiently reasonable and competent to resolve minor disputes, suspicions, and answer questions about the game. If I have any doubts, of course, I will contact you. It's not normal that I "am willing to resolve disputes myself." It's normal that I resolve them.
A little off-topic. I'm aware of V.'s issue. When did he contact you? Two weeks ago? Three? Did you even look at the saves from that time? The guy is upset, says he's going to leave the forum, and no one seems to care. I understand that you're busy, you have work, it's hard to get together, etc., I'm not saying anything. But I don't have time to wait 3 weeks – the tournament started yesterday, and there are people who have already played 2 rounds.
In short, I am the organizer, judge, and highest authority in this tournament. I create the rules, make the draws, and resolve disputes. In the tournament thread, only reports and posts from the organizer are not considered off-topic; I have the right to delete everything else as off-topic. If you don't like it, create your own tournaments and run them
It's not about me "being ready to resolve controversial situations myself." It's about me actually resolving them.
Do you even understand what you're saying? Do you think you're inherently smarter than the entire moderation team of 7 people? Hmm, Viktor has really gotten carried away... I would remove him from the mod team, at least temporarily, to cure his inflated ego.
Do you even understand what you said? Do you think you're inherently smarter than everyone else in the modding team of 7 people? Hmm, Viktor really got carried away... I would kick him out of the modders, at least temporarily, to cure his inflated ego.
Watch your language, or you'll get banned again for no reason.
Do you even understand what you said? Do you think you're inherently smarter than everyone else in the AC (Administration Council) of 7 people? Hmm, Viktor really got worked up... I would kick him out of the mod team, at least, to cure his star-struck ego.
What does star-struck ego have to do with it? The position is very correct. What's wrong with a person handling everything they can on their own, but also acknowledging that there might be situations where they need to turn to the AC for help?
In short, Valentina gets another "oh-oh-oh" (s) from Sam-56:smile42: ...
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)
Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
Do you even understand what you said? Do you think you're inherently smarter than everyone else in the team of 7? Hmm, Viktor really got carried away... I would kick him out of the modders, at least, to cure his star sickness.
There are some good fables by Krylov: "The Swan, the Crab, and the Pike," "The Quartet" - I advise you to read them and think about them.
Ta Kotoraya...
