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16 years ago
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PReDS
Coming soon. My computer was broken. I spent 2 weeks catching up on tournament debts, using a friend's hospitality. Now it's fixed and I have internet at home - I'll catch up.
Yeah, I figured it out, I read it somewhere. Vic, don't touch Van, he's Stinger's :D
You guys started really fast ;) : the tournament has no strict deadlines, but many have already played 2 rounds.
No, not really... only 4 games in total. And in general, we are Russians (and Ukrainians too)) we do everything in a confusing way: if you don't set deadlines, we'll work our butts off, but we'll play two games a week)) Because no one is pushing us.
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16 years ago
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Wlk777 (Blue, Shakti, Shakti) defeated wowa (Red, Dungeon, Gunnar, Gunnar) 2smd4 (3) 146 WT.
We got a good start with a free town on the road, a hidden mine, and Damacon. The result of the first turn was 1-5 in the fort with a hidden mine. On the second turn, I got two level 2 creatures, and I headed towards my opponent. There was no log, so I reached the middle of the third turn. By this time, scouts had found a great treasure (with a Gladius, +4/+4 armor, a lot of hives, a Utopia, and boots). I was about to turn back, but I decided to take my opponent's capital instead, and then quickly headed to the treasure. Luckily, I was allowed to leave. There, I gathered almost 50 ducks, and in the Utopia, I found a RED SPHERE!!! (and a +5 all weapon). I was preparing to go to another treasure, but my opponent started showing slightly higher attack/defense stats than mine, and 17/19 in magic. I spent the night in a secondary town. On the next turn, Gunnar arrived and positioned himself to attack my town. He had very weak stats, so he surrendered immediately. On the next turn, YAY, BRACERS!!!!! - And just then, Gunnar jumped to my capital, as if on cue. I attacked and, with the bracers and the red sphere, I caught Gunnar. There was a disconnect during the battle, but there was no chance for 12 ducks of Gunnar against 47 Shakti's units + 34 griffin minors. Thank you for the game, and I wish you the best in the future, paying more attention to the rules (there was a redraw and a capture of a hidden mine without breaking the guard during the game, but I still won =).
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16 years ago
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Wlk777 (blue. Shakti. Shakti) def wowa (Red, Dungeon, Gunnar, Gunnar) 2smd4(3) 146 WT
Scattered ГО across wasteland, an external dwelling of minotaurs, Damacon. Result of the first 1-5 in the fort with an external dwelling. On the second, 2 conservatories at 2 each, I head to the opponent, no log so I only reach him by the middle of the third, by this time scouts found a tasty treasure zone (with Gladius, armor +4\4, a bunch of hives, Dragon Utopia, boots). I'm about to turn around there but still take the opponent's capital, then rush there, luckily they let me leave... There I recruit almost 50 ducks, in the Dragon Utopia a RED ORB!!! (and a sword +5 all). I'm heading to another treasure zone, meanwhile the opponent shows stats slightly higher than mine in attack\defense, magic 17\19. I spend the night in a secondary town, Gunnar flies in there and positions himself for a Miner attack. His army is very weak, he sues for peace immediately. On the next turn, HURRAY, SHACKLES!!!!! - Well Gunnar also hopped over to my capital, as if on cue, I split my army and with Shackles and the red orb I catch Gunnar, in the battle a disconnect but there was no chance whatsoever for Gunnar's 12 ducks against 47 Miner's +34 gr. minotaurs. Thanks for the game, I wish you'd pay more attention to the rules in the future (during the game there was a red rush and capture of an external dwelling without clearing the guards, good thing I won =).

we played on WT, but by HeroesWorld rules -- a perversion almost as bad as the game itself with Gunnar on sm) ))))
the generation was bugged, the entire upper swamp respawn, except for the road leading from it, is cut off by mountains, and you can only get there through ГО from the basement
but conservatories (3-4) in front of the castle and a bunch of heroes, on the 2nd day I break through a passage all the way to both secondary towns: Gunnar runs to one, Ciele to the other
Gunnar, having run around the swamp past the snipers, reached the swamp secondary town, while Ciele got stuck against greized psychics behind a hive(((
In the other direction a lift and teleport -- a passage to the opponent, but to go there against Miner!.... ;)
Therefore, at the start of the 2nd I wanted to first take a conservatory, pass the angels down the chain to Ciele and probe the opponent -- for this I even took 2 external dwellings of gnolls
medusas at home in the castle
but Gunnar in conservatories is by no means Miner, and a conservatory is not a temple, but a flush tank! :D not even bless helped! :rolleyes: I need to practice taking conservatories for Dungeon without army, especially since on sm there's nowhere much to run, so the profession of my favorite hero (for any other castle)))) doesn't help here
after feeding all the Dungeon brethren to the griffins, I finished them off with an army from the swamp, there's nothing left to do at the opponent's -- with 3 angels I almost left for a treasure zone (on the way there was a max conservatory, Ciele's check left 180 chickens there)))
on 131 I return there, Ciele, who had stayed under the tower, having brought Gunnar the army, removes another 25 birds from there, the main hero finishes the rest -- 7 angels, but the opponent is already at the doorstep, and besides them there's nothing to take on Miner with -- I give up the castle, delve deeper into the treasure zone, find Dragon Utopia 1-2
by the start of the 3rd Miner breaks through home, Gunya with various goblins from external dwellings and from Toad of the 20th(!!!) level from the prison breaks the minimal requirement -- Tome of Water!
the money received went to my head -- 7 stacks of 1 troll in the castle were killed by the mage with a loss of only 4-5 more lizards and the home castle was recaptured without any problems, but for some reason I buy more greized flies and lizards in the swamp, and pass them down the chain and a red rush in full glory :D (the red color, which is auctioned off on TE and which is given to Gunnar as a boost against Miner, is still a symbolic boost, but rules are rules!))
the game could have ended there, but the goal was to test the sweet pair, so we continued
there was also an incident while fleeing from neutrals after the boss marked me -- WT doesn't allow this, thanks to the opponent for auto! :)
then he clears his treasure zone with the army, I take the max Dragon Utopia in the swamp, there's little army as it is, auto-battle showed a loss leaving half the guards, but in reality a couple of angels and a pack of ducks survived :)
gave +11 to everything and Tome of Air -- on MM6 life is just beginning, especially with Gunnar, but on sm the entire map is under control, wherever I went -- I kept running into Miner, they wouldn't let us into the treasure zones anymore
they showed the red orb right away, and then also provided the shackles -- GG

thanks to the opponent for the game :)
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15.03.2010 Loi(red,dung,Shakti)def =Stinger=(blue,dung,Gunnar) 127 2sm4d(3)
They took away the blue color :), an external dwelling of dragons at the doorstep. I broke through a couple of passages, sent scouts there—on the second adjacent zone—saw that the passage to the blues was nearby—ran to 117 there, to boast about 2 dragons. At 122 I took an abandoned dungeon, there was a Medusa8, a Pandora's Box with 80 Troglodytes (Shakti was waiting), a Naga6, there was a portal—at 126 I took a secondary ramp that was being built, rushed after Gunnar into the treasure zone. Chains were up, money was fine. At 127 the blues called GG.
Thanks for the game, this is a win based on the layout.
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15.03.2010 Loi(red,dung,Shakti)def =stinger=(blue,dung,Gunnar) 127 2sm4d(3)
They took away the blue color :), external dwelling of drakes at the doorstep. I broke through a couple of passages, sent scouts there — in the second adjacent zone — saw that the passage to the blues was nearby — ran to 117 there, to boast with 2 drakes. On 122 I took the left dungeon, there was a medusa8, a pandora with 80 troglodytes (Shakti was waiting), naga6, there was a portal — on 126 I took the secondary of the under-construction ramp, ran after Gunny into the treasure zone. Chains were up, money was fine. On 127 the blues declared GG.
Thanks for the game, this win was according to the layout.

Yes, to be fair, I should have taken a restart, I don't understand why I didn't.
No external dwellings, no conflux either, but on day 4 I took the ramp, where I revealed an external dwelling of elves, thought about building it with the portal, but then on 117 Shakhter came running on dragons, I only managed to place pegasi and dwarves, decided not to place unicorns. In the end, I managed to take 2 wood and a naga bank on 4, study mass slow, and run to the treasure zone where I found nothing )
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16 years ago
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Loi - Stinger is currently planning for the third round,
Zhavdet - Vlk are playing now, so I'll get to that later. I'll sort out the second round in the evening; I can't do it right now.

Would it be better to move the WT discussion to the "WT Announcement" thread?
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16 years ago
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16.03.2010 Van (red,dung,Shakti) def =Stinger= (blue,dung,Gunnar) 132 panic
It was a brutal spawn even for panic, caught the opponent in town, with no chance to buy back, and since I had an external dwelling with 1 Troglodyte, 2 native villages with portals — that made 2 sources of income, giving me an advantage in power, although the opponent managed to devour 4 Angels, but they didn't outweigh the FB spells.
Thanks for the game.
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16 years ago
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Javdet (red, Dungeon, Gunnar) def Wlk777 (blue, Dungeon, Shakti) 2smd4(3) 115
The generator was mocking me for a long time; in about 10 restarts, not a single triple stack. In the last generation, a total of 107 Troglodytes from the start, one road to GO for up to 19 Monks (guarding a treasure chest and a level 3 Mage Shrine), an external dwelling of cats for up to 49 Cats (guarding a couple more artifacts and a couple piles of resources). I went off-road; 26 Air Elementals with Haste killed 20+ Troglodytes. Further on, there was another block of up to 49 Evil Eyes, but I didn't even reach it because 74 Gnolls formed a single stack and very luckily cast Weakness, wiping out almost 40 Troglodytes. Roman offered a rematch, but after 10 unsuccessful generations, the desire somehow faded... Thanks for the game
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16 years ago
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Hermit(Dungeon, Gunnar, Lorelei) def mals(blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) 8mm6 143

    My opponent had a home castle, but I had Lorelei sitting in the tavern, so I decided to take a risk and didn't take 111. On the first week I killed the brown player, I was very distracted and therefore lost one cat and didn't have much gold, Laura with basic earth magic. No Necks. On the second week, using the Monster chain, I got Boots of Speed, Laura leveled earth magic to expert and I had Slow and Conservatory 3 in a far corner of the respawn, but KS was only 1 and despite almost 50 mana points I lost 4 wyverns, two cat eyes, medusas, and several harpies there. On the third, Conservatory 2, and I try to go to the opponent, because he had already killed the green player as well. At first I made a mistake with the direction and ended up at the orange player. I took a Minotaur King there and found a Utopia guarded by many cyclopes, which I wisely refused to fight. Lorelei learned Logistics and with the boots, speeding up on Angels, makes a break for zone 20, then enters the fourth zone and takes the former stronghold of the green player there on 137. Shakti is busy taking the Hive and a Conservatory nearby. I can see from the overview. On 141, I buy up what I can from the growth. I go back, Shakti takes the town. I bring the growth, check the Utopia — Minotaur King and take it. There I got Sea Necklace, Magical Armor, which I already had, Crown of the King with 0 stats, but a Book of Air!!! And Laura with expert Logistics in boots starts hopping through the winding, void-riddled Dungeon. I capture the opponent's capital with the Capitol and a large number of unbought troops, and blue capitulates. That's how I didn't think or expect it, but managed to win.

    Thanks for the game.

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Hermit(Dungeon, Gunar, Lorelei) def mals(blue, Dungeon, Shachti, Shachti) 8mm6 143
Confirmed. The opponent broke the chain, so I had to pass the Shachti army through a roundabout route. If Vova had arrived one day later, the outcome would have been different, as Shachti had more troops.
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16 years ago
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4:5 currently in favor of Shakti :)

For those who aren't tired yet, I'm starting to distribute you for the third round; it looks roughly like this:

Third Round
=Stinger= - Loi 0:1
Javdet - Wlk777 1:0
KillerVampire - mals
=Stinger= - Wlk777
Hermit - Loi

If Hermit - Loi cannot agree on a map template, then let them look for other pairs. It's just that they have already played, while the others haven't yet. A separate story with comrade DC, who only wants to play XL templates without computers in SoD. If anyone is ready for such a perversion, please play with him or try to reach a compromise. Loi couldn't.And generally, I remind you that you can play with any member of the opposing team if you agree amicably. Good luck
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16 years ago
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There's something strange about the third round.
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16 years ago
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If Hermit and Loi can't agree on a template, they should find other partners.
Maybe we should try using the coin in the WTS chat.
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16 years ago
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There's something strange about the third round.
Don't worry, Stinger isn't as scary as people say he is :o (just kidding).
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Don't be afraid, Stinger isn't as scary as they say he is :o (jokingly)
Never mind. That's not what's strange. Second attempt for you, Victor ;)

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