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Has anyone tried to calculate the maximum damage that can be inflicted with an explosion under ideal circumstances in a single battle? Let's say magic power and knowledge are both 99, an Earth expert, plus a sphere, and expert-level magic (or magical earth). Let's say, for example, that an enemy unit is standing in a corner, blocked by its own blinded units. We start bombarding it with explosions until we run out of mana. And what would the total damage be? P.S. Inspired by comments about the map "Unleashing the Bloodthirsty." One foreign player writes about how he won the final battle (7 stacks of 9999 various dragons - azure, rusty, crystal, fairytale) with ONE azure dragon. He says he equipped the "Power of the Dragon Father" to prevent the fairytale dragons from attacking, and then alternately used "Berserk" and "Force Field." Practice shows that inevitably one of the stacks remains, usually azure dragons, with a size of 2-3 thousand. How do you finish them off? Especially since a considerable amount of mana is spent on "Berserk" + "Force Field." P.P.S. Of course, there was a vulnerability medal.
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Mana. Max Knowledge + Intelligence + external whirlpool + Dungeon whirlpool. 99*10*2*2*2=7920 99*10*2*2=3960, and that's only the physical maximum. A hero can be a specialist in Intelligence, so this isn't the limit.

Fireball. Max Attack + Expert Earth + Expert Magic + buffs. (99*75+300)*1,15*1,5 = 13325
If you consider that a hero can be a specialist in Magic, then the number will increase.

So I don't see any problems with killing it. ;)
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Dirty_Player
Whirlpool (outer) + Whirlpool (in the Dungeon).
And do they multiply? I learn something new every day :) ...
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
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Outer vortex + vortex in the dungeon.

Wlk777
And do they multiply? I learn something new every day :) ...


Wow, I didn't know that, thanks! +1!
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Regarding the infinity of mana – it’s nonsense. If the mana is already doubled in an external source, visiting the Dungeon won’t give anything. The same applies to adding it in events and Pandora’s boxes. I just checked – I placed a hero, increased experience, intelligence, and knowledge to 99, and went into the Dungeon, resulting in 3960 mana.
Then, I opened a Pandora’s box, which supposedly gives 999 mana, and…
It subtracted all the mana exceeding 999 :), leaving only 999. That’s how it works…
You can only get more than 3960 mana if you have a specialist in intelligence (like Eleazar); at level 88, he had about 12600 mana. I couldn’t reach a higher level this time, although my record level is 32767. After level 75, adding experience causes strange effects, and I haven’t figured out the patterns.
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The highest possible hero level in the game is 108.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Please forgive me for the nonsense I wrote. The thing is, the vortex and the source have properties – they give double the amount of mana, based on the maximum value, and don't just double it. Often in games, I had 3960 mana. That's the number that stuck with me. But I wrote some nonsense around the New Year :D. So, the moral of the story is – don't believe everything you hear. Check things out sometimes ;)

And the fact that events/Pandora's Boxes don't add more than 999 mana is really strange. I didn't know that at all. So, the day wasn't wasted :D. Although the evening should be fun too :D
Lider1
The record-maximum level for a hero in the game is 108 ;)
Here, if you believe the research, there is no limit. You just need the exact amount of experience, down to the last unit, to level up. And I definitely had something like 35000+. Imagine how Kirr runs around? :)
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How do you finish them off then!? Especially since Berserk + Power Field consumes a lot of mana.
Well, if only one stack of Azure Dragons remains, then nothing else is needed besides one Berserk and some offensive spells :)
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The level limit is 32767; I saw it myself. After that, it goes into negative values because the most significant bit of the 16-bit value is interpreted as a sign. That is, numbers from 32768 to 65535 are considered negative. The same thing happens with experience, only there the value is 32-bit. Regarding that battle with the dragons, in my case, knowledge was around 90, meaning total mana was about 1800. There was no intelligence because the skills were set rigidly by the mapmaker (there was no possibility to take another hero, as there are no taverns in the cities, and I couldn't reach the only tavern on the map; the passage guard required all skills to be 90, and I was just a little short, although I had overcome all the obstacles). However, people write that they were able to go to the tavern... If we consider the damage to be 13325 and the casting cost to be 23, then theoretically, the total damage is 1800/23 * 13325, which is enough for 1042 Azure Dragons, which is not enough.
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Was the berserker an expert or a regular one? If it was an expert, it should be able to eliminate a decent number of dragons in one round, especially if they are positioned to attack each other.

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One foreign player writes about how he won the final battle (7 stacks of 9999 various dragons - azure, rusty, crystal, fairy) with ONE azure dragon.
Can you provide a link?
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I don't think we need to overcomplicate things here! Just use a high-level Tazar, like level 108, plus a potion of life and a red orb. No matter how many dragons there are, they won't be able to kill him. Start the autobattle and go to sleep! In the morning, click on the level-up button :D

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AlexSpl
Well, if only one stack of Azure Dragons remains, then besides one Berserker and impact magic, nothing else is needed :)
The question is whether there will be enough mana for this impact magic. :) You can use the Titan's Thunder spell!!!!! But then we risk getting some kind of chain reaction from the magic and other creatures. But we also have our own trump cards for that!!!! Use a high-level Torgrym and don't be afraid of magic. Power Field + Berserk will leave only one stack, and then Berserk and Titan's Thunder will do the rest!!! In short, there are a million options :)
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AlexSpl
Was it an expert Berserker or a regular one? If it was an expert, it should be able to eliminate a decent number of dragons in one round, especially if you position them to attack each other.
And could you provide a link?
It was an expert Berserker; I played 20 battles, and still, a couple of thousand dragons remained.
Link:
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=5431&pagenumber=2

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Unfortunately, I don't have the save file. I have a save from a bit earlier, when the Phoenixes and the Grand Guardian Dragon hadn't been eliminated yet. I'm having trouble with the uploads; could you please tell me how to add an attachment?

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In general, to all the respected participants – I want to point out that childish attempts to play with supposedly "super-heroes" – Solmyr and others – are pointless. Rushing in the first few weeks is bad. It doesn't reveal tactics and strategy. A prolonged game, in turn, eliminates the influence of supposedly "cheating" heroes. Show me Solmyr when all my skills are at 20; his chain is useless
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My way is to assemble Power of dragon father and send heroes with only one azure dragon.
Perhaps, the intention was to use a hit-and-run tactic.
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I haven't seen the map, but one idea is that you could age the Azure Dragons with a spectral dragon. Also, during battle, you can use a destructive beam to reduce the defense of the Azure Dragons, so they can be killed faster. Another simple way is to control their numbers with expert blinding; in this case, the Azure Dragon won't respond to attacks from other dragons, and the remaining stacks will reduce the number of Azure Dragons to the desired level or eliminate them altogether.

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