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The Playground admin has given the go-ahead to finish the championship on Sunday.
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Request to those who have already been to this club: please provide more detailed information about it. Is it necessary to arrange things with the club administration in advance?
Anonymous (20:10):
I went there the day before the meeting and asked if there would be computers available. I said we needed four, and they said to come, they would be available.
PReDS (20:11):
What's the address and how do I get there?
Anonymous (20:11):
Do you know Frunzenskaya metro station?
PReDS (20:11):
Yeah
Anonymous (20:12):
There's only one exit; in the same building where the exit is, there's a door next to the door to the cinema.
Anonymous (20:12):
2nd floor

Can anyone reserve 2 computers for Friday evening? It's not very convenient for me to travel from Podolsk to Moscow for this, or maybe you have a phone number.
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Didn't understand, it's a mistake, like "heard the bell but didn't see the church" - in the League, the home base for the Pit faction is in Krasnodar, so I thought that's why the guy was so stressed, traveling, and then he got stood up...

http://forum.heroesleague.ru/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=92

There was no one from Krasnodar, you're confusing something :confused:

Regarding the out-of-town players - if I had a ticket, I would definitely play instead of Preds, despite my late arrival, and I would have played first))))
There's really nothing to award, and I'm not even trying anymore....... :)
"...the personal strengths and weaknesses of a leader are no true indication of the merits of his cause"

(с) Roger Zelazny
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This is the only option I see for myself in order to save my time, of which I have already spent quite enough: (
I don't see a significant difference in time between playing with Eddie and playing with someone else. Both will take from half a day to a full day (depending on how things go), and with Eddie, you might even finish faster because he has already done some work.

And in any case, it doesn't seem logical to spend 3 days, win 2 games, and give up the chance to go to the CIS championship final because you need to spend another day finishing the game.

Of course, I will accept your decision, whatever it may be, but personally, I would like your match to still take place.
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Could someone register Eddie here and give him a link so he can also share his opinion? Because you guys are making all the decisions for him.
Regarding the players selected from the two tournaments: IMHO, it's actually a good thing. The players have shown (and proven!) that they deserve to go to the finals, so why add anyone else from 4th or 5th place? They've already been defeated in the respective qualifiers. Are you short on participants?
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Eddy is registered here under a fake name ;)
szopa666: ban JC win game Keepo
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Someone register Eddie here and give him the link so he can also have his say... you guys are making all the decisions for him.
Well, he can browse the topic. If he disagrees with something, he can let me or one of the organizers know without using the forum.
I don't even know why he was banned. Although, there's already one unbanned user who was requested by the community, I don't know if he's better than Eddie.
Samurai

Regarding those selected from the 2 tournaments: IMHO, this is actually a good thing. People have shown (and proven!!!) that they deserve to go to the finals, why add someone else from 4th or 5th place? They've already been defeated in the respective qualifiers. Are you running out of participants?
Don't worry, they'll probably introduce a wild card as well:D.
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I don't see a significant difference in time between playing with Eddie and playing with someone else. Both will take from half a day to a full day (depending on how things go), and with Eddie, you might even finish faster because of what's already been done.

And in any case, it doesn't seem logical to spend 3 days, win 2 games, and give up the chance to go to the CIS championship final because you need to spend another day finishing the game.

Of course, I will accept your decision, whatever it may be, but personally, I would like your match to still take place.

well, it seems like we've figured out the timing -- Predsa and Eddie have kindly agreed to play during the week :)
but there's also an ethical aspect here
it just so happened that all the saves ended up with me :smile43:
and my opponent, whether in jest or for some unclear reason, asked me not to look at our save :confused:
understanding the absurdity of this request from the point of view of the same ethics, I formally agree with him: having the saves in my possession violates the principle of the club tournament about the technical impossibility of cheating :(

therefore, solely so that my opponent has absolutely no doubts, which he has already expressed, as well as any related concerns that could negatively affect his game, I suggest simply canceling this start, just to be on the safe side, and starting a completely new game ;) in principle, since that's the case, I'm willing to spend extra time on the start -- it will still be offset by finishing the game during the week :smile33:
"...the personal strengths and weaknesses of a leader are no true indication of the merits of his cause"

(с) Roger Zelazny
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a map vying for the title of the most beautiful (until one of its authors finishes another one, which also claims this title ;) :

(due to problems with opening external links, it has been reformatted as an attachment to the post)))

the rest will be added as they are sorted out :)
There is a small discrepancy in the archive; the first save is from the generation when Markon took a restart, although, it seems, he was overwriting it. I apologize to those who will be watching (if anyone will at all:D).
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Well, it seems we've figured things out – Preds and Eddie have decided to settle down for the week :smile43:.
But there's also an ethical aspect to consider.
It just so happened that all the save files ended up with me :smile43:.
And my opponent, whether jokingly or for some unclear reason, asked me not to look at our save :confused:.
Understanding the absurdity of this request from an ethical point of view, I formally agree with him: having the save files in my possession violates the principle of the club tournament regarding the technical impossibility of cheating :(.

Therefore, solely to ensure that my opponent has absolutely no doubts, which he has already expressed, and also to avoid any related anxieties that might negatively affect his game, I suggest simply canceling this start and beginning an entirely new game ;). In principle, since that's the case, I'm willing to spend extra time on a new start – it will be offset by finishing the game during the week :smile33:.
Respect! IMHO, the proposal is excellent and resolves all the problems. As long as Eddie agrees. Then, for the new game, we just need to invite a referee; there will definitely be spectators, and we can play without save files. I really want everything to be played – IMHO, this is the most interesting selection process.
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at the same time, my opponent, either jokingly or for some unclear reason, asked me not to look at our save file :confused:
understanding the absurdity of this request from the point of view of ethics, I formally agree with him: having save files at my disposal violates the principle of the club tournament regarding the technical impossibility of cheating :(

Oh... No need to ruin the comedy and come up with some conclusions based on perfectly harmless words.

The game is not finished yet, so I don't want to give any comments on this for now. Otherwise, I might jinx it. Knock on wood, knock on wood, knock on wood :-))

I will only say one thing (I hope without offense): on my side, there is a "Thieves' Guild," and on turn 121, it showed that 2 horses were lost. That is, the best monster is - monkeys. Therefore, I am ready to accept my opponent's surrender if the judges don't mind. My opponent's desire to start a new game looks logical, but naturally, this is not in my interests.
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Oh... Let's not turn this into a comedy and come up with some conclusions based on perfectly harmless words.

The game hasn't finished yet, so I don't want to make any comments about it prematurely. Otherwise, I might jinx it. Knock on wood, knock on wood, knock on wood :-))

I'll just say one thing (I hope you don't take it personally): I have a "Thieves' Guild" on my side, and on turn 121, it showed that 2 horses were lost. That is, the best monster is monks. Therefore, I am ready to accept the opponent's surrender if the judges don't mind. The opponent's desire to start a new game seems logical, but, of course, it is not in my interests.
argument aka childish babble :smile18:
if losing 2 horses (while they have a castle, i.e., compared to the standard setup, it's actually minus 1 horse but plus marks, crushers, and pikes, and there's a ton of money to buy everything back + they defend in a chain) in exchange for a 10th-level alchemist with a lair, pathfinding, and ranged attack, and experience up to the 8th level doesn't count :D (i.e., practically 2 fronts throughout the game) is considered a loss... well, then, excuse me... I wish to hear more substantial arguments... I remind you that in the last game here – the FB-3 qualifier – I lost EVERYTHING, and I barely managed to rebuild, but I still won the game :smile04:
so it's better not to provoke further arguments, but to talk about the essence of the regulations
I violated the regulations, but since this was done at the request of the organizers, they, I hope, are ready to meet me halfway, at least so that no one can even theoretically suspect me of abuse... sic :cool:

P.S.: childish babble-2
WHERE were you when it was repeatedly suggested to sit down and continue?! ;)
you should have been grabbing your luck by the... well, you know, while it wasn't too late!
the fact that the game with Preds stalled is because Preds was busy with Marcon! and who knows how long they would have been mashing each other after cutting each other's troops! :)
I was ready to play exactly then, at the club
now the situation has changed... well, if they recognize it then, it's the judges' full right, I won't object, but it's not up to you to decide)))))))
"...the personal strengths and weaknesses of a leader are no true indication of the merits of his cause"

(с) Roger Zelazny
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Oh... No need to turn this into a comedy and come up with some conclusions based on perfectly harmless words.

The game hasn't finished yet, so I don't want to give any comments about it prematurely. Otherwise, I might jinx it. Knock on wood, knock on wood, knock on wood :-))

I'll just say one thing (I hope without offense): I have a "Thieves' Guild" on my reserve, and on turn 121, it showed that 2 mounts were lost. That is, the best monster is a monkey. Therefore, I am ready to accept the opponent's surrender if the judges don't mind. The opponent's desire to start a new game looks logical, but naturally, it's not in my interests.

Or maybe they just haven't been built yet, the mounts? Maybe he went for griffins with two of them, what do you need those mounts for??;)
Хаос - это порядок, которым сложнее управлять.

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an argument, or rather, childish babble:smile18:
If sacrificing two cavalry units (while they have a castle, meaning that compared to the standard setup, it's actually minus 1 cavalry but plus marks, crushers, and pikemen, and there's a ton of money to buy everything back and they defend in a chain) in exchange for a 10th-level Alchemist with a Log, Pathfinder, and ranged attack, and the experience gained is up to the 8th level, counting that as a loss... well, then, excuse me... I wish to hear more substantial arguments... I remind you that in the last game here – the FB-3 qualifier – I lost EVERYTHING, and yet I still managed to win the game:smile04:
So, it's better not to provoke further arguments, but to stick to the essence of the regulations.
I violated the regulations, but since it was done at the request of the organizers, they, I hope, are willing to meet me halfway, at least so that no one can even theoretically suspect me of abuse... sic:cool:


Well, that's great. So, let's continue with what we've already started. I have no complaints about you.

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It shows not only the best monster but also the army's strength, the total gold reserve, income, etc... I'm just too lazy to write it all out; there's other information there. For example: the green computer wasn't killed, meaning Wowa captured a neutral village, not the computer's... Well, in short, I can't give too much information because the game still needs to be finished.
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There's a slight issue with the archive; the first save is from the generation when Marcon took a restart, although it seems like he was overwriting it. I apologize to anyone who might watch (if anyone does:D).
By the way, I watched it ;) and I would be very interested to hear Marcon's opinion on why he took the restart:confused:.
On the first day, he visits an observatory where hidden Dendroids and Pegasi are located, plus his native secondary resource is near a lot of Orcs and Golems. Although no cans are visible, these hidden resources are very strong for balance. But Preds, on the contrary, has a complete mess... although it looks good for the first day, after exploring, there isn't a single hidden resource. Somewhere far away on a neighboring corner respawn, there is a can, and that's it.
I think we shouted "Ooo!!!" too loudly :D. And Preds should have taken the restart in the first generation.

P.S. By the way, I didn't get the 15k gold I ordered for the quest :(. But where the uniques were, in the hero's tomb, there was a red orb :). And a scroll (near a lot of skeletons) that we ran past 20 times was a powerful item ;).

P.S. It was a very interesting and enjoyable time :). Huge thanks to the organizers.

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