Favorite hero from Dungeon. — Dungeon

Mdance

16 years ago

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Ingvar the Tall

Ha ha ha, antonag07 - you're quite the master of sarcasm! Nur took the Swamp on the first week with 3-4 grams. Heh - REPLAY IN THE STUDIO!!!!

And you, sir, are quite the master of disbelief and gaming ignorance? You should listen to the opinions of more experienced players. There are two options to choose from: with Skilled Light Magic and without it. Nur is because mana never runs out. And in general, learn your stuff.

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Я видел, как Небо окутала Тьма, и Небо смирилось с Судьбой,
Горящие реки сходили с ума, пытаясь остаться водой,
Земля пропустила коварный удар, раскрывшись на шаге вперёд,
Взлетел разъярённым драконом Огонь и понял, что тоже умрёт...

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Ингвар Высокий

16 years ago

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Could you please share a strategy – and what does it mean that "light will help"? What exactly should help? Which spell? Please explain...

I never knew how to play as the Dungeon faction and I don't understand how it's possible to defeat a Fortress with 3 Fury units – share a strategy, explain...

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Mdance

16 years ago

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Ingvar Vysokiy

Wouldn't it be helpful to post a strategy – and what does “light will help” mean? What exactly should help? Which spell? Explain… please.

And replays, I wonder, are they for whom? :smile31:

Ingvar Vysokiy

I never knew how to play Tower of Elements and don’t understand how you can defeat the Swamp with 3 Furies – post a strategy, explain...

Let me explain step by step.
1. The AI interacts very poorly with summoned objects. Therefore, the Furies are placed in the corners. One of them will be surrounded by Crystals through one cell. A third is needed as insurance – to take damage from one of the dragons so that the corner Fury isn’t killed immediately.
The encirclement goes according to this scheme:

2. After such placement, the "large" units get confused and stand still. Because there is no point in attacking the Crystal, and they physically cannot fly up to the last Fury.
3. Approximately the same thing can be done using Wall of Swords.

4. In the case of Nura, Battle Discipline and Regeneration are used. Again, two Gremlins are placed in the corners. Regeneration is cast on the stack being attacked by the least initiative-having dragons – Black or Twilight. The Gremlins constantly wait. Then it's just a matter of technique. Regeneration is renewed, and all the dragons are gradually destroyed.
5. An exotic option based on the same principle – Wall of Fire and two Obsidian Golems.

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Я видел, как Небо окутала Тьма, и Небо смирилось с Судьбой,
Горящие реки сходили с ума, пытаясь остаться водой,
Земля пропустила коварный удар, раскрывшись на шаге вперёд,
Взлетел разъярённым драконом Огонь и понял, что тоже умрёт...

Ингвар Высокий

16 years ago

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What patch are you using? In 3.1, it doesn't lag anymore.

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You should play as Razazak instead of Nurai – the chance of him casting Protection is only 2%.

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But thanks for the advice, I need to try it! Thanks!

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Mdance

16 years ago

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Ingvar Vysokiy

What patch are you using? In 3.1, they don't lag like that anymore :(

It's exactly in 3.1 that they lag like that. In 3.0, they immediately rushed Crystal as if it were the enemy and got a beating as a group :D

Ingvar Vysokiy

It's better to play with Razazak then, rather than with Nurah - the chance of catching the protection skill is only 2%

Razazak won't have enough mana for such "feats" - the battles are very long.
The protection skill is difficult to get, but not impossible - you just need to immediately "level up" to Skilled Sorcery and the racial skill at the beginning. Then, in the "left" two fields, they will give 2 new skills each time. And until they give what you need, only take perks in the "right" fields - in Sorcery and the racial skill.

Я видел, как Небо окутала Тьма, и Небо смирилось с Судьбой,
Горящие реки сходили с ума, пытаясь остаться водой,
Земля пропустила коварный удар, раскрывшись на шаге вперёд,
Взлетел разъярённым драконом Огонь и понял, что тоже умрёт...

Ингвар Высокий

16 years ago

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Yeah... that's rough... but okay! Thanks – you've opened my eyes... and you?

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antonag07

16 years ago

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Ingvar the Tall

Yeah... that's rough... but okay! Thanks - you've opened my eyes... and you

We know, we know - we're geniuses, no applause needed!
But seriously, I hope your arsenal will now expand, and in addition to Hafiz, there will also be room for other heroes - they (the heroes ;) ) deserve it.

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Ингвар Высокий

16 years ago

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Unfortunately, I don't think so... because clearing the top is not yet a victory in the game. :smile30:

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Mdance

16 years ago

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Ingvar the Tall

Unfortunately, I don't think so... because clearing the Swamp is not yet a victory in the game. :smile30:

Early clearing is a serious claim to victory. :smile02:
Due to many factors.
1. If a hero is capable of clearing the Swamp, it means he can also clear his own territory without problems and break through to the opponent, who simply doesn't expect the opponent to arrive so early and is not ready for the encounter.
2. Clearing the Swamp means acquiring powerful artifacts and high-level spells, which the opponent simply won't have, because building a Guild to level 5 is quite problematic in the early stages.
3. In addition, this also provides gold for buying an army.

Я видел, как Небо окутала Тьма, и Небо смирилось с Судьбой,
Горящие реки сходили с ума, пытаясь остаться водой,
Земля пропустила коварный удар, раскрывшись на шаге вперёд,
Взлетел разъярённым драконом Огонь и понял, что тоже умрёт...

Ингвар Высокий

16 years ago

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But the thing is, a hero isn't just a hero – it's also about magic! I disagree with point 1! – it's just a way to get more powerful creatures! What about mages, archers, vampires...? In the final stage, the swamp is crucial... but still, I don't think you can clear the swamp in 1 week – maybe 2 – it also depends on the map. Well, never mind – thank you for the advice, but it seems a bit too elaborate to me... It all depends on luck – whether it works out or not... What units will be available, etc.

Ereb

16 years ago

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Yeah, replays... I heard that it's possible, and I read about it on the online tournament forum. If you could tell me, as a not-so-experienced player (judging by the replays), how to do something like that in 3.0, what are the tricks (how does the AI behave?), and if possible, about Razazak and golems with a wall, I would be grateful!

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I found an article on the playground describing the 3.1 patches, in both Russian and English. In the Russian version, it says that the AI no longer ignores summoned creatures, while in the English version, it says the AI ignores summoned creatures, which is the opposite!

За кланы! За кровь!

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Mdance

16 years ago

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I'm telling you, Razazak will simply run out of mana.
But here's Nura.
Just level up her Wisdom and find a Fireball spell somewhere. And the Fireball's damage should be at least 40.
The replay is in the mages thread.

Я видел, как Небо окутала Тьма, и Небо смирилось с Судьбой,
Горящие реки сходили с ума, пытаясь остаться водой,
Земля пропустила коварный удар, раскрывшись на шаге вперёд,
Взлетел разъярённым драконом Огонь и понял, что тоже умрёт...

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Ингвар Высокий

16 years ago

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Could you try to catch a summon with a net and find a crystal of secrecy in the school – then you could try it with 3 Fury units?

But this is great! Super – nothing else to say – clearing the swamp early is a big step towards victory...

Ereb

16 years ago

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Of course, 20 gold pieces is nothing to sneeze at!

За кланы! За кровь!

Саня Изи

16 years ago

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People here are just messing around. Compared to them, I'm just a complete newbie.

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Now I tried taking Utopia with Nuara on the first week. And I succeeded! The dragons behaved very stupidly, but that's just a bug. It's not just Nuara; anyone can take it if they have a Secret Crystal or a Wall of Swords. It's unbelievable! You can eliminate any foot soldiers this way; I wonder what the developers are looking at.

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Ingvar Vysokiy

Could you try using Nuara to capture a summoning creature and then find a Secret Crystal in the school? Then you could try it with 3 Furies?
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The Secret Crystal is a second-level spell, and summoning isn't required. That is, you can confidently say that if it appears in the guild and the area is cleared, it's a done deal. And not just that area. It's the ultimate cheat, or even a bug, I'd say:smile03: