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Offline Ксана Дочь Аграила
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I'm talking about how the Lord perceived it, not what Agrail meant. It became clear that Agrail wasn't very bright when his taste in women was revealed.
Kha-Belekh might not have recognized his former subordinate. And as for taste... well, love is a strange thing, what can you do? :smile48:
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Вы что же, не видите нашего гостя?
Не видите Смерти оскаленный череп?
Череп и кости... Череп и кости...:smile51:
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No, it wasn't like that! Q: Oh, what guests! Railag, right? Can I ask you a few questions? R: My friends call me Railag, but you can call me Agrail.

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It became clear that Agrail wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed when his taste in women was revealed.
FALSE! He's the smartest one there! A hundred times more clever than Kha-Belekh! Love isn't chosen with the head, but with the heart! I love one person, even though I know that I'm not their type and that my parents aren't very happy about it, but I love them. Although, not everyone can understand Agrail's love tragedy, only those who have experienced unrequited love themselves...
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No, it wasn't like that!
V: Oh, what guests! Railag, right? Can I have a word with you?
R: My friends call me Railag, and for you, I'm Agrail.

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FALSE! He's the smartest one there! A hundred times more clever than Kha-Belekh! Love isn't chosen with the head, but with the heart! I love one person, even though I know I'm not his type and that my parents aren't very happy about it, but I love him. Although, not everyone can understand Agrail's love tragedy, only those who have experienced unrequited love themselves...
Yes! I completely agree!!! My dad is the smartest one there...
Unrequited and crazy love is a problem for all generations and all races...)):smile05:
Вы что, сомневаетесь в собственной вере?
Вы что же, не видите нашего гостя?
Не видите Смерти оскаленный череп?
Череп и кости... Череп и кости...:smile51:
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FALSE! He's the smartest one there! A hundred times more clever than Kha-Beleth! Love isn't chosen with the head, but with the heart! I love someone, even though I know I'm not his type and that my parents aren't very happy about it, but I love him. Although, understanding the tragedy of Agrail's love may not be possible for everyone, but only for those who have experienced unrequited love themselves...
The problem isn't unrequited love, but the fact that the Queen is simply a brainless and flighty fool with a sharp tongue. Agrail himself also did many foolish things; he told her to "trust him," and then he killed her husband and tried to capture her, and he did all of this in front of a succubus.
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Did you know that he was defending himself? In one of the videos, when Railag confesses his love for Isabel, he says that he feels very sorry because Nicholas attacked him when he was leading troops out of the Empire. Or do you think he should have let Nicholas kill him? He did it in front of the succubus because he trusted Biara as his right hand. And the fact that Isabel is an idiot is obvious anyway. But I already said that you can’t control your heart!
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Did you know that he was actually defending himself? In one of the videos, when Railag confesses his love for Isabel, he says that he feels very sorry because Nicholas attacked him when he was withdrawing troops from the Empire.
He said that, but in the videos, we first see Agrail with a huge army attacking Isabel, and then a demon sending warriors one after another against the exhausted Cole. He could have weakened Nicholas and escaped, but instead, he finishes him off. He could have easily left Nicholas alive if he wanted to, but he didn't. Moreover, Agrail could have sabotaged the demon attack, in which case the King would have lived, the Empire would have saved its army, and the demon's vanguard would have been defeated.
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Kha-Belekh ordered him to kill Nikolas. Agrail didn't want to do it if possible, but he still wanted to take the place of the Overlord, so betrayal wasn't in his plans yet. He attacked Isabel with a tiny army. Besides, he still managed to trick them. He was supposed to deliver the captive to Shio immediately, but instead, he hid the queen near Danmur, giving Godric a chance to save her. He was just pretending, but in reality, he was trying to save both the queen and the king. It didn't work out... Nikolas turned out to be, as Tieru said, a "brave fool".
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And what does taste in women have to do with it? Agril is doing just fine in that regard... you can be sure of that. I have doubts about whether Xana is the daughter of Agril and Biara... It's all too questionable. I don't think that after Biara betrayed and deceived our hero so many times, Agril would agree to be intimate with her. And besides... if she were his daughter, Agril would definitely have made sure that she killed the messiah... :smile13: The murder of Nicholas was not planned by Xana-Beleth or Agril. Probably something like a duel for the girl happened here. Because Isabel was clearly drawn to Nicholas... And she definitely wouldn't have chosen Agril. But now she's a widow... alone, beautiful... and with a kingdom as a bonus!!! Here, the ability to prioritize correctly played a role... This is his merit.
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What does taste in women have to do with it?
Agrael is perfectly fine in that regard... you can be sure of that...
Exactly!
I have doubts about Xana being the daughter of Agrael and Biara... It's all very questionable...
I don't think Agrael would agree to intimacy with Biara after she betrayed and deceived our hero so many times...
And besides... if she were his daughter, Agrael would definitely make sure that she killed the Messiah...
Well, everything is debatable! Xana fell in love with Sareth, even though she could have killed him long ago, because she has an egoistic character, like most succubi. And Biara and Agrael were flirting with each other too much...
The murder of Nicholas was not planned by either Xa-Beleth or Agrael... Something like a duel for the girl probably happened... Because Isabel was clearly drawn to Nicholas... And she definitely wouldn't have chosen Agrael... But now she's a widow... Alone, beautiful... And she also has a kingdom as a bonus!!!
Here, the ability to correctly prioritize played a role... This is his merit.
This is what confuses me... I read somewhere on one of the forums that the Overlord specifically sent Agrael to kill Nicholas because only Agrael is not affected by the Heart of the Griffin. His spear played a significant role in this, because, as was written in some article about the heroes, it was the magic of Kha-Beleth that guided the hand of his servant and unleashed all his anger on the king. If this is not the case, then it turns out that Agrael can simply not fight, but walk around and shoot red lightning at enemies, causing them to die slowly and painfully, as was the case with Nicholas. And he didn't need the kingdom. He didn't care about the well-being of the Empire and didn't want to come to power there. He was interested in Shi'o and Igg-Shail. Shi'o because it is a powerful military state, and Igg-Shail because it is his homeland, and as it turns out later, he loves his homeland.
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The assassination of Nicholas was not the goal of either of them... Their goal was Isabelle... Nothing else held them in Griffon! Nicholas himself got caught in the crossfire... That's all... Agrael was supposed to deliver Isabelle to Shio! Initially, Grol was supposed to do it, by attacking Ashan... But when Grol died, Agrael decided to take on the task himself... And that's how the meeting happened... And Xa-Belehu benefited from throwing Agrael to the wolves... And he needed to complete the mission to prove his "loyalty" and lull the Overlord to sleep!
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Yes, that’s most likely the case...
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Everything is clear with Nicolas...
But I'm still worried about Xana, specifically her origins...
Agrail couldn't possibly have agreed to Biaura...
Flirting is one thing... but physical intimacy is something else entirely!
Agrail understood that such behavior is natural for a Succubus like Biaura!
But to actually... fall for it...
That doesn't seem like him...
And in general... don't you think that the heroes, in our opinion, resemble a Brazilian soap opera more than a historical saga...?
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There's something like that... But I personally think that the Nival Interactive team just messed things up themselves. They lost a lot of cutscenes in the game, missed some details, and generally didn't connect the Might & Magic storyline with Heroes of Might and Magic V because they were too lazy. That's how this mess came about. Now, we can only guess what's happening in the gaps in Ashan's history.
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Who are the Nival Interactive fans???
And there really is a problem with the videos... On the other hand... The videos contain all the most important information about the walkthrough... The main milestones, so to speak...
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Nivalovtsy? Well, the game was created by Nival Interactive. That's where the word "Nivalovtsy" comes from. :)
It helps with the walkthrough, but the plot gets lost...
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