Which main hero did you like the least? — General

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16 years ago

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No, he should have at least been upset. Personally, if I were killing a friend, I would AT LEAST say a few more friendly words. And in general, I wouldn't kill a friend! Besides, if Faidaen wanted what was best for the country, he wouldn't act like a maniac, but would actually defend it. As soon as he sees someone's squad, he immediately draws his sword. What a diplomat! In the end, Zehir had to calm down the excited elf. And what about Isabel's fate? He doesn't look like an elf at all there. No, I'm not saying he should be handing out flowers to everyone and always be polite, but this is too much.
And I would send Izi away myself. How much trouble she has caused, and she hasn't learned anything. She thinks she's brave, but in reality, someone else is just doing all the work for her. However, now no one will send her anywhere, as long as Railag is with her.

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Bladen

16 years ago

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I didn't like Kha-Belekh; his specialization is a bit weak for a ruler.

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16 years ago

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I can’t say anything about that… I didn’t get a chance to play as him properly.

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Bladen

16 years ago

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That's true, but I've already played with it a lot in the editor. It's not very specialized, it suits Agrail well, but not the Warlord.

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Divinora

16 years ago

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Forest Flower

No, he should have at least shown some regret. Personally, if I were killing a friend, I would at least say a few more kind words. But in general, I wouldn't kill a friend! Besides, if Faidaen wanted what was best for the country, he wouldn't act like a maniac, but would actually protect it. As soon as he sees someone's army, he immediately draws his sword. What kind of diplomat is that! Zehir had to calm the heated elf in the end. And what about Isabel's fate? He doesn't look like an elf at all. No, I'm not saying he should be handing out flowers to everyone and always be polite, but this is too much.
And I would send Izi away myself. She has caused so much trouble, and she hasn't learned anything. She thinks she's brave, but in reality, someone else does all the work for her. However, now no one will send her anywhere, as long as Railag is with her.

Forest Flower, you are simply an amazing girl, if you didn't kill a friend who devastated your homeland and is ready to finish you off... And I don't see the point in saying kind words. If Nikolasha is of sound mind and memory, why did he lead an army against his best friend? If his mind is enslaved and he doesn't understand anything, then all his words are a farce, and he is using the question about his fate to evoke pity for his own benefit. And his consciousness somehow selectively awakens... What an inconsistent vampire, I swear!

I attribute hot-headedness to evolution – along with aggression, musculature, etc.
IMHO, not trusting anyone but yourself is normal, especially in such a turbulent time, especially when it comes to dark elves)))

And I already wrote about Isabel's fate – with his statements about this madam, Faidaen won me over))) If they had left this queen in Shio, as he advised, the Griffin Empire would have avoided many problems.

Oh, I feel like I'm acting like the devil's advocate))))

Саня Изи

16 years ago

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Personally, I dislike Markel. He's an annoying old man. Although I play as a Necromancer, and his ability is decent, his behavior is inconsistent with how a proper Necromancer should act. Not only was he a former gardener, but he appeared out of nowhere, acting like a thief, and he's friends with the Haven faction. To hell with him, and let other Necromancers give him a hard time!

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16 years ago

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Forest Flower, you are an amazing girl, but if you weren't going to kill a friend who ravaged your homeland and is ready to finish you off… I don't see the point in saying kind words. If Nikolasha is of sound mind and memory, why did he lead an army against his best friend? If his mind is enslaved and he doesn't understand anything, then all his words are a farce, and he is trying to evoke pity for his own benefit. And his consciousness somehow selectively awakens… What an inconsistent vampire, I swear!

I attribute impulsiveness to evolution – along with aggression, musculature, etc.
In my opinion, not trusting anyone but yourself is normal, especially in such a turbulent time, especially for Dark Elves.

And about Isabel's fate, I already wrote – with his statements about this Madame Faydaen, he won me over. If they had left this queen in Shio, as he advised, the Griffin Empire would have avoided many problems.

Oh, I feel like I'm playing devil's advocate!

No, I wouldn't want such a rude and short-sighted elf as a friend. He can't see beyond his own nose. What annoys me most is that he cowardly hides behind harmony and constantly excuses himself, although he has already violated many elven laws.

Personally, I disliked Markel. A disgusting old man. Although I play as Necromancer myself, and his ability is quite decent, his behavior is not comparable to how a decent Necromancer should behave. Not only was he a former gardener, he appeared from nowhere, like a thief, and is friends with the Order. To hell with him, and let other Necromancers kick him around!

Markel played his role perfectly. Necromancers think about profit. They are cold and calculating. He was friends with the Empire only for his own benefit. Besides, he is not such a Necromancer. He used to be a cunning advisor at the court in Griffin, and then he left.

Свет есть даже там, где только тьма.

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Divinora

16 years ago

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Forest Flower

No, I wouldn't want such a rude and unintelligent elf as a friend. He can't see beyond his own nose. What bothers me most is that he cowardly hides behind harmony and constantly justifies himself, even though he has already broken many elven laws.

Well, I wouldn't want him as a friend either; he would look much better as a lover;)

Meanwhile, I replayed the original version of Heroes... And, I must say, I was a little disappointed. I didn't see that evil Faidan there, whom I so fiercely defended. There is absolutely nothing "rude and unintelligent" about him. He is stern – and that's a compliment, in my opinion. So, it all depends on the angle from which you look at the world. You can also think like this (a link from a well-known resource):

"The vampire lord, formerly known as Nikolai Griffon in life, dejectedly met the elven army at the entrance to his fortified camp. "Old friend," he quietly greeted Findan. "You've come for my life, haven't you? Well, take it... But what will happen to my soul? It has been torn from Elrat's control, and I am now cursed." Findan gazed sadly at his old comrade, with whom he had become friends during the years he spent as Irollan's ambassador to the Empire.

"I don't know," Findan shook his head. "But I must kill you." "Well, thank you for that," replied the unfortunate vampire lord, spreading his arms wide. Here, far from Markal, he could still barely maintain control over his actions.

"There is truly no harmony left in Ashan if an old ally thanks me for the fact that I am going to kill him," Findan whispered, fighting back the lump in his throat. "Oh, Thieru. This will be harder than even you imagined." With a heavy heart, Findan gave the order to the phoenixes that followed him at the forefront of the army, and they turned Nikolai Griffon to ashes with all-consuming flames. Did they grant him peace, or is his cursed soul doomed to wander eternally in the mortal world? Findan sincerely hoped for the former..."

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16 years ago

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I didn't notice anything in the game that suggested he was sad. If he spoke so indifferently to his friend and then just killed him!

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Divinora

16 years ago

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I agree, the latest version is clearly overdone. But after carefully reviewing (or rather, listening to – the faces there don't really express anything), it seemed to me that there was something like sympathy, regret, sadness... It's not very noticeable in the intonation; the voice is expressive, but at the same time quite even (without straining, without switching to a whisper), but based on the text, one can draw such a conclusion. Here's another thing... The possibilities of "cartoons" are very limited. For example, here (from the same place as in the previous post):

"King Alaron, together with a small group of surviving elven warriors, defended the central city square from the hordes of undead attacking them. It seemed that there was no hope, but then a clear sound of a horn rang out, and graceful emerald dragons soared above the half-ruined walls of Cyris Tally. Tears stood in the old king's eyes: Findan had corrected his mistake, and now, perhaps, there was still hope for Irollan...

But not for him. Alaron knew perfectly well that his wounds were fatal. It was bitter to die like this, among the ruins of his own country, not knowing whether it was destined to be reborn or to become an eternal Asylum for restless dead. With unyielding lips, Alaron whispered his last order to Findan, both as a monarch and as an elf: "No forces of Ashan will now be enough to protect our Irollan! Therefore, do what I myself was afraid to do – find the wise Tieru on the islands of Dragon Mist, in the Iriuss Sea. He is the only one who may know the secret of the final victory over Ka-Belet... And I will go to the halls of Silanna..."

I didn't immediately understand that Alaron (who is definitely not normal!!!) ordered himself to be put to rest... I'm not an elf, so I don't know what the halls of Silanna are – maybe it's some kind of Temple, and he went there to pray))) Or, in the video, he stood there so cheerfully that you wouldn't think he was mortally wounded. And the voice didn't really sound like a death rattle.

What am I getting at? The point is that maybe Faidaen really had a lump in his throat and a meager elven tear welled up when he killed Nicholas, but we just didn't see it. Although I prefer to think that he killed him with a cool head)))

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16 years ago

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To be honest, I didn't like the fire sprites faction in the game. They are real bores. First, Gilraen, and then Faidaen. They portrayed the elves in a way that I didn't imagine. The only one I liked was Tieru. He has a sense of humor, is wise, and not pompous. He doesn't bore you by repeating the words "Harmony, harmony, harmony...". He loves his country and is loyal to his dragon, but he doesn't kill everyone he can.

Свет есть даже там, где только тьма.

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Divinora

16 years ago

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Much has already been said about the developers' special "affection" for the light-skinned elves. I think this is what explains the obvious quirks of the elves – the completely inadequate Alaron, their striving for some mythical harmony, and so on. If we talk about portraits, many of them are, frankly, rather unattractive. This is despite the fact that in my opinion, they should be divinely beautiful. Anwen is indistinguishable from a man, Gilraen looks hunched and unpleasant, and Ossir completely finished me off – she's some kind of stern blonde :) It's strange that they didn't spoil Faeldaen, on the contrary...

But! If we set aside all this fluff, I really liked the elves – more than anyone else in Heroes 5.

P.S. Tieru is excellent!

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16 years ago

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Probably that’s why we’ll never come to an agreement! XD I love dark elves. And usually, those who like light elves don’t like those who like dark elves.

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And also, where did you get the information? About Alaron, for example? Please tell me. It’s very interesting!

Свет есть даже там, где только тьма.

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Divinora

16 years ago

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Forest Flower

That's probably why we'll never agree! XD I love dark elves. And it usually happens that those who love light elves don't like those who love dark elves.

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And also, where did you get the information? About Alaron, for example? Please tell me. It's very interesting!

That's true))) But that's a good thing, to each their own... Imagine if everyone was singing praises to Railag or Faidaen in unison))) Horrible!

Here's the link:
http://demilich.250x.com/mm/mm_01.htm
If I'm not mistaken, I found it somewhere on this forum...