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The AK competitor was removed from FB 2. (AK members are also participants).

I don't see any point in continuing to play and communicate on HW after this.
Peace to all (c)
РП (Реальное папство!)
*Автосейвы не беру и не даю.

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Yes, first and foremost, this is Pete's merit; he clearly lacked the courage to declare Alex a cheater (because then Cobra would also have to be declared a cheater as an accomplice), but it was possible to remove someone from the competition who had a 5 out of 5 record in the main tournament. The investigation into Alex's case on the "independent resource" was amusing, where all members of the AC were actually moderators. It's unclear what point of view could be considered there other than the biased one described by Dubrovin and Pete. I fully support Forrest on this issue. I wish the AC continued success in their work.
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They were looking for a solution and found it; one can only envy their wisdom!!
A continuation of the series of blunders after Heroes of Might and Magic I!!!
Ушел с героев, пока пряники)
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A competitor of AK was removed from FB 2. (AK members are also participants)
5 out of 7 AK members are not participating in FB-2. However, the issue is debatable. AK made a decision on it. I think they had serious reasons and motives other than eliminating a competitor. Now, the issue may and should be about trust in AK itself. One doesn't argue with a judge's decision on the field. But I think it's worth putting the question of trust in AK to a vote. Personally, I trust them.
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Interesting people are getting offended here... Do you think it's easy to be in AK's position? Everyone here suddenly became so smart. Like we're just digging through this mess for fun? Is that it? AK will be responsible for any decision, one way or another. Personally, I don't agree with the methods, but unfortunately, it's impossible to be good for everyone.

I won't speak for others, I'll only answer for myself.
I voted against the ban and for the suspension. Why? Because I admit the possibility that it was Kobra who did it, and in that case, the presumption of innocence applies. And if it did happen and it was discovered, then be so kind as to take responsibility for the mess that's happening on your computer, especially if it ended up being broadcast.

I'll also add that no one is holding anyone here. The gods have already left the portal once, and nothing happened; everyone is alive and well, and we'll survive this too. We need to respect other people's work, after all.

Sorry for speaking out, I just had to get it off my chest...

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Wlk777
5 out of 7 members of AK are not participating in FB-2.
For reference. 3 members of AK are participating in FB2, and 2 of them voted against the suspension. So, there's no need to spread nonsense about "eliminating a strong competitor."
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The irony of the situation is that both my vote and LeBron's vote were against disqualification from the tournament — what kind of fight against competitors is that? Just a witch hunt... I'll support Kostya — this mess brings us no joy, but since we were chosen, we have to deal with it regardless of personal preferences, because none of this is for ourselves. And the remarks about leaving, well, that's just top-notch... Saying "my friend suffered because of AC, so I'll spit on all residents of HeroesWorld for that" — that will certainly help unite the Community, no doubt.
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Why wasn't there a general vote? For example, there was one for Vitalik. And only then was a decision made on the world forum. IMO, the Arbitration Committee shouldn't take responsibility for something like this on its own; if the majority of players decided, then yes.
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I don't understand the irony. If they decided to leave, let them go; why create another circus? Or is putting on a show in their blood?
Please, leave AK alone. They have a huge responsibility, and as practice shows, they are handling their work well. As for those who are complaining – well, sorry, but no one is going to fawn over you.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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Why wasn't there a general vote? There was one for Vitalik, for example. And then the decision was made on the world forum. IMO, the Arbitration Committee shouldn't take responsibility for this on its own; if the majority of players decided, then yes.
You're confusing the issue of cheating and disqualification from the tournament; these are two different things.
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What are the reasons? It would be good to mention them in Pavel's post. But of course, we need to respect ourselves.
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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What were the reasons? It would be good to mention them in Pavel's post. But of course, one should respect oneself. :)
Punishment for unsportsmanlike conduct. Although, I think a temporary ban in one game would have been enough...
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The Baevites have different things going on in their lives – some are into alcohol, others are just show-offs, but the fact remains that you guys have blown this out of proportion. From the outside, I only see that people who don't like Alik have seized on this as an opportunity to dump as much dirt on him as possible. I won't defend his behavior on the forum or in private conversations; sometimes it's nauseating. But the fact that he's the only person I'd play Heroes of Might and Magic online for money with, besides Andre and DC_Vasya, is also a fact. I've never doubted his honesty, and even Cobra's curiosity wouldn't have affected the game if we were playing it. Even knowing about Cobra's card reveal, we would have continued to play. There are people for whom the result matters (I won't list them), but there are also those for whom the process itself is important. Apparently, the accusers are not among the latter, and that's okay. There will always be champions, average players, and noobs. In Heroes, authority is earned over years; how can you not understand this and not be ashamed?

P.S.: I remember someone in the chat saying that we're all one big Baevite gang... it might be true, but not because of loyalty to the resource, but only because we've all met in real life, played together in real life, and are friends in real life, not just exchanging compliments on forums. Unfortunately, most of you are deprived of this. Envy in peace. You bastards (this is specifically for the bastards, not all forum users).
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=Stinger=

It's simply because we've all met in person, played together in real life, and are friends in real life, not just exchanging compliments on forums. Unfortunately, most of you are deprived of this, you poor souls. Envy in peace. You bastards (this is specifically for the bastards, not all forum users).
I swear, I don't feel deprived just because I'm not personally acquainted with Alex and haven't interacted with him in real life. And I'm not envious. Honestly.
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Wlk777
I swear, even though I'm not personally acquainted with Alex and haven't interacted with him in real life, I don't feel deprived at all. And I'm not envious. Honestly.

There's no need to personalize things. I meant the company, the time spent together, just a good time with friends. No one is forcing Alex on you as a friend. I wouldn't even have written anything on this topic, as I have my own perspective and opinion on this situation, which is unwavering. But attacks on the Heroesbay resource keep popping up with alarming regularity. There are jabs, mockery, and other things, and this is what I take personally. It doesn't do them any credit. And I would only be happy if each of the Heroes games resources had as cohesive a team as on Bay. Not just virtually, but also in real life. Forrest's decision is not a show, but a real decision.
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Stinger, no one has said anything negative about buying here. As far as I know, no one is attacking the resource. Moreover, I'll say this: I'm personally convinced that if Alex were a less well-known player, he would have been punished more severely, and there wouldn't have been so many arguments. And if you want respect for your company, start by learning to respect others and not writing posts like the one you wrote earlier. Who are you to so rudely and offensively evaluate others and impose your opinion? If you don't need respect, if your close-knit team is enough for you, then please go your own way and stay away from here. We'll survive, God knows.
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