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In the actual game, I messed up that final :(
Just tell us who you were playing as, you psychic! :D
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We played again – Tazar dominated once more. I suggested switching roles, and the Vampires survived everyone. Thanks for the final battles, Valentin!
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We played again – Tazar dominated once more.
I suggested switching roles, and the vampires outlived everyone else. :)

Thanks for the final matches, Valentin!
I was a bit rushed – the last game lasted about 30 rounds, with the remaining 60 mana out of 380 being used by Gosha. However, I still think that with the right strategy, Gosha can definitely win – it was roughly applied against me in the last battle. If Andrei hadn't made a gross mistake by exploding 50+ Storms instead of 26 Ducks, the battle could have ended much earlier.
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If it weren't for Andrei's blunder when he destroyed 50+ Storms instead of 26 Ducks, the battle could have ended much sooner.

Vampires won't drain blood from Storms :smile24:
I thought you understood why I left exactly Ducks ;)

But there is also a countermeasure against this tactic that I used in the last final...
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If you do it again, at least stream it.
If you don't stream it, at least record it.
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Neoandy


By the way, how did it actually go in the real game?
In reality, I first managed to defeat Tazaru with this army, and then somehow managed to hold out against the Inferno's reinforcements. Yes, Ivan FB didn't play very well...
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All three finals were very interesting, especially the last one. Valentine and I both regretted at the end that no one saw it.

There's no point in playing the same scenario again for the 4th time. But if anyone from the real final wants to – I can play for any side with a broadcast and will try to win :)

Has anyone looked at my save? There's a very interesting situation there too. I'm waiting for comments!
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I checked out your save, and I'm ready to play as the one sitting in the Castle :D Regarding my own save, we can play that too; I still want to get a rematch :) (If it works out, of course :D)
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I checked out your save, and I'm ready to play as the one sitting in the Castle :D

Regarding my own save, we can also play it; I still want to get a rematch :)

(If it's possible, of course :D)

Who on the screenshots was playing as Gosha? It was very weak... With the right strategy, the advantage isn't that significant.
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Gunnar - Iona The Vivs decide. Without morals, Gunnar easily wins. Added 22 minutes later And in the field, it's also ambiguous; the Vivs have morale, and Gunnar has good chances.
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Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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I watched the Galtaran vs. Tazar battle from the first post. As someone with extensive experience judging arena-style battles, I can say the following: If we consider this battle as an "arena," meaning a single battle with no opportunity to retreat at a convenient moment, then the battle looks like this: 1. Tazar has a very significant advantage in stats. 2. The units are roughly equal in strength. 3. Galtaran has significantly more mana. With this setup, Tazar is obligated to win the battle quickly, while Galtaran, on the contrary, should prolong it into a magical battle, where he has the advantage. That is, Tazar is forced to attack, while Galtaran carefully defends and brings the battle to the endgame. Galtaran's endgame looks like this: elementals participate in the battle, and they all have vulnerabilities and immunities to varying degrees. For example, Galtaran's earth elementals are immune to both lightning and Armageddon, but vulnerable to Shiver (which Tazar doesn't have). And water elementals, on the contrary, are vulnerable to Armageddon and fire spells like Inferno. By summoning a couple of stacks of earth elementals and casting Shield on them, he simply stands and casts Armageddon. No water elementals are scary to us. That is, the endgame is very strong; all that remains is to bring the battle to it: 1. Implement careful defense. 2. Eliminate Tazar's stacks that are immune to Armageddon (phoenixes, fire elementals, magma elementals). 3. Armageddon. However, this tactic is questionable in an online battle, as you always need to keep a thick stack alive. That is, you will have to cast Antimagic on the thickest stack. Although, everything is possible; it needs to be tested. P.S. I tested it a couple of times. Tazar doesn't have direct damage spells, which makes it easy to keep Galtaran's thick stack alive. And such a maneuver as Tazar retreating or buying himself out is not scary for him.
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Antoshka
watched the Galtaran vs. Tazar battle from the first post.
As someone with extensive experience judging arena-style battles, I can say the following:

As practice has shown (Tazar won the first battle, followed by two draws), with proper play from both sides, the battle boils down to a magical endgame, where a mistake by either side sends the main heroes back to the taverns. The magical endgame is also not straightforward; Galtaran summons many earth elementals, but in our last battle, there were very few left - unfortunately, no one saw it :(
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Neoandy
Who played as Gosh in the screenshots? It seems very weak... With proper gameplay, the advantage isn't very significant.

I played as Galtran in the screenshot – and I won! :cool:

The battle was also quite interesting. We played for about 50 minutes.
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Everyone has lost interest in the topic. But I still suggest recording the final matches and uploading them to YouTube. And then, it would be interesting to post them here!
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I'll upload a couple of final versions soon, you'll be amazed!