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scorp

3/29/2010 8:44 PM UTC

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SAG

In the match between i_love_jesus and Aldegir, a controversial situation arose. i_love_jesus mistakenly attacked with a red rush. What are your thoughts on how to proceed?

Explanation: The red rush involved accidentally purchasing a small army from Rampart.
The battle looked like this:
i_love_jesus - 4 Behemoths, 4 Angels, 44 Wyverns
Aldegir - 2 Angels

Aldegir refused to auto-accept, and the map is already revealed to both players.

This situation is up to the opponent's discretion - whether to auto-accept or not, based on the rules! /if red rush is prohibited/

P.S.: If appealing to a judge, the judge should make a decision based on the rules, and not try to be nice/a gentleman to everyone.

KobRa_RR

3/30/2010 9:06 AM UTC

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Ideally, one shouldn't emulate the same approach as the Poles (for example, the Paladin class), but rather offer the option to replay from the beginning.

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Aldegir

3/30/2010 9:51 AM UTC

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KobRa_RR

Ideally, we shouldn't imitate others, like the Poles (for example, the Paladin faction), but offer a replay.

The question remained: how to replay... but they only want to win.

Homo Homini :smile03:

Острые копья мы воткнём в небо
Полками затмим горизонты
Знает уже враг не откупиться
От казака ему золотом жёлтым.

Мы выступаем не за трофеев
Ведёт нас вперёд великая вера
Если погибнуть за землю родную
Не побоиться тут каждый быть первым.

Лютая братия будет битва
Сложат былины мудрые деды
А коли останемся в поле навеки
Что-ж, жить нам после - в легендах.

In reply to Aldegir

SAG

3/30/2010 11:59 AM UTC

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Aldegir

The question remained... how to replay... but they only want to win...

the circumstances have changed.

Играю на www.heroes-III.com

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Wicc

3/30/2010 12:49 PM UTC

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Aldegir

The question remains... how to replay... but they only want wins...

Who are "they"? And what is their reasoning for this desire?

Aldegir

3/30/2010 1:16 PM UTC

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The question is currently closed... It all just boils down to absurdity... For now, I acknowledge my defeat for the sake of the grade (but not for the opponent!).

Homo Homini :smile03:

Острые копья мы воткнём в небо
Полками затмим горизонты
Знает уже враг не откупиться
От казака ему золотом жёлтым.

Мы выступаем не за трофеев
Ведёт нас вперёд великая вера
Если погибнуть за землю родную
Не побоиться тут каждый быть первым.

Лютая братия будет битва
Сложат былины мудрые деды
А коли останемся в поле навеки
Что-ж, жить нам после - в легендах.

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Wicc

3/30/2010 1:31 PM UTC

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I don't quite understand the essence of the problem.

SAG

In the match between i_love_jesus and Aldegir, a controversial situation arose. i_love_jesus mistakenly attacked with a red ram.

There are two options here: either i_love_jesus receives a technical defeat, or the match is replayed, at the discretion of HW.

SAG

3/30/2010 1:42 PM UTC

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Vic, I'm telling you – the circumstances have changed, and new information has emerged. Ask Pete.

Играю на www.heroes-III.com

Aldegir

3/30/2010 1:43 PM UTC

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I was already pointed out my mistake here, even before the redraw... Although it wasn't intentional; partly due to a misinterpretation of the rules, and partly because I was playing on autopilot (I was also playing in a poker tournament with a 22+2 buy-in). It was a silly mistake, but I don't want to argue... although if you look closely, you can find his violations as well, besides the redraw...! The best option would have been to replay the game, but if the opponent is against it, then that's how it will be!

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Homo Homini :smile03:

Острые копья мы воткнём в небо
Полками затмим горизонты
Знает уже враг не откупиться
От казака ему золотом жёлтым.

Мы выступаем не за трофеев
Ведёт нас вперёд великая вера
Если погибнуть за землю родную
Не побоиться тут каждый быть первым.

Лютая братия будет битва
Сложат былины мудрые деды
А коли останемся в поле навеки
Что-ж, жить нам после - в легендах.

Forrest

3/30/2010 2:36 PM UTC

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A tournament with the VSL, titled "Whoever understands our rules the least, loses" ;)

РП (Реальное папство!)
*Автосейвы не беру и не даю.

Скачать WT (Чат, античит, одновременный ход) http://www.heroeswt.net/download.php

Награда Лучшему игроку сезона Осень 2009 за Оплот

In reply to Aldegir

Dirty_Player

3/30/2010 2:41 PM UTC

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Aldegir

(was also playing in a poker tournament with a 22+2 buy-in)

That's what his attitude towards the tournament is like... It's better not to play at all or to forfeit immediately than to play like that... sorry for my IMHO.

SpiriTT

3/30/2010 3:18 PM UTC

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Dirty +1. This is an interportal! We all entrusted you with defending the honor of the resource! And you were playing poker??? ice.

ну это вообще всем аргамездец!© Kash
без авто:smile20:
Человек - игрушка Бога. Этому - то и надо следовать. Надо жить играя.
Платон.

In reply to Aldegir

SAG

3/30/2010 3:20 PM UTC

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Aldegir

I was already pointed out my mistake before the redraw... Although it wasn't intentional.

I understand if it was just grass-grass. But to "accidentally" transition from grass to lava is beyond words.

Aldegir

The most correct option would have been to replay the match.

The most correct option would have been to not reveal the map at the moment of the redraw, but to wait for the team leader's decision.

Aldegir

...!)

Please, elaborate.

Играю на www.heroes-III.com

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Catch

3/30/2010 3:35 PM UTC

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Dirty_Player

That's what I call an attitude towards the tournament... It's better not to play at all or to surrender immediately than to act like that... excuse my IMHO.

I completely agree with you, Galina Sergeevna :smile01:

In reply to Aldegir

wowa

3/30/2010 3:53 PM UTC

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Aldegir

...!)

Heroes players who play with alternative rules have a slightly different logic, which in some places differs significantly from the usual one ;)
therefore, it is not worth making hasty conclusions about unfair play based on its analysis – for them, building an optimum may differ greatly from ours :)
although I understand the train of thought in some ways: when faced with inexplicable actions, it is easier to assume cheating, but it is still better to allow for a different style of play... however, to write a post on this topic!!.. :o

however, if there are specific arguments, it is better to voice them, otherwise the statement is just a loud but irresponsible accusation based on suspicion :(

ps: according to the screenshots, the hero is standing on the border of zones, I suggest clicking through in the save – if there is no lava there, then there was no violation, because the border is not the adjacent zone itself, but also part of yours :D

............

"...the personal strengths and weaknesses of a leader are no true indication of the merits of his cause"

(с) Roger Zelazny