"Heroes 5". But are they really "Heroes"? — General

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Yes. This is a full-fledged sequel in the series.

79% 64 votes

No. This is a pathetic parody of a great game. I fondly remember the third installment.

18.5% 15 votes

Anything but “Heroes.”

2.5% 2 votes

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Rey

19 years ago

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AlexeyPank;31989

You can’t fix everything with just one change. You need to change something else. But not by adding a new race of dwarves (why dwarves at all???), but by changing the internal content of the game. After all, the previous installments were much more well-thought-out.

Just don’t say that the fourth Heroes game was “much more well-thought-out.”
That wasn’t the case.
Honestly, aren’t you tired of complaining yet? If you don’t like it, don’t play it, as they say.

AlexeyPank

19 years ago

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I’m not nitpicking; I’m offering constructive criticism. In general, we need to distinguish between two aspects of the debate: Heroes of Might and Magic V as a game and Heroes of Might and Magic V as a continuation of the series. If we talk about the game itself, it’s made at the highest level; everything is beautiful, and everything is elaborate. But if we talk about the Heroes series, then the level is unacceptably low. This is expressed in:
1 - plagiarism of the plot
2 - claiming novelty when there is none
3 - lack of a well-thought-out connection to the past.
Therefore, I say that Heroes of Might and Magic V is a good game, but not a true Heroes game. Perhaps it should be called "heroes" 5, rather than HEROES V.

Антофак

19 years ago

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2 - a claim of novelty when there is none!
You're right, but look at the rating for Heroes 4; the public didn't accept it because of its new design, etc. The list could go on for quite a while.
The guys who created Heroes 5 simply didn't want to repeat the same mistakes.
The public wanted Heroes 3, and they got it.

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Note that there are also many new (pleasant) details, such as a new hero leveling system, new monster skills, etc.

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Серега

19 years ago

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Alex the White Wolf;29167

I think I'll disagree with you. I've been a fan of the Heroes series since the second installment, and I haven't seen anything more terrible than Heroes 4. I even thought that after Chronicles, it would be the final nail in the coffin for the series, but Heroes 5 is something else. Nival managed to bring back the spirit of the Heroes and add amazing animation. Okay, let's say the plot and multiplayer are lacking, but look at everything else! It's just colossal! I really want to see an add-on with fixes for some of the shortcomings and miscalculations, but overall, it's a solid 4 with a huge plus!

The animation is good, yes. But it became cartoonish. And there's a lot to fix!

AlexeyPank

19 years ago

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Nice little details are good. But it lacks a proper interface, and it lacks spirit. They could have simply written a text file explaining all the inconsistencies. This would take a few days if someone dedicated themselves to it. Since this wasn't done, I believe that Nival and Ubisoft are disrespecting the fans of the series by depriving them of this connection.

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ТИГРЁНОК

19 years ago

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1. Lack of artificial intelligence. 2. The price was 320 rubles (I saw it on Sunday). 3. Stupid monster models and bad music. 4. There is an editor, but I never made my own maps; I used to edit old ones. In this editor, you can only create your own maps and cannot edit old ones. 5. Academy in the Sands. 6. Complete disrespect for the fans. Therefore, I conclude that Heroes 5 is the most idiotic game in the world and the worst in the series.

AlexeyPank

19 years ago

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Still, I believe that the discussion about the fifth installment should be divided into two parts. If we go by the topic title, we shouldn’t discuss the pros and cons of the game itself, but rather discuss it from the perspective of how well it lives up to the proud name of “Heroes.” From this point of view, the fifth installment is truly below any criticism.

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Sergh

19 years ago

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TIGRYONOK

1. Lack of artificial intelligence.

Which version of Heroes originally had excellent AI? In all of them, it was improved with add-ons and patches.

TIGRYONOK

2. Price of 320 rubles (I checked on Sunday).

How much did you want for 4 CDs?

TIGRYONOK

3. Stupid monster models and bad music.

Music is always a matter of taste, and I think many people like it. As for the models, there are some flaws, but these are скорее exceptions rather than the rule; most of them are drawn very well.

TIGRYONOK

4. There is an editor, but I never made my own maps; I edited old ones. In this editor, you can only create your own maps and cannot edit old ones.

Actually, Nival released the editor so early so that people could create their own maps, that is, create new ones. Perhaps the add-on editor will have the ability to edit old maps.

TIGRYONOK

5. Academy in the Sands.

And so what?

TIGRYONOK

6. Complete disrespect for fans.

And how do you, as a fan, show respect to them? In general, Tigra, don't go back to the old ways...

celt

19 years ago

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Plus, there's a lack of variety! Cities are built almost identically, meaning there's no option, like in Heroes of Might and Magic III, to build a temple and then monster dwellings, or vice versa! We build everything in small increments (including things that aren't needed)...

AlexeyPank

19 years ago

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Yes, the development tactics have become too similar. Heroes were famous for their diversity and variability, but now we have only one general strategy.

Eric Wynn

19 years ago

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The battle system is awesome! And by the way, you need to develop your castles wisely, so that you have both strong armies and a good income.

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Night

19 years ago

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AlexeyPank;32174

Yes, the development tactics have become too similar. Heroes were famous for their diversity and variability, but now we have only one general line.

Wow, what diversity in building!
Two decent options in the Third game versus one in the Fifth!
Yes, that's twice as much!
People, did you want to build the seventh level first and then build the Town Hall? Or build the entire Guild of Mages without focusing on the army/finances?
I understand that the sequence of building distinguished a normal player from a non-normal one. But how many non-normal players are there? At least...