Posts from FB-2 (spring 2010)

Tournament "FB-2"
Piterius (red, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) draw Aldegir (blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) 2SM4d(3) 246 ;

we took a restart at 111 Especially since in the first generation we had an external dragon dwelling :(

111 - one passage is blocked by up to 99 air elementals - guarding a Pandora's Box and an obelisk, the second passage - ГО ..

I decided to try to break through them with 124 Troglodytes and some chaff.. they became 95 :) loss.. 27 air elementals remained ....
112 - somehow moved around hoping for the opponent's restart on 113
113 - the Red's restart didn't sound.. so our restart is on 113

Krate and again...
111 - 2 stacks of Troglodytes for Shakti +36 for Deese +4 Evil Eyes and Ciele as a second scout hero...Artifact - from Luck..Hive

right next to the castle behind up to 99 Wolf Riders... Result: 126 Troglodytes +4 Evil Eyes and chaff from

Ciele... with this crew we break through to a Chest and a Helm of the Unicorn behind 32 Harpies + a Witch Hut behind

the Wolf Riders.. in it is Scouting...2 exits to secondary heroes upstairs.. one guard - over 100 Pixies, the second

up to 49 Witches...
112 - We break through 34 Witches and from the other side up to 49 Griffins :( but right after exiting the underground

to the surface.. there's another passage to a secondary hero behind up to 49 Pegasi.. I decided to break through them... it became 25 ... the passage

turned out to be to our own secondary hero.. :) ... scouted ГО - Hydras .. + bought another hero +350 gold... in

the fight with Pegasi and Witches and Harpies and a main stack I lost 30 Troglodytes :( so now 95... but right at

our own secondary hero I see an external Troglodyte dwelling ..
113 - didn't come.. the reds took the restart on 113

One more round of krates!!! :)

111 - Shakti with 3 stacks + 1 for Deese + 9 Elves for Ivor :)..Artifact - Skull Helm +2 knowledge +

an external Troglodyte dwelling near the castle..+ an external Minotaur dwelling blocks the passage but behind up to 49 Manticores (guard of the dwelling+

artifact+ chest+obelisk+resource) in short there are a lot of them apparently.. so I decided to take the Troglodytes from the dwelling

and operate with Troglodytes.. result 174 Troglodytes...Broke through the passage to a secondary hero.. 32 Earth Elementals... but the passage

to the castle is blocked by Elves.. so I ran further along the path...
112 - ran to the exit from the underground.. guard up to 99 Pixies.. broke through them.. morale took off 7

Troglodytes... went outside and there are Zealots guarding and the red flag is visible.. turned back.. captured an artifact +5%

shooting.. The Reds noticed us ...and declared the possibility of a repeat upon meeting...
113 - Broke through Gargoyles for resources... Shakti ran to break through the second passage to a secondary hero..
114 - The Reds took out the Zealots and did a repeat upon meeting...

Krate.. krate.. krate..

111 - Shakti came again with 3 stacks - 105 Troglodytes +39 from the scout hero and +14 bought =158 Troglodytes +17

Pikemen with a ballista from the scout hero that's the starting army... artifact Pendant +1 duration

spell extension...Broke through the passage upstairs .. 38 Mummies and 89 Pixies (took out 17 Troglodytes) ..
112 - Captured a Ring +1 health.. + took a max Crypt.. but started making big mistakes and missed 2!!!!

Troglodyte turns.. so in the Crypt which was being taken without losses.. I lost another -10 Troglodytes.. ГО -

20-49 Giants on our side...
113 - Took another 1 mini Crypt and ran up to a Conflux secondary hero.. and there's a block :( .. up to 49 Ogre Magi - guarding

a Golden Bow... decided to fight them.. it became 41 .. and just my luck.. the Troglodyte attack 190-490 and instead of doing 360

and wiping out the whole stack (6 Ogre Magi) they'd leave 1-2 and later 3 remaining.. they wore us down

considerably :( -32 Troglodytes... 99 Troglodytes left.. but now 7 Evil Eyes can shoot without penalty damn

:)... Deessa is running things for the Reds...
114 - Capture the Conflux secondary hero.. buy a spell book there.. have Haste from our Air Magic...
115 - Took a Crypt with 5 Vampires using Tazar.. gave Earth Magic + Pathfinding in the hut..
116 - Broke through the passage to the treasure zone through 37 Demons... Visible - an external Horse dwelling guarded by the same (10-19)+ guarding

a Ring +1 speed + a Hive is visible + a Prison and Head of Legion...
117 - The treasure zone turned out to be poor... Result of week 1,2,3,4,5,6 being in the main castle + a portal with Troglodytes and

1,2,3 with a mage guild and market in the Conflux...
121 - Buy Another native hero with 35 Troglodytes +28 from the dwelling + we'll buy 14 from the teleport next turn and

+22 from the castle = 99 Troglodytes :) +85 from Shakti = 184 Troglodytes.. not super for week 2 but can be played..Shakti runs

home and from there plan to run to the Inferno secondary hero probably...Scouted another 1 Hive in the treasure zone + an external Angel dwelling

+ University + Orb of Inhibition behind up to 19 Firebirds
122 - Opened a view on the Conflux respawn and see half of the reds' respawn.. and there's Kyrre with 10-19 Archers and 1-4

Cavalry and Pikemen... + Deessa + Valeska + Gundula.. :) plenty to choose from..
123 - +2 attack in the arena for Shakti... not enough money to buy troops for the treasure zone :(...
124 - broke through the passage through 26 Crusaders to the Inferno respawn (already the reds' secondary hero) there lies a shield

+3+3 and a view + probably an exit to the underground treasure zone... partially visible from our respawn....Got

Armorer.. still no Logistics :(
125 - Visited the view and everything turned out as I assumed :).. but the guards are too strong for

Troglodytes :( .. captured the shield from 99 Dwarves :) ... getting ready to capture the reds' secondary hero with a scout hero...
126 - Captured the reds' Inferno secondary hero...collected some resources and scouted another 1 exit to the

treasure zone...
127 - Captured a chest and resources... Refilled mana.. Built up the castle in the Main town.. In the newly scouted treasure zone

noticed 2 Pandora's Boxes
131 - Kyrre killed our scout... Shakti breaks through the guard into the treasure zone and takes a Pandora's Box guarded by 88 Pegasi

:( .. -30 Troglodytes.. but +25 Evil Eyes :) from the Pandora's Box.. Kill the reds' scout hero..
132 - Kyrre killed 2 of our scouts :(... Scouted Boots of Speed guarded by up to 99 Genies.. even though troops are few and

mana for only 1 Haste I decided to take them... Because Logistics is only basic.. -27 Troglodytes :(
133 - Took a Pandora's Box guarded by 47 Pit Fiends ... +10000 exp .. + a Pandora's Box and a Prison.. in the Prison Gurnisson level

10.. didn't take the Pandora's Box couldn't reach it.. Noticed Isra with 160 Skeletons and 23 Archers... Transferred troops

and artifacts to Gurni and he killed the Necromancer...
134.. Gundula with 8 Cavalry +23 Zealots + 25 Archers + 17 Griffins + 50 Pikemen.. attacked

Gurnisson.. aaaaah :( .. traded.. 75 Troglodytes +25 Evil Eyes for 7 Cavalry +10 Archers :) .. Took

a Pandora's Box for 5000 exp.. Bought back Gurnisson with 13 Evil Eyes.. transferred another 14 Evil Eyes and 60 Troglodytes.. and

Shakti ran through the treasure zone :) :)
135 - Killed the reds' Kyrre.. found an external Manticore dwelling :) ...Captured the guard of a Hive.. but didn't take it..

nothing to take it with... in the castle there are 9 Manticores not bought +13 Minotaurs +20 Medusas + 18 Storm Elementals and 18 Ice Elementals but

nothing to buy them with...
136 - Took the reds' external Red Dragon dwelling guarded by 90 Golems + bought the dragon + took an external Manticore dwelling guarded by 45

Cerberi + bought 2 Manticores...
137 - Killed Gurnisson :( ... Captured a gold mine guarded by 25 Liches...
141 - Bought a dragon and 2 Manticores from the dwellings and captured a Hive guarded by 70 Pit Fiends .. but miscalculated and

lost 1 dragon (2 health short) .. at this stage of the game a terrible loss for me :( +6 Wyverns

from the hive..
142 - Took a max Hive +12 Wyverns .. now 18 Wyverns...
143 - Transferred another 11 Manticores and broke through a Pandora's Box guarded by 120 Storm Elementals.. gave +15000 gold... Cool :)
144 - Transferred 19 Minotaurs + 14 Evil Eyes + 70 Troglodytes and took a minor Utopia... gave Breastplate +4+4 and
Sphere of Air...
145 - Bought everything down to 0 and ran to capture the reds' capital...
146 - Our Tazar was killed... Shakti captured the reds' capital with troops bought down to 0.. Killed
a scout hero with 6 Monks...
147 - Left 30 Harpies in the castle and Shakti stood at the stables.. planning to split on 211 and buy back
in the Inferno and from there into the treasure zone..
211 - Did as planned :) .. ran ahead.. split.. bought back.. transferred.. and
broke through the guard of the passage into the treasure zone.. :)
212 - Transferred 7 Manticores +6 Minotaurs +8 Medusas and took a Hive +6 Wyverns + captured a Sword +6 attack guarded by 70 Medusas and
a Hat +4+4 Power and Knowledge guarded by 170! Pegasi.. Lost 1 Manticore.. they moved first :)
213 - Captured a Ring +1+1 attack and defense + took a Hive for 6 Wyverns...
214 - Our scout was killed.. but he managed to visit the view... Deessa ran into the underground treasure zone...
Took a Pendant +3+3 luck and morale guarded by 22 Bone Dragons + a Hive for 6 + a Hive for 8 + 10000 gold from
a Pandora's Box guarded by 38 Giants (9 of them Titans :( ) .. Took a Utopia with 3 Black Dragons.. gave Sword +5 to
all + Chalice +6 to all + Titan's Hat + Flask +2 health...
215 - took 2 Cyclops Dens and the treasure zone ended... broke through upstairs right at the Conflux respawn.. from where
it's a stone's throw to the last spotted treasure zone..
216 - Captured an external Air Elemental dwelling.. +1 defense.... Shakti is already standing at the border of the treasure zone...
217 - Drove off our Jezhdit with Castle growth.. and reduced the reds by 1 Angel and 2 Wyverns...+8
Wyverns from the hive.. + Ring +1 speed..
221 - +6..+4 Wyverns from the hives +2 to all from the University + Ring +1 health and Elixir assembled :) .. +
a Red Orb... now nothing can stop us!!!
222 - +1 Angel from the dwelling
223 - +1 Angel from the dwelling
224 - captured Angel Feather Arrows ...
225 - Deessa took back her castle...Take a Utopia with 3 Black Dragons .. gave a Shield +12-3 and junk...
Capture a bowstring for the Sniper's Bow using a scout hero :) ..
226 - +2 attack in the arena + captured a Gladius ...
227 - Deessa is standing near our castle ..
231 - Deessa captured our castle...Split with a buyback in the Conflux...
232 - Deessa jumps into that treasure zone I already cleared.. a megabattle of scout heroes happens there :) ..
Roland with 12 Centaurs and 5 Dwarves .. against Vey with 6 Gogs :) Our scout hero-Vey valiantly defeats
the enemy :) .. Kill our own growth from the respawn bought by the reds and recapture our castle...
233 - Build the 4th guild .. a curse :( .. Deessa improves stats visiting University and arenas..
234 - Took a Cyclops Den and built Flight .. Hurray! at least some control...
235 - Learned Flight and ran to capture the reds' castles :)
236 - Entered the Dungeon to refill mana
237 - Doubled mana... captured a couple of resources and back to the castle.. so the reds don't capture it on day
1...
241 - 2 hexes short of reaching Deessa holed up in Inferno through Flight :( .. Break through GO and run to
the enemy....+1 attack and +1 defense from the boosters...
242 - Deessa captured our castle.. and killed a scout hero... Shakti captures the Inferno secondary hero...
243 - The reds' scout heroes recapture the Inferno secondary hero.. Shakti in turn takes out 3 red scout heroes and
takes Inferno back..
244 - Kill another 1 red scout hero .. and repel an attack on the Conflux.. attacked by 2 Angels + 2 Cavalry +18
Lizardmen and others.. against 25 Storm Elementals and 65 Sprites in the castle.. but + 2 Lightning Bolts for 110 .. and the reds
bought back :)...
245 - run to the reds' castle.. because the Grail is there :) .. We occupy it and will collect the 150%
Castle growth.... +Archangels are also built...
246 - The tactic was to capture the Human castle with the Grail and hole up there + collect Archangels and Champions..But we decided not to drag it out and a draw..We attack Deessa... Decided it would be a draw and for fun had a fight.. but 30 Archangels is brutal :)... Shakti 27-41-0-0 28 Manticores + 59 Wyverns + 42 Storm Elementals + 25 Water Elementals+ 30 Medusas + 2 Angels +29 Minotaurs .. expert attack+defense + Sniper's Bow.. against Deessa 27-19-0-0 30 Archangels!!! Brutal :) + 43 Champions! +60 Fanatics + 35 Wyverns + 47 Crusaders + 65 Archers.. About 6 Archangels survived + all Wyverns and 41 Champions +27 Fanatics :)

Thanks for the mega interesting battle :)

Tournament "FB-2"
Piterius (red, Castle, Valeska, Dessa) draw Aldegir(blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti)2SM4d(3) 246 ;

Thanks for the mega-interesting battle :)

It spawned a huge respawn, no money issues, quickly bought 8 heroes and shuttled the army back and forth. The last one I bought was the necromancer Isra and decided to help out a bit, which noticeably affected the game's duration. In the second week, I fought on two fronts, maybe even three, all while earning back gold and leveling everyone up. There was no clear leader, so when Shakti appeared near Inferno's secondary heroes, I didn't dare attack.
But the efforts in exploring territory and scouting weren't in vain. On the first week, I built cavalry in the Castle; on the second, I flagged 2 external Zealot dwellings, built them up along with Griffins, and captured 2 secondary heroes — a Barbarian and an Inferno hero.
At the start of the third week, I watched Shakti's rampage in the treasure zone, opened a stable third front with Skeletons, and Dessa ran to the Griffin Conservatory in the far corner of the respawn. Just as she was about to take it, Gurney showed up and killed the Skeletons with 23 Archers. Nearby Gundula got some power and retaliated as best she could. The trade was indeed not in my favor, and the Conservatory was left with just one health point :(
In short, I hung around on my own respawn until the end of the third week and barely managed to build Angels, chasing the scouts off my land. Overall, I want to say that starting from the third week, the game became strictly contact-based — I can't even remember the last time there were so many fights in a single game.
After the unsuccessful trade, the blue player started mentally wearing me down, boasting about an abundance of Hives, an external Manticore dwelling, Dragons, and two Dragon Utopias. But I also saw 2 Dragon Utopias, and what's more, 4 Angels on week 141 warmed my heart.
On the fourth week, I take a couple of Hives for a total of 12 ducks; the blue player already has 18, as they inform me :)
I dive into the treasure zone on Lava, spot an external Cavalry dwelling, then another — life is getting better. I take a couple of Pandora's Boxes for experience and the entire fourth underground level, and run down practically across the entire map to a highlighted Dragon Utopia from the Barbarian respawn. The blue player takes their native utopia and offers me a surrender. But we manage to flag an external Angel dwelling on week 147 and see yet another one! Why would I surrender then?
The fifth week was marked by power-ups and more skirmishes with weak stacks in the struggle for space. I finally took a Dragon Utopia — only +2 to All Stats from the parameters, no control. I run back across the entire map upwards to the four spotted Pandora's Boxes; meanwhile, the blue player persistently threatens with 70 Wyverns, 30 Minotaurs, and 30 Manticores, offering unconditional surrender, backed by impressive stats and an Elixir. But I still have hope for the Pandora's Boxes and the untaken Dragon Utopia, even though my stats are 10-10 against their 28-27 — all hope rests on Dessa's frenzied Cavalry :D
Sixth week — Griffin Conservatory, Hives, Pandora's Boxes — sadly, no magic, but there's a Cap of the Fifth! There it is! Maneuvers immediately became more impressive! I retake my native town, capture a Dragon Utopia — junk again, but 30k gold. On week 227, I'm just a few hexes short of reaching the blue capital. I'm still behind in stats and army, but control is exactly what the blue player can't boast about! Inspired, I offer a draw, since Dessa is much more mobile and the main goal is not to get caught out. I get an offer to keep running.
Seventh week — I take the Dungeon, kill the spawn. I dig for the Grail — turns out it was right next to the castle! I build Archers, stroll through the already scorched treasure zone, level up a bit, reveal obelisks with weaklings :) , capture 2 external Angel dwellings from the blue player! I clear all the remaining gold-producing structures on the map — on week 241, there will be a growth of 9 Archers and 10 Champions!
Having bought all of that, I crush the weaklings with the remains of un-upgraded Cavalry and Angels and see that my army is now stronger! I get agreement on a draw, but start thinking a bit :smile10: Still, 30 Archers and 40+ Champions, even without armor and with a stat disadvantage, is a decent force. I try by any means necessary to distract Shakti from marching on my home, to strengthen a bit more by week 311, but after beating my sacrificial weaklings and twice recapturing the Inferno secondary hero, he still intends to reach me on week 247. I have a dilemma — hole up in the castle and accept the fight, or hope he doesn't have the control to reach me, and meanwhile take his Conflux and +3 Attack. If he does hole up, it's definitely a draw; if not, I might even win. Even though Shakti threatened me with a Chupa Chups, I was still afraid of Berserk, and after thinking it over, I agree to a draw. We fought a bit for appearances, of course, since we'd been playing for almost 24 hours total. Right at the start, Oleg says it's essentially my loss, that his stacks deal way too much damage in a test fight against Wights. And the Manticores frozen my Swords with their first strike, while the Medusas retaliated against the Wyverns. But 30 Archers is 30 Archers — together with the Champions, they did the job properly; I didn't even expect almost half the army to survive :D
In the end, we parted with a draw, but each thought they could have won :D Still, a draw is probably the fairest outcome in such an interesting game.

Thanks for the game!

I noticed that in the first post, players Mizrael and numOne have the same ICQ number. Until now, I've been contacting numOne using that number. How can I contact Mizrael?

I noticed that in the first post, players Mizrael and numOne have the same ICQ number. I've been contacting numOne using that number. How can I contact Mizrael?

Thank you for pointing that out!
I've corrected it:smile26:

Mizrael's ICQ is 27384379.

Asked to write predictions for this tournament.

AliaSmehova 4.00
Pit for LM 6.00
Mizrael 7.00
Javdet 7.00
LeBron 7.50
Medium_HP 8.50
Piterius 9.00
Aldegir 10.00
numOne 12.00
Wlk777 17.00

Before the best, the odds would definitely have been even worse for me =). Why some players have twice the chances compared to mine is completely unclear :confused:. Regarding the first place, it's unlikely, but I think they unfairly placed me in last place =), and numOne in second to last. The evaluators are something else.

suggest your odds :) at the end, we'll compare them with Tolyan's.

suggest your odds :) we'll compare them with Tolyan's at the end

I don't like making predictions, especially in games like Heroes 3 where the outcome depends on the map generation almost as much as in poker. But I've already shared my opinion - Anatoly's odds seem quite strange (at least from my point of view). I think that no more than 2-3 people will end up in the places according to his prediction, maybe another 2-3 will be close, and the rest will be completely different.
P.S. It's a pity he didn't make predictions for the best players; we would definitely have a good laugh at the end.

But I have expressed my opinion – the coefficients presented by Anatoly are rather strange (at least from my point of view). I think that no more than 2-3 people will take the places according to his forecast.

Quote from Lyubimchikov 2

Coefficients for matches at Kosti's request:

Wlk777 (Dungeon) - Medium_HP (Conflux) see 2.40-1.52
Pit for LM (Conflux) - Mizrael (Castle) see 1.5-2.45
Dirty_Player (Inferno) - AYMAN (Dungeon) see 1.40-2.75 Dirty withdrew
Keba (Conflux) - KobRa_RR (Necropolis) see 2.9-1.37
bRitvo4kA (Necropolis) - AliaSmehova (Dungeon) see 4.6-1.15
Kluka (Dungeon) - SEM_56 (Rampart) see 2.2-1.65
~no1_knows_me~ (Stronghold) - Javdet (Rampart) see 2.75-1.40

Valentina's comment on this

The very first game showed how questionable these coefficients were. Some of the others seem rather strange to me.

The first game was Kluka (Dungeon) - SEM_56 (Rampart) see 2.2-1.65
Kluka won. (with approximately equal coefficients)
That is, the remaining coefficients for the matches seemed strange to the respected Valentina. One match was canceled (i.e., the match was called off) at Kosti's request. The other 5 matches were played, and those who won are highlighted in bold. All the favorites won against their opponents. I would like to know which coefficients were considered strange then, and in this tournament, I think everyone would be interested.

I think that no more than 2-3 people will take the places according to his prediction, maybe another 2-3 will be close, and the rest will be completely different.

I think it's time to end this debate. I've expressed my opinion, and we'll see who's right no later than June 14th.

Javdet (red, Castle, Valeska, Charna) def Wlk777 (blue, Fortress, Wystan, Wystan)), panic 136

Got the desired Castle, plus the opponent chose to restart, thereby giving me the opportunity to dig up Necro. On the 2nd generation, I didn't even have to dig - Charna was in the tavern immediately. 2 stacks of griffins, 1 of swords, griffins with horses at home in the Citadel, though I blundered by losing 2 horses to a scout hero, but nothing fatal.
On 127, Wystan showed up at my respawn; we greet him warmly - he buys himself out with 20 lizardmen.
Spent the entire 3rd week traveling to visit; found no castle there, just a Citadel - I attack.
52 gr. lizardmen, 3 gorgons, 8 basilisks, 4 wyverns, 4 gr. serpents with stats 3-8-5-8 vs 256 skeletons, 6 champions, 39 crossbowmen, 19 paladins, 9 upg. monks, 25 marksmen, and 61 pikemen. Charna 10-6-5-5.
The battle wasn't difficult because the tower was destroyed by Tsunami in the very first round. First, I kill the serpents in case of a draw. Then I just waited for the gate to break; in the meantime, Wystan was doing good work shooting with the bow and lightning, but he surrendered when the skeletons with Animate Dead got inside.

Thanks for the game.

Javdet (red, Castle, Valeska, Crag Hack) def Wlk777 (blue, Fortress, Wystan, Wystan)), 2sm4d(3), panic

It happened. Started off well — on day 1, native dwelling (close to 100 golems and nearly 40 magma elements), scouted 2 Griffin Conservatories, an external dwelling of cows on the secondary. But necromancers were not given, and the opponent's scouting necro heroes forced the tempo, but on day 27 with almost 300 skeletons I couldn't handle it. Probably shouldn't have rushed and should have leveled Earth Magic up to Mass Slow. In panic, necro strategy dominates. Thanks for the game.

I think that in the future, the number of Necromancers available in Panic mode should be limited – otherwise, it becomes a lottery: one player gets a Necromancer, another doesn’t.

I think that in the future, the number of Necromancers available in the panic mode should be limited – otherwise, it becomes a lottery: one player gets a Necromancer, another doesn't.

I also wanted to say this, but I was afraid of criticism, to be honest.

I also wanted to say that, but I was afraid of criticism, to be honest.

That's right, you're learning. :D

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