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What is the difference between a "very smart" person and a "smart, but not very" person? The example is quite illustrative and can be used to demonstrate this. A "very smart" person would understand that I misinterpreted the previous statement. Why – who knows, maybe he was in a hurry, read it carelessly, or something else... And a "very smart" person would say: "SergeyY, pay attention, it seems the conversation was about Stinger, which most likely means that he entered the dungeon after he 'lit it up,' i.e., after he saw what was inside. And you thought that 16 elves entered the dungeon without 'lighting it up'?" And that would immediately resolve all misunderstandings. There would only be 2 posts, or maybe even none at all, because it would be deleted so that no one would misunderstand anything. But a "smart, but not very" person would say something different. He would say, "You need to be punched in the face!" But WHY?? Because I spoke the TRUTH! This is how an argument begins, when everyone understands that I was right in what I said, but out of habit, they continue to try to prove that I was wrong EVEN IN THAT. I am wrong in everything, and in general, I am the most stupid creature... Why? Because a "smart, but not very" person SOMETIMES does not want to admit that he is wrong, even if he really is wrong. And now – which phrase is better for the respected Stinger (the initial one, i.e., the one from the "very smart" person, or the one about punching in the face, without even trying to understand anything)? A question for Forrest. I think the second phrase is worse. He "provoked" an argument and insults that lasted for several pages, and as a result, Stinger is not better off because his name is mentioned in such a mess. (I apologize for the expression).

16 Grand Griffons + 50 Centaurs, 5 Pegasuses, and 3 Ents

It was only mentioned that there were 16 Grand Griffons. And in the first week, you need to capture secondary resources and defend outposts, not have the main hero explore the map.

But no one will ever convince me that if a person doesn't see what's in the treasure and goes there with 16 Grand Elves, then they either acted incredibly STUPIDLY, or they probably knew exactly what they were going there for. For example, by using a maphack.

Sorry, but your rambling nonsense is getting tiresome! You were given an example from the "Father" game, not just a regular person like you or me! You can only admire the Guru game, but not criticize it! I'm sure that based on your statements, which are actually not substantiated by anything, your level of play is approximately slightly below the baseboard. I assume that you are not even capable of analyzing the saves of strong players, and there is no point in arguing here with masters and trying to prove anything to them!!

Let me give you one striking example from one of my games on the Jebus template with a rather strong European player. The point is that HE, having the hero Caitlyn with 9 9 15 133, with Stone Skin and Healing in the book, on turn 125, with ONLY 3 Archangels in his army (no other troops at all!!), defeats his GO 26 Ghost Dragons and on the same day defeats my GO 73 Manticores with an upgraded stack, all this, of course, without any losses, and about half of the mana remains...
I was in shock for two days after looking at the saves after the game:confused:, I tried to repeat the success and I managed to do it after a number of attempts!! But who would take such a step?? This is evidence of HUGE gaming experience and the same skill!! I saved the saves, of course!
The conclusion is one: stop rambling and learn to play!! You are talking a lot of nonsense!!:smile51:

In the first week, you need to capture secondary resources and defend outposts, not have your main hero wander around in tier 3 areas.

GO FOR IT, NEWBIE!!!

Once, Stinger visited the old man at level 121 with a small army. He saw an army of a group of Grand Griffons and a horde of Centaurs, plus a couple of horses with Gnomes. He used chains to capture Nagabanki, Ululchish, and Nagas, and with Angels and the entire force from the Tower, he happily attacked.

For those who don't understand.

Tolikandro
You don't need to teach me anything. I've read reports from some "dads" of heroes! VERY DETAILED reports! And I remember those kinds of phrases very well - "this is obviously the path to the Treasury, but it's pointless to go there with this army yet, I'm going to take back the outpost, the Consulate, and so on." And there were more than 16 Grand Elves there!

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Forrest!!

Going to the Treasury with 16 Grand Elves is like breaking through alone to the enemy's gate through all the defenders.

Here. A quote from one of the posts, about the discussion of these infamous "16 Elves." For those who are clueless.

Here. A quote from one of the posts discussing these infamous "16 elves." For those who are confused.

I provided the original phrase. The army is highlighted in bold there. Why are you quoting Kostya?

In general, everyone needs to calm down. I think everyone understands who is who now.)

An armored avalanche of spam... no words...
P.S. I'm already sick of the word "elves"...

Forrest
If you're such an expert, then by all means, go ahead. Go to the dungeon with 16 elves (and no wood), on a small map, and then show me the saves. I'll see what you manage to get... Then I'll believe it!

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Why are you quoting Kostya?

Because at that moment, I was reading the respected Kostya and the respected Wlk777; is that not clear? And I said what I think about going to the dungeon with 16 elves, especially if the person hasn't cleared that dungeon yet. What's wrong with that? Do you need to immediately make such a fuss about it? You should have first asked about who I'm writing about, why I'm writing, and to which specific posts I'm responding. And then you started talking about "faces."

We need a topic for the forum.

That's not the case. Let them just vent here.

Fortress
If you're such an expert, then please, go ahead. Go into the Treasury with 16 Elves (and no wood), on a small map, and then show me the saves. I'll see what you take... Then I'll believe it!

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Because at that moment I was reading the respected Kostya, and the respected Wlk777, is that not clear? And I said what I think about going into the Treasury with 16 Elves, especially if the player hasn't revealed that Treasury. What's wrong with that? Do you need to immediately make such a fuss? You should have first asked about who I'm writing about, why I'm writing, and to which posts I'm responding. And then you started talking about "face."

Sergey, what do you need his saves for? Challenge him to a duel, make saves, and analyze the game, then I think the true meaning of the expression "it's not hard to talk big" will be revealed to you. And if you win, you'll shut the mouths of all the naysayers.:smile50:

Where should I go with him...? I'll lose again, and I don't like losing. I'd better find some weaker opponents.

To be honest, reading all this nonsense is tiring and sometimes even unpleasant (both sides occasionally come up with some gems). In my opinion, Sergey enjoys arguing for the sake of arguing, because it seems like he enjoys all these squabbles. When responding to specific posts from specific people, they clearly write - "to ***: regarding your words, I have the following to say..." Demagogues, on the other hand, will always concoct a vague phrase so that, no matter what, they can latch onto it in a future argument. As a rule, such ambiguous statements hook particularly passionate opponents and provoke aggression; then everyone forgets where it all started, and a senseless brawl begins. The most likely outcome for the instigator is a communication vacuum for an indefinite period; the question is: is it worth it?