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OFFLINE Tournament "Knights of Honor"




I've been looking at various online resources for offline tournaments... IMHO, many find them inaccessible due to their complex and hard-to-execute rules, deadlines, and the difficulty of organizing and control... All these rules are necessary to avoid unfairness... I want to propose creating a tournament where fairness is established not by tedious rules, seconds, and judges, but by the Honor and Valor of the players themselves! As they say, We gentlemen take each other's word for it. :) In our case, something else will serve as the "word," but without any saves, game chronologies, or arena creation. Of course, not everyone will be able to play this way—most likely only proven forum members. The most important things in such a tournament are honesty and reliability. There will be no prize, of course, so there will be no incentive to behave dishonestly. It's like a game between two friends who are neighbors:
- Look how many points I scored on this map!
- That's nothing... Look how many I have!
- Wow! Well then, I'll beat the record!

As for the reward—that's up to the administration... Make suggestions on how to arrange it! Here is mine:

A list of players is compiled (only the most honest and fair!), the organizer selects maps, posts them one by one, players complete them and send a screenshot of the results showing the map name, player nick (must match the forum nick, and an identification mark issued by the organizer can be added), and points. Places will be awarded based on points. The system could be like this—for example, 8 players play a map, the 4 best results are chosen, those 4 players play the next map, 2 are chosen, and so on. Use of cheats, programs, and non-personal walkthroughs is prohibited. All this, of course, depends on your conscientiousness! I think using game bugs can be allowed, but then we'll need to agree on the game version—choice of SoD3.2, WoG, TE. Or we could ignore the version, since final points depend on the map and player experience! The point calculation formula shall be known to all: (200-(Days+10)/(N+5)+25+25)*difficulity :
where Days is the number of days, N is the number of towns on the map, difficulity is the difficulty level (easy=0.8, normal=1, hard=1.2 (seemingly), expert=1.6, impossible=2), first +25 points—if all enemies were killed, second +25 points—if the grail was dug up
Maximum 500 points. Something like that.

Waiting for your suggestions! Be honest!

Participant list:
Varg-Nar
Firelord
Qwerty
VDV_forever
fanat
Alex_soldier
Ta Kotoraya...
AlexeyPank
Supreme
UTER

The list continues to form, submit your applications.
Regulations of the first Tournament of Honor.
1. The tournament is conducted in three stages. The duration of each stage is 40 days. After this period, saves will not be accepted for consideration. There will be no exceptions!

2. Each stage involves three task-saves. Thus, the total number of tasks is nine, one for each race. The goal is to score the highest number of points while being guided by the SPIRIT, IDEOLOGY, and Rules of the save walkthrough.

3. Competitive events are held on maps of size M and L, with dungeons (M, L) and without them (L). Thus, 3 map size options are possible: M with dungeon, L without dungeon, L with dungeon. Computer opponents play in a union ("alliance"), their number ranging from 3 to 4 depending on the map's characteristics. The final decision regarding the number of opponents, map sizes, as well as terrain features (specifically water areas, mountains, teleports) is made by the tournament Organizers.

4. At the end of each stage, the participant sends winning saves and a screenshot of the "hall of fame." The winning save is made before the final battle. Winning saves should be named as follows: task number player nick points. For example: 1 vbs 500. In the screenshot name, put scr followed by the same as in the save name. The map should be completed under the nick registered in the tournament. Address for winning saves: [email protected]

5. A player is entitled to send as many winning saves as they managed to complete. Thus, the number of sent saves can be from 1 to 3.

6. It is MANDATORY to save the message sent with the saves until the results are tallied. This is so that in case of email failure, the player can prove they sent the saves BEFORE the deadline.

7. Within a week after the end of each stage, results for each save are tallied.

8. After the third and final stage, general results are tallied. The results of all the player's winning saves are taken into account. Results are tallied by summing the points obtained during the walkthrough of each save. The tournament winner receives the corresponding title.

9. In case two or more participants score the same number of points, the following additional indicators apply:
1) number of days;
2) main hero's experience;
3) sum of main hero's primary skills without artifacts;
4) sum of primary skills with artifacts.

10. In case one or more players score the same number of points in the general standings, the following indicators apply:
1) "countdown" - arithmetic mean between a system fixing first and last places;
2) total number of days to complete all saves.

11. In case of doubts about the honesty of the walkthrough, the player is OBLIGED to provide a detailed report. Arguments such as "every squad had morale every turn," "all computer players entered Utopia one by one and died there," etc., will not be considered. If a player cannot provide a satisfactory report on the walkthrough, their save will be annulled. In case dishonest play is proven, the player will be excluded from the tournament without the right to participate in Tournaments of Honor for one year. In case of PROVEN use of cheat codes or other known dishonest methods in a final walkthrough, the tournament organizers will submit an ADMIN request to revoke the player's access to the site ("ban").

12. Tournament Organizers reserve the right to disqualify any participant from the tournament. They are not obliged to explain the reasons for such a step or prove that the walkthrough does not match the SPIRIT of the tournament.

Rules of the save walkthrough.
1. When completing a save, one should be guided by the SPIRIT and IDEOLOGY of the tournament and be honest.
2. Save hacking, use of third-party programs ("hero diggers" etc.), as well as the use of cheat codes is strictly prohibited.
3. Prohibited:
3.1. Dishonest play;
3.2. Use of s/l method (specifically "digging out a hero," forcing weekly/monthly growth, etc.);
3.3. Use of any cheat codes regardless of the walkthrough stage, including "map exploration";
3.4. Loading an autosave, specifically "grinding" a result through constant re-plays of each Gameplay.
4. Allowed:
4.1. Replaying the game twice FROM THE VERY beginning in case of losing the map. However, it is strictly prohibited to use saves from previous walkthroughs during the repeat attempt;
4.2. Replaying the map once from the very beginning without explaining reasons. However, it is strictly prohibited to use saves from previous walkthroughs during the repeat attempt.
5. The game is played as if against a live opponent, without constant saves and reloads.
6. I emphasize again specifically: LOADING AN AUTOSAVE, SAVING THE GAME BEFORE A BATTLE, LOADING ANY SAVE OTHER THAN THE STARTING ONE IS UNACCEPTABLE!, as it contradicts the SPIRIT of the Tournament. Only loading a save from a deferred game in case of interruption is allowed. Naturally, verifying this point is impossible, but the presence of Dessa, Crag Hack, Tazar, Solmyr, Cili among heroes and constant growth weeks, as well as taking griffin conservatories without losses, may lead to exclusion from the tournament.
7. In case of violation of the Rules, the player is guaranteed exclusion from the tournament and other "joys of life."

May Honor and Dignity be with you! Glorious Victories!:)


Starting saves -> Download

Deadline for sending winning saves - October 01, 2006, 22:05.
В крови Огонь, а не вода...
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VDV_forever;34102
Dear tournament organizers! And also, participants of the tournament!

I found the time and completed all 3 maps, but for some reason, I can't submit them:

When submitting, the following message appears:

An unknown error occurred. Topic: SAVES from VDV_forever
Account: pop.bk.ru
Server: 'smtp.bk.ru', Protocol: SMTP, Server response: '503 Administrative prohibition -- authorization required. Users in your domain are not allowed to send email without authorization. See http://www.mail.ru/pages/help/261.html for details.', Port: 25, Encryption (SSL): No, Server error: 503, Error code: 0x800CCC65 :mad: :mad: :mad:

Maybe it would be better to upload the saves, as well as the scr files, directly in this thread???

P.S. Or maybe my email is just glitching:mad: :mad: :mad:

Sincerely, VDV_forever

It seems that the tournament organizers are having some problems. Otherwise, there is no other explanation for their prolonged absence on the forum during the tournament.
I have already received several saves and proposals to take on the task of summarizing the results of this tournament. To be honest, I don't really want to...
Besides, I have a backup email address [email protected].
In principle, anyone who wants to can send the saves to it, and then I will simply provide its password to the organizers.
Or, we can post the saves on the forum. If you don't want the competitors to know the results, you can protect the archive with a password.
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Good day, Knights of the Tournament! Please accept my sincere apologies for not having been on the forum for quite some time. No, I haven't forgotten; yes, I've been struggling and feeling guilty (for not letting you know). The thing is, my computer was taken away...:( and it was difficult to find a way to get online... I apologize again... I'll have to catch up on all the events that have happened on the forum and in this thread...

So... I see that the tournament is being played, but in my inbox, there are only saves from nprf (I don't see you in the list of participants, like others, but that doesn't mean anything to you because I have a more or less good idea of you as a person. You have played by all the rules and sent in the saves. Yes, my answer is that you are worthy of this tournament, you are a participant, if anyone doesn't understand. I just want to note that I am not a moderator and cannot edit other users' messages, but I am in favor of your participation!)... I just don't know if everyone is sending their saves there, or if they just haven't sent them yet (haven't completed the game yet), so go ahead, there's still time. We'll take care of the counting, don't worry...:)

I also wanted to say something about the arguments about the saves and the rules of the tournament... The rules were not created based on one opinion; they were practically created from scratch... If the saves are not well-organized, please forgive me if something is wrong or too easy...

VDV_forever, you are definitely sending them to the right address, although it's a silly question... well, if you want, you can post them on the forum in the thread...

And regarding the suggestion from the noble natasha, I need to say thank you! But we need the opinion of Firelord, and I haven't seen it yet...


So, Knights, write if you have any questions, I will try to answer them, otherwise it will be difficult to keep track of what has happened, and I might have missed something....

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Message from Qwerty
I ask the organizers to consider including Energizer in the list of tournament participants. I have known this warrior for a very long time))
A true knight!

Well, your word is enough for me, I need to meet with Firelord and discuss it...
Делай вещи, дела-делай вещи и не залипай!8)
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Ugh... the mail works sometimes, sometimes it doesn't.:mad:
But I was lucky today, I sent it:)
Dear Varg-Nar, please confirm receipt of my save files;)

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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Knight VDV_forever, your save files have been successfully received. :)
Делай вещи, дела-делай вещи и не залипай!8)
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Greetings to all participants and organizers of the tournament! I completely forgot about it in all this hustle and bustle. Well, I think I have time until 24:00, so I'll start sending the save files now. I finished playing them a long time ago, but I put off sending them until the last moment.
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

Ушел в Аллоды Онлайн!:)
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I will only be handling the sending of save files... I hope I have time ;) It's a pity that I'm not satisfied with the results of my own game - however, I didn't have time to improve the result by replaying "without explanation"... unfortunately... so I'm sending what I have.

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Well, that's it... I think I sent everything... I hope it arrives intact!
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
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In general, I've sent the save files. I only replayed the first map; now, I'm at least somewhat satisfied with the result, but the others are terrible! Well, I left them as they are; hopefully, I'll have better luck in the next round.
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

Ушел в Аллоды Онлайн!:)
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Firelord;16773
OFFLINE Tournament "Knights of Honor"

We need to agree on the game version – the options are SoD3.2, WoG, or TE. Or we can just ignore the version, as the final score depends on the map and the player's experience!

Dear organizers!
Please clarify this rule! What version should we have played on?
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Dear organizers!
Please clarify this rule!!! What exactly should we have been playing on?
Well, that depends on who the organizer is today!

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Qwerty;31993

As for TE, this tournament is being held on SoD. And here the tournament is on SoD. No showing off here:)))

If it's Qwerty - then that's the answer! :D
You quoted Firelord yourself from the tournament rules. :D :D
And Varg-Nar apparently didn't have those versions... :(
It would be more correct to ask the people what they played on.
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fanat and Ta Kotoraya......Your save files have been received, and therefore, all the results of the first round of the tournament will be calculated shortly (as soon as there is a free moment)...Regarding the continuation, we are waiting for the Tournament Organizer, Firelord, who was supposed to create the tasks for the second round, + there are also many questions about the tournament...But please don't worry, I will fulfill my duty to the tournament as planned...so the results will not be long in coming...Glorious victories, Knights of the tournament...!

P.S. PALADIN, I made the save files on the platinum edition of Heroes...this version also allowed for completing the tournament...
Делай вещи, дела-делай вещи и не залипай!8)
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Results of the first stage of the "Knights of Honor" tournament:

VDV_forever
Hellgate: 345 points
Border: 352 points
King of Pain: 446 points
Total score (1143)

Ta Kotoraya
Hellgate: 342 points
Border: 345 points
King of Pain: 444 points
Total score (1131)

fanat
Hellgate: 336 points
Border: 352 points
King of Pain: 446 points
Total score (1134)

nprf
Hellgate: 352 points
Border: 350 points
King of Pain: 448 points
Total score (1150)

Therefore, based on the completed stage of the tournament:

1) nprf
2) VDV_forever
3) fanat
4) Ta Kotoraya

The saves of the other participants were not received...
The continuation of the tournament will be delayed until Firlord returns... it is possible that something will change in the tournament rules... through joint discussions...
Thank you for your victories! Participants of the "Knights of Honor" tournament! :)
Sincerely, Varg-Nar...
P.S. If you have any questions, please write in the tournament discussion thread or send me a private message... :)
Делай вещи, дела-делай вещи и не залипай!8)
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Results of the first stage of the "Knights of Honor" tournament:

VDV_forever
Hellgate: 345 points
Frontier: 352 points
King of Pain: 446 points
Total points (1143)

Ta Kotoraya
Hellgate: 214 points
Frontier: 216 points
King of Pain: 444 points
Total points (874)

fanat
Hellgate: 336 points
Frontier: 352 points
King of Pain: 446 points
Total points (1134)

nprf
Hellgate: 352 points
Frontier: 350 points
King of Pain: 448 points
Total points (1150)

Therefore, based on this stage of the tournament:

1) nprf
2) VDV_forever
3) fanat
4) Ta Kotoraya

The saves of the other participants were not received...
The continuation of the tournament will be delayed until Firlord returns... it is possible that something will change in the tournament rules... through joint discussions...
Thank you for your victories! Participants of the "Knights of Honor" tournament! :)
Sincerely, Varg-Nar...
P.S. If you have any questions, please write in the tournament discussion thread or send me a private message... :)

Thank you for your work! However, I would like to know the results for each day; the points do not clearly represent the results.
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And just for fun, can you participate in the SECOND stage of the tournament?

Как много в жизни есть путей
Для добродетелей и мира.


Я вернулся...
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nprf
Hellgate: 352 points
Border: 350 points
Pain King: 448 points
Total score ( 1150)


NPRF, you can't play like this!!! Don't forget that you are in a clan now. And we are all judged by your gameplay. It feels as if you played everything on auto-battle!? You need to respect your opponents regardless of their skill level and play seriously. If you're too lazy to play properly, it's better not to shame our clan and just not play!

And I want to note something to Varg-Nar. It would be better to conclude the first tournament and call the second stage a second tournament. I think that even those who took part in the first stage are no longer interested in playing, since people were forced to withdraw from participation as a sign of protest against the notorious closed nature of the tournament!
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PALADIN;36899
NPRF, you can't play like that!!! Don't forget that you're now in a clan. And your gameplay reflects on all of us. It feels like you just played everything on autopilot!? You need to respect your opponents, regardless of their skill level, and play seriously. If you're too lazy to play properly, it's better not to embarrass our clan and just not play!

And to Varg-Nar, I'd like to say: it's better to finish the first tournament, and call the second stage the "second tournament." I think that even those who participated in the first stage are no longer interested in playing further, because people were forced to withdraw in protest against the infamous closed nature of the tournament!

I just decided to play once!!! To explore the entire map during the first playthrough, and then say, "Oh, I lost," and start over... The point about the possibility of replaying a quest a second time is for those who can't win right away! And that's it!!! Anything else contradicts my understanding of fair play, in the context of this tournament. In addition, I deliberately rushed to play all the quests in one day and submit them immediately, so that there would be no doubts about how the result was achieved.
I agree that my result in the last two quests is simply noobish, but this is not a disregard for opponents - it's just bad luck...
In the second one, I didn't use the bug with the dragons disappearing; instead, I gave them the opportunity to burn a significant part of the black dragons in my army, and only then did I start attacking them with Armageddon. And the main mistake was that I went to the tower with my weakest mage, not knowing the map, and to the swamp with my strongest. It turned out that the swamp hero with all his troops was in the sea, and there was nothing to fight the steel golems with. As a result, I lost 2 weeks. I chased the last hero all the way to his home castle!!!
In the third quest, I also had bad luck. I cleared one passage into the underground, and there was a garrison ahead... Well, again, about 2 weeks in the minus.
In essence, only the first map didn't hold any surprises - there the result is maximum; I just didn't try to get the fastest time, 5 or 9 days doesn't matter! Although even there, I moved my army in the wrong direction and had to bribe the computer hero to move the army and artifacts to another part of the map!

So, in general, the result is what it is. That's all.
What's more frustrating is that the organizers didn't give me the opportunity to compete with the strongest players. Continuing the tournament in this form is pointless.
:(