Posts from Club championship of the CIS countries (final).

Respect to all participants in the tournament, and congratulations to the winner! Well done, guys (it's a pity there weren't many broadcasts). By the way, a question: why was the Pit-Vitalik match replayed? The viewers in Mikogo didn't quite understand that moment... There was no restart in the match, nor a red rush... Please clarify this point ;)

Let's assume that the final scores are correct.
Buchholz score (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Коэффициент_Бухгольца):
Roland: 1 (Wowa) + 2 (Pit) + 2 (Stinger) + 4 (Bayazet) = 9
Vitalik: 4 (Bayazet) + 0.5 (Aldegir) + 1 (Lexa) + 2 (Pit) = 7.5
Medium: 1 (Napalm) + 1 (Lexa) + 4 (Bayazet) + 2 (Stinger) = 8
Mee: 1 (Merlin) + 4 (Bayazet) + 1 (Alone) + 2 (Preds) = 8

Total (counting winners based on Buchholz score):
2. Roland
3-4. Medium, Mee
5. Vitalik
It seems Vic was mistaken, thinking that everyone had the same Buchholz score. Question for VIC: there's nothing in the regulations that says that if the scores are equal, the winners will be determined by the Buchholz score. So, why did you calculate it?

P.S. Heartfelt congratulations to Dima-Roland, I'm sincerely glad he took second place, it's a pity he didn't take first, because I was rooting for him the most.
Bayazet deserves mega-respect! Alexey is a true champion of the CIS and the strongest hero player of our time! I'm glad he proved it with his actions!

It is incorrect to calculate the Buchholz score when the number of games played is not the same. When performing calculations with artificial pairings and virtual results, it turns out that Wic calculated everything quite accurately.

Yes, Samurai - numbers are not your strong suit :)
you forgot about Aldegir's two games toward Vitalik's points, Lekha's game toward Medium and 2 games (Alone and Merlin) toward Mee. If you recount everything once more (using Wikipedia and of course a calculator), you'll understand everything ;)

And there is no need to overcomplicate things here. We have identified the strongest and luckiest, and I believe any of the players can rightfully claim 2nd place.

Roland played strongly... but he was very secretive, even switching screens quite often so that people wouldn't watch his game too closely :), but I managed to follow his play. His composure, calmness, and precision of action were astounding.

Medium. The Duke from the Heroes Portal. A well-deserved title earned in offline and online Tournaments. He knows a great deal. Like Roland, he is very calm (others often had "oh I forgot this," "oh I didn't do that") - Medium and Rol didn't have such outbursts :)

Mee. Proved that the Yekaterinburg school (where guys play on their own—without hundreds of players from World or Portal) is very well developed.

Vitalik. I've already written about Him. I think he has proven his skill and it's time to consider removing his CMCH. Moreover, he has started broadcasting his games via Mikogo; I recommend everyone watch them.

Pit. Until Vic arrives, I'll report what they decided regarding the last game between Pit and Vitalik. They had some kind of rest per encounter... controversial... but everyone decided that if the opponents agree, there is no problem. In general, there were many noble gestures in this tournament—autos and rests were often given, concessions were made. There was an atmosphere of gaming, not a desire to just get a result.
The last game Pit-Vitalik. Pit had to run for a train—I'm still worried whether he made it—so they decided either to save and continue over the internet or by award. The opponents chose the award. At the start of the 3rd week, Pit had 12 angels. And Vitalik is standing in a treasure zone a couple of cells away from Pandora for the entire 4th level. Later, as the autopsy showed, Vitalik took full control. Pit had the opportunity to either capture Vitalik's Castle or go into treasure zones—there are 3 Dragon Utopia in a row—but all on parameters, no control at all, resources exchanged for gold, ГГ doesn't even have starting wisdom, and even if a tower were built, only one of all castles has TP. Vic spent a long time scouring the map, analyzing, and decided to award the victory to Vitalik.

In the first round, the draw pitted me against Aldegir. The game itself was all great: gold, stats, but control just wouldn't come. I had Town Portal from the main hero, but no earth magic. Oleg didn't have much gold, but he had control, along with the Boots of Speed. I chased him a bit unsuccessfully, and since rebuilding didn't help, I set off in search of the coveted spells. Only on the seventh Dragon Utopia did I get wings, and before that there were three draw offers. Since it was late, I decided to agree, somehow thinking that for five rounds it wouldn't be critical. As it turned out, we only played 4 rounds in total, and we had knocked each other out back in the first round: ( . It would have been better if there had been a forced win and one of us had continued the fight.
In the second game against Vova, we scratched the info for Castle, but I never managed to feel the advantage of the red devils; in about 8-10 attempts, accounting for rests, levels, and blocks, I was on top only twice, and only once was there an external dwelling of imps. In the map generation without external dwellings, the path to the village was exactly 7 days; from the lookout tower, with 4 movement points, it wasn't visible. In short, I holed up in my area, fortunately there was a Dragon Fly Hive and a Dragon Utopia, which gave me them. But by that moment, Valya had arrived with full control on Archangels and had taken all the castles. When I had mana left for only one Dimension Door, there was nowhere special to run. I decided not to continue.

The third game against Napalm was Blue Swamp on Dungeon. We played for pleasure without any motivation, maybe that's why the game turned out splendidly, especially the finale, which took place under the motto "kill Tazar!" :p We started almost from the first generation; I had 2 external dwellings of Gnolls near the castle, a Dragon Utopia on respawn, and Tazar in the tavern. There was someone and something to fight with, so two main heroes leveled up in different directions, exchanging armies. Both got the Boots of Speed, which was super; Taz got earth magic, Bronh got water.
On the second month, after breaking through passages, around day 125 I noticed the blue player, but didn't make contact; I was afraid of guessing the wrong direction, and there were only 14 Dragon Flies total, while at home 2 Griffin Conservatories and 2 Dragon Utopias awaited. I return the army to Taz, he takes a third-level dwelling; Bronh takes a first-level dwelling at the computer's respawn. Another Dragon Fly Hive, and Taz with expert earth magic on days 132 and 134 breaks two third-level dwellings, giving everything needed except Town Portal.
Scouting the directions towards the blue player showed that the roads were indeed very long and without Town Portal it would be hard to capture/control. I spent a lot of time on construction and rebuilding the mage guild three times; during this time, Shakti successfully grew strong, breaking Dragon Utopias, farmed three external dwellings of devils; there was also an untaken external dwelling of Manticores on respawn and Minotaurs.
When I took Shakti's main town on day 146, I spotted a growth on the artifact. I upgraded the Archangels and cut down a large half of the army, including 15 Minotaurs and 30 Medusas. But Shakti himself was nowhere to be seen. I continued growing on two fronts; Bronh had 2 Dimension Doors and Town Portal, Taz had 1 Dimension Door and Fly. At one point, with Bronh, right under Sergei's nose, I took a Dragon Utopia and a Pandora's Box with the entire fifth level. If it weren't for the online game, the situation would have looked like maphacking; I really jumped into the dark at the right moment:rolleyes: . I wasn't attacked. In the tavern, my army was heavier, but Shakti had 30 spell power:eek: .
I collected 2 sets of Shackles of War and set out to search the dark corners of the map. I thought a bit about whom exactly to use for the finale – both Bronh and Tazar leveled evenly (levels 20 and 22 respectively), but Taz only had earth magic without resurrection, though he did have Offense, Defense, and Tactics; Bronh had earth, water, fire with Berserker, Defense, but the lack of Offense, on Bayazet's advice, favored Taz, because the blue player's only shooting stack was the Evil Eyes. When Bronh finally got Offense in the last slot, I discovered a stack of Shakti's army with all his power; Tazar was nearby, and I attacked with him specifically.
Taz 15-40-15-15 – both had decent mana, but I had slightly less – writing from memory
14 Archangels, 11 Chaos Hydras, 74 Wyvern Monarchs, 34 Greater Basilisks, 50+ Dragon Flies, 180+ Lizardmen, 380+ Gnolls
Shakti 25-24-30-15
6 Archangels, 11 Devils, 69 Dragon Flies, 30 Scorpicores, 100+ Evil Eyes, 80+ Harpies, 380+ Troglodytes
It's hard to say I had a significant army advantage here, plus I was inferior in magic and spells, so the finale was very interesting, but Napalm had many more advisors and fans on his side:D . By the way, Vitalik gave me a couple of very timely useful tips, and Merlin was confident in Tazar's victory.

In the first round, after waiting out the Archangels and Dragon Flies, I got Berserker on all other stacks except the Lizardmen. But my guys dealt such a funny amount of damage to each other:) . In response, I cast Anti-Magic on the Hydras and moved them and the Wyverns forward.
In the second round, Implosion left me with 5 out of 14 Archangels; I cast Mass Slow and charged in with almost everything, thinning out the army quite nicely over two rounds.
In the third, I cast Anti-Magic on my own Dragon Flies, and Napalm's Implosion took out the remaining Archangels.
But my first move came, and now the Wyverns confidently received Anti-Magic (I myself showed absolute certainty, by both my demeanor and actions, that Dispel was there! and it really was there, but not equipped!:eek: ), I charged in again; only 69 Dragon Flies remained as a full stack; the rest were heavily thinned and, for some reason, frequently lost morale:). My Gnolls were mostly blown up.
After that, from Shakti's side, summons of 120 Fire Elementals began; I killed all remaining living forces on the field with Armageddon and attacked the ever-spawning Fire Elementals with fist and Implosion.
At some point, the tactic changed a bit, and Sergei resurrected the Evil Eyes over 2 rounds, then sacrificed them; now I was facing 69 Dragon Flies and three stacks of Fire Elementals. I had 70 Wyvern Monarchs and 2 Wyvern stacks. I cast Slow on them; Napalm cast Anti-Magic on his own Dragon Flies and summoned more and more Fire Elementals... I saw the battle was no longer equal; I cast Slow again on the Fire Elementals and, on the wait turn, engaged the Dragon Flies, which were now a dozen stronger.
But in the end, Poison saved me; because of it, the Dragon Flies had 60 HP instead of 99, then 50... In the end, 15 Wyvern Monarchs remained against two stacks of Fire Elementals of about 80 each; Sergei's mana thankfully ran out, while I still had enough for 4 Water Elementals:) . 14 Wyvern Monarchs survived.

Overall, the game took 2 game days. There was no time or anyone left to play the fourth round.

I consider the tournament itself a success. Even though the cultural program didn't happen as planned, the winner was determined on time, completely undeniably, and absolutely deservedly. Congratulations to Bayazet!!!
For the future, of course, 4 days are too few; there were many small situations and details that dragged out the pace of the tournament. Optimal would be one day per round plus one day for the cultural program, say, in the middle of the tournament. Many people arrived early anyway, and some left the next day, meaning the opportunity can always be found if desired.

Thank you all for the games and the company!

Video of our heroes:
http://rapidshare.com/files/385182575/P1000182.MOV.html
(here is a 100 MB file – about 1 minute and a few seconds)

another video, but compressed to 8 MB:
http://file.qip.ru/file/128359323/1257d1e4/P1000182_xvid.html

you can read part of the reports here:
http://heroesportal.net/tavern/?id=292705&pagenum=2

Here's a (censored) anecdote:smile15:

But when Napalm and I came to my apartment to pick up my things, we found Artem in a disheveled state and completely content.:D

The promised reports are here: http://www.forum.heroes.by/viewtopic.php?t=847&start=30.

Let's assume that the final scores are correct.
Buchholz (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Коэффициент_Бухгольца):
Roland: 1 (Wowa) + 2 (Pit) + 2 (Stinger) + 4 (Bayazet) = 9
Vitalik: 4 (Bayazet) + 0.5 (Aldegir) + 1 (Lexa) + 2 (Pit) = 7.5
Medium: 1 (Napalm) + 1 (Lexa) + 4 (Bayazet) + 2 (Stinger) = 8
Mee: 1 (Merlin) + 4 (Bayazet) + 1 (Alone) + 2 (Preds) = 8

When calculating the Buchholz score, it is assumed that unplayed games (except for technical draws) ended in a draw. Therefore, for example, players with a score of 1(3) give their opponents not 1 Buchholz point, but 1.5.

Question to VIK: it seems that the regulations do not state anywhere that in case of a tie in points, the winners will be determined by the Buchholz score. Why did you calculate it then?

I quote the regulations:

In case of a tie in points, the sum of the opponents' scores will be compared. If there is a tie, the sum of the scores of the opponents who were defeated will be compared. If there is a tie, the head-to-head result will be considered. If there is no such result or a draw, an additional game will be played on TC3.

By the way, a question: why was the Pit-Vitalik game replayed? The viewers in Mikogo didn't understand this moment... There was no restart in the match, nor a red rush... Please clarify this moment.

They decided to replay the game by mutual agreement.

I'll try to "hammer out" a final report on the Finals now, and may the Kyiv Archangel help me with this :) .

I arrived just in time for the beginning, on Friday around 10 am. I ran into Sam on the way out of the subway, and at the cafe near the club, I found a whole bunch of old-timers:rolleyes: (although, only Pete and Vic came out well in the photo).

We went on a tour of the apartments of the Yeburg residents (a 4-room Stalin-era apartment with a fireplace in the very center!:eek: ), met the legendary brothers who created WT - asm and Mee,

and also the no less legendary guy from St. Petersburg, Napalm

and other mega-stars of the Heroes scene; Merlin turned out to be particularly bright, and he personally reminded me of the Necromancer from Diablo 2; he had everything on point: jokes and curses:D .


The 1st round began, and in this photo, as Captain said, "everyone looks like they're about to fight someone" (apparently, Kostyan is a bad photographer:smile39: ), but in reality, they're just waiting for the results of the draw :) .

As I already wrote, everyone was playing all sorts of elaborate Heroes 3 + U combinations, except for Stinger and Neoendi on Jebus, for which I give them a separate fan's thank you ;) ! And here is an illustrative example of what happens when you use such oversized templates
- they just get caught when rushing! (even if it's not the opponent's hero, but just the photographer :) ).
In the evening, we went out to drink and play poker, for those who know how.
And then we went home; our apartment turned out to be not bad either:cool: , although we were six people crammed into a 2-room apartment (Bayazet, Leha, Roland, Medium, Neo, and I), here's the view from our balcony
- chestnut trees are blooming, a symbol of Kyiv, what a beauty!

In the 2nd round, a suspicious trend of switching to the Cove map began:D (and what did I say - the template isn't that bad :) ), although in principle, each participant was versatile and ready to play anything, including the Portal players Neo and Alone.

Vitalik arrived, but something didn't work out for him on Jebus...

The future champion, Bayazet, started off strong - 2 out of 2 in one day!!!:eek:

An interesting and even somewhat unique situation arose between Napalm and Neoendi: Andrey gave People to Sergey on the Black map, forgetting that, as chess players say, "in the variations" there, Archdevils rule:D - as a result, his mega-Tank was simply outmatched by Marius, a hero with 30 spell power, even despite the Amulet of Nullification when the Tank tried to attack Marius, the first one lost a dozen units and was left with nothing, and the Demon simply bought himself off with his faithful Archdevil - as a result, they decided to settle this in poker :) .

Luck smiled on Napalm.

Part#2.
On the 3rd day, I personally remembered the game =Stinger= - Roland from Gilead. Both are experienced TE players, but leaning towards SoD gameplay, so they played TE-lite SMK;) . There were just tons of daddy moments, nuances in the game: GO from grey bears on 127 - from Roland (1 external dwelling of caps, Griffin Conservatories for 6 angels, oil), a barrier of scout heroes in the path of the enemy daddy - a trick from Stinger, and also a tactic I had long suspected but never encountered in an actual game - knocking the enemy main hero out of his charge at the city gates by attacking with a stray scout hero, again by Stinger.

In general, a couple of nuances decided the outcome:) : 1 move (Artyom thought - even calculated, more precisely! - that Dimа's Gunnar wouldn't reach the castle), color (red Crag couldn't replenish mana at the night stop - and that with the Book of Earth!:eek: ) and - attention all "tactics-hating" newcomers!:D - TACTICS, which Gunnar had and Crag didn't:p (Dimon, as it happens, builds impenetrable barricades in the finals:cool: .

In short, respect to Roland, what can I say!.. Even though Stinger played just insanely strong! And made the impression of being, like, the most intelligent, well, for some reason...
There was also a benefit performance by Piterius,

who overcame the stubborn Napalm: the battle turned out truly Epic!:smile12: :smile12: :smile12: A detailed report was somewhere - I'll give the link later:).
It wasn't particularly lucky for, certainly not the least, the namesake hero players of today: the experienced veteran Wowa

and the winner of the last major tournament on TK3 - Volodimyr
.
The last of the present Ukrainian three bogatyrs of H3 dropped out of the championship fight -

Medium:(
,
the fight with Bayazet was the toughest, I decided to follow Alexey's actions and didn't regret it, despite the fact that it was essentially TE-full with experience etc., in the end the namesake from Simferopol couldn't oppose anything even with 15 angels to the "cheat"-leveled lower tier units of Lyokha from St. Petersburg, 160 butterflies seemed to take out 4 guys outright:D. But the chains the champion had were truly champion-worthy - I tell you!:smile12: :smile47: :smile41:.
Unfortunately, my true buddy Preds couldn't break into the fight, you just don't find guys like that every day, really.

And Lexa, winner of Michurinsk, switched over to Counter-Strike over time, although according to him he didn't have any particular ambitions either
.
By the end of the day, it turned out that Heroes is contagious, and even the younger generation doesn't just play all kinds of rubbish:).


On the morning of the 4th day, I said: "It turns out two finalists live in our apartment, apparently its aura is that positive:)" - to which Bayazet replied: "Such an aura here that they don't play poker.":D It's just that we didn't have a suitable table - otherwise we would've, just like here...:smile26:


There were few games left, since motivation was at zero for many, unfortunately:( . But Pit for LM fought knightly and nobly to the very end, so to speak, with a spark in his eyes:smile12: !

Roland, having received, frankly speaking, the most disagreeable layout, tried jokingly to avoid finishing, but Bayazet was adamant, he swore by the gods - I saw the meaning of this mysterious word firsthand;) , to take Gunnison against Shakti, on essentially SoD, which he hadn't played for god knows how many years and work absolute miracles - now that's a skill above all skills. For example, how do you like this, a not particularly leveled Gunnar, without even expert Artillery yet, on 116 with 6 birds, 11 gr. wolves and up to 20 gr. peasants kills 48 (!!!) gold golems, surviving with 4 birds, although many at the start of the battle thought it was a throw:smile34: . As a result, at the start of 117, Lyokha's main hero has 30 mana for Mass Earth with everything useful in the book and expert Armorer, and on the horizon are Conservatories and other goodies...:rolleyes: Then came the 2nd Conservatory and 80+ ice elementals, already mentioned by Sam. And a cunning rush of events, papist style: Bayazet broke through to the respawn, where he sparked the blue guys' movement and stood in a spot so that, if anything, he wouldn't be revealed too early, but at the same time setting a potential trap with the visibility of standing at the charge (1+11 gr. birds) - it was hard to expect oil etc. on 123, it wasn't possible to bring angels, but on the other hand, if they were there, Shakhtyor probably wouldn't have attacked anyway, in short it was something - a mix of intuition and some crazy calculation:smile47: !

Dima took over 5 minutes to arrange, apparently regretting in his soul that he had upgraded all the harpies and didn't separate any to remove the retaliation:mad: , but Lyokha thought over the first move for a total of 10-15 minutes! and was right, winners aren't judged;).

And Roland, like, says "well, is it soon?"

1st cast - Mass Shield (I thought so:cool: !:) ), Roland killed one bird unit, with whoever he could, and Bayazet still decided to peck the Troglodytes - and oh miracle! - the lightning worked, just as Kostyan sitting nearby had "prophesied":D (and I had already prophesied Gunnar without Ballista for him, and an upgraded stack of neutrals - successfully:rolleyes::o ...). In short, luck+skill=WIN!!!
Here he is - the happy Champion of the CIS.


And afterwards, not without regret, having said goodbye to everyone, I got on the train, already dreaming of new qualifiers and finals, no matter where:) .

It seems Semyon will have to take another interview with the CIS champion.

Looks like Sem will have to take another interview with the CIS champion.

We talked for 2 days, I don't think he'll refuse.

We talked for 2 days, I don't think he'll refuse)))

He's already refusing to give autographs:smile05: - it's clear he's suffering from "star disease."

ya nevkuril a gde Bludliker.7

Round 1

Mee(Swamp, Bronhilda, Bronhilda) def MERLIN(Rampart, Ivor, Ivor), 8mm6a, 14x

We were very upset that we had to play against fellow countrymen... we could have skipped the 3000 km trip for this. :)
Well, we played, and in the game, my native treasure hunter turned out to be very strong; he had a black orb that dealt 3700 damage and 9 archdevils. My opponent had nothing to counter this power and surrendered.

Round 2

Bayazet(Necropolis, Galtran, Galtran) def Mee(Inferno, Marius, Marius), 2sm4d(2), 133

I was developing well, started cutting down demons from 113, and by 123, I already had 50 demons and enough resources for 30+ more. Then, a brutal Galtran came from his secondary town and ruined all my plans. I bought as much as I could and went looking for happiness in the treasure hunt. I found a utopia, but it gave me bonuses to numbers, and only control saved me. I surrendered.

Round 3

Mee(Swamp, Bronhilda, Bronhilda) def Alone(Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti), 2sm4d(3), 14x

I managed to get more than my opponent, and in the end, I already had everything, and on top of that, I also caught him off guard.

Round 4

Mee(Swamp, Bronhilda, Bronhilda) def PreDs(Conflux, Moner, Moner), 2sm4d(3), 147

On day 126, Moner breaks the gate and takes my already empty town. In turn, I go looking for happiness with 16 vivas and a little bit of resources, and on day 127, I take a utopia with 24 vivas and very little resources. I have 13 wyverns and that's it! In the utopia, I got bonuses to numbers, but Bronhilda has all the classes: Pathfinder, Swift, Logistics, and Boots on top of that. This gives me 3600 movement points. We run around like crazy and go to the second treasure hunt, which turns out to be good. On day 147, I already have 49 vivas, all the spellbooks, and 49 defense, and I attack Moner, who has an army advantage but very poor hero stats. PreDs surrenders.

Thank you all for the games!

Turn 1
14x

were very outraged that they had to play against fellow countrymen ... we could have skipped flying 3000km for this :)
!

Mee def Alone
Already took an angel on 111 and decided to play. But there was only one secondary, to which (snow) I had to run for 6 (!!!) DAYS. On 121 I took 10k exp and got the speedy class with navigation. Arrived at the opponent's place via off-road with 160 troglodytes and an angel; on 122 captured the ramp. From there into the treasure zone, where I took 3 hives across the sands. Found a portal back to my snow. The opp retook the ramp and broke the chain. On the third [treasure zone] I took a slag Dragon Utopia, 3 off-map angels, and 4 hives... But the "opponent" — the Yekaterinburg team — had a much better distribution, and it was only left to realize the layout, which is what happened.

Thanks for the game)