Posts from The 4th annual offline tournament, "Best of the best".

SergeyY, you showed a good result. Stop making excuses.
Once upon a time, there was a Lydian king named Croesus. He desperately wanted to be recognized as the happiest man.

Okay, fine, forget about MY strategy. I wanted to discuss which maps would be more interesting and why. Antimagic garrisons can really slow things down; it's like a quest where you need to bring, say, 20 Archangels to proceed. And at that moment, the entire open area BEFORE this quest becomes relevant. So, it turns out to be just grinding in one place to gather resources. I once created a map of this type, and it was heavily criticized. If I have time in the future, I might rework this map and complete it in less than 23 days. Under normal circumstances, and not when a tournament is about to end.

Antimagic garrisons can really slow things down.

Think about your map. Now do you understand what the problem is? As the tournament showed, a garrison doesn't hold the game for very long... Although, maybe it would be better without it, but it's not for us to judge, it's up to VOVLAD.

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If I have time in the future, I might rework this map and finish it in less than 23 days... Under normal circumstances, and not when the tournament is about to end.

Why bother? Save your energy for a new one.

Kash once, without fully understanding, said that a map could be completed in just 2 days. That was truly funny.

not funny ;)
it's enough to look at the history of offline tournaments on HW... and not just on HW... when even more difficult maps were completed in seemingly impossible times...))
well, the strongest offline players didn't participate here... IMHO...
by the way, Dirty, how long do you think you would complete the map... I know it requires a long analysis, etc., but just... roughly??

by the way, Dirty, how many days do you think it would take you to complete a map... I know this requires a lot of analysis, etc., but just a rough estimate?

I don't know how many days it would take me, but I would try to complete it in the same number of days it would take a high-level logistics specialist with a stable full of horses, wearing boots and gloves, to reach the final battle. And I can't even give a rough estimate of that number of days :(

I don't know how long it would take me, but I would try to complete it in the same number of days it takes a highly skilled logistics expert, wearing boots and gloves, to reach the final battle.

THAT'S IT! You hit the nail on the head! That's exactly why I had that strategy – to focus all my efforts on quickly opening and clearing all zones, and capturing castles! Maximum number of heroes. Large financial losses (buying heroes), which means less investment in building to produce troops! I read that the great offline player vbn wrote something similar, that you need to try to play exactly like this, and not focus on building troops at the expense of opening everything as quickly as possible. And Tolikandro says that my strategy is wrong.

Congratulations, Tolikandre, well done! :)
Sergey, that's good too. "At least something" is there, that's a plus. ;-)

Kash once, not quite understanding, said that the map can be completed in 2 days. That was really funny. :)

Kash literally said that he "wouldn't be surprised if someone completed the map in 2 days." And he wouldn't be surprised))
P.S. Now I hope you'll have time for online games :rolleyes:
Good luck.

And Tolikandro also says that my strategy is wrong.

Okay, can you share your IDEAL turn-by-turn saves up to turn 117 so I can dispel my doubts?:confused:

Okay, I can check out your IDEAL step-by-step saves up to level 117, so you can dispel my doubts.

Let's do it.

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He wouldn't even be surprised.

But I would be surprised.

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Why? Save your strength for the new one.

When will the new one be released? I'm waiting... I really want to take 1st place. :)

toSergeyY: I looked at your saves... :eek:
1. Considering the extremely minimal losses in all possible battles, I assume you were PRACTICALLY CONSTANTLY boosting morale :smile01: This was a big mistake from the start; don't repeat it in the future so you don't embarrass yourself!:smile38:
2. What were you planning to fight with in Inferno? I won't even mention the Minotaur... You spent all your sulfur on buying heroes... and you practically didn't build anything... In the end, you lost all your troops, and on day 117, you only had 14 knights left!! What were you planning to do next??
In short, I have no words...:smile52:

considering the extremely minimal losses in all possible battles, I believe you were PRACTICALLY CONSTANTLY exploiting morale.

Incorrect statement. On the first two days, I certainly took the time to find a battle setup where I could gain at least one morale on the first turn, and it wasn't difficult to do. The main advantage of these battles is that I could defeat almost any army with only 14 knights and 20 swordsmen (and a few single flies to absorb retaliatory strikes), even against an army consisting of 5 dragons, 10 black knights, 15 liches, 30 vampires, 50 spirits, 80 zombies, and 200 skeletons, all of them upgraded. Then, I defeated 100 liches without any losses! I'm just GOOD at fighting magic, and there's nothing complicated about it. I find the right formations, etc. I even sent you pictures of one of the difficult battles! There was no morale involved.

So, don't talk about my 14 knights; instead, I explored the map at an incredible speed, and by the way, I captured the Necromancer's Castle much EARLIER than you! And everything was already built there! By turn 121, I could buy all the resources from the Necropolis, and by turn 121, I bought 7 DRAGONS (also from dwellings). And I immediately got a fully built Mage Guild with levels 4 and 5 on the first week! I also had resurrection. All of this probably cost me 20 swordsmen? Did I waste sulfur on heroes? Wouldn't it be better to use it to build things in the castle I captured from others?

wasted all the troops

Nonsense! Out of 17 knights and 20 swordsmen, I only lost 20 swordsmen. I still have 14 knights, and I also get all the resources from the Necropolis, have 7 dragons, and you call that "wasting all the troops"?

In short, there are no words.

I have no words for how poorly you seem to understand... I'm becoming more and more convinced that my strategy was correct. The anti-magic garrison kept me safe. And after turn 117, I was no longer playing for speed in terms of hero days! There was only 1 day left until the end of the tournament, and I just needed to manage my time... So, don't try to prove to me that because I have more days, my strategy is bad. If I hadn't been short on time, I could have played much better than you with this starting position. By the way, if I have time, I will try to complete the game faster than your 23 days, using this starting position (and the ability to attack that anti-magic garrison as early as turn 115). For now, I don't have time.

I no longer have the desire to argue with you personally. You have shown your purely human qualities by insulting me with phrases like "a bad dancer" or "zero result." Getting 2nd place with 1 day left until the end of the tournament after my turn 117 is probably not bad, right?

I no longer wish to communicate with you personally, Tolikandro.

I have no words to express how little you seem to understand... I'm becoming more and more convinced that my strategy was correct. Personally, Tolikandro, I no longer wish to communicate with you.

Hmm... It seems I really don't understand the game very well...:smile21:
And in this tournament, I just got lucky that you didn't have enough time, and the others were too lazy to play... Plus, work + wife and child gave me more time to play:smile04:... Sorry if I offended you, I rarely get upset, you are the second such person in the entire history of my communication on forums:o... the first one lives on heroesportal:smile35:...
In general, I will learn to play better for the next tournament:smile39:, I'm sure that I will be less lucky there and you will win due to your intelligence:smile49:...
I think I'll end our discussion here.:)

I'm so annoyed by people like *****y... I hope I'm not the only one. Whether you want to delete them or put them on blast – it doesn't matter.

If he wants it that badly, just give him first place...
And the complaints about the map are unfounded. Look at the editor: if there's an antimagic garrison, then change your tactics and build up your army. What's so difficult about that? It slows everyone down.

Yes, submitting a map with such a long completion time for a tournament is not ideal. And of course, congratulations to the winner and simply the best player of Heroes of Might and Magic III!