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16 years ago
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I apologize for being a clueless newbie, but could you please explain the purpose of this poll? Will there be a prize awarded for the most popular choice?
Why was the Best tournament held? Was it a final for the strongest players? Why can't a team be selected from there?
I completely agree with Oelm that the composition of the HW team should be determined through a competition. I am confident that this is the only objective and unbiased way to form a team.
For example, Invisible is on the list. I sincerely respect this person, who laid the foundation for seasonal games. But will he play for HW?

We have many worthy people who can play for the team. I would gladly suggest that the coordinators of other resources play, say, 15x15 or 20x20 – we would gather good players. But besides our desire, there are also the desires of other resources. 10 people – no more can fit on the team.

Best? – let's include Vigo and Vitalik then, they reached the final on a legitimate basis. Without Pete, of course, who didn't make it to the final and became first in the player vote.
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The rankings are very unfair, even the tournament results are unfair. The vote I conducted is also not ideal, but it is currently of interest to the players of our resource. Everyone is voting, and on the first day, there are already results, with several pages of comments in the topic. If it weren't interesting, they wouldn't vote. And the interest needs to be maintained. Yes, the Portal or Bay will have different criteria for selecting players for the inter-portal competition, but that is their business – this is what makes the diversity of resources.

The vote shows how rapidly the balance of power is changing. Just a year ago, the top ten consisted of Uran, Decontaminator, vbn, Invisible, Nagan, Decontaminator… now, of the old players, only Mizrael, Scorp, and Alex R. have remained. That is, it is clear how rapidly the forum is growing, and how new players are emerging.
I think that the best way to hold the inter-portal competition is in the form of an individual championship, with a simultaneous team score. For example, hold a round-robin tournament where each resource will have three of its strongest players, and based on the total points scored by each member of the team, determine the strongest resource.
That is, determine both the inter-portal champion and the strongest forum. At the same time, the rules can be changed for each round: 1st - CM and HW rules, 2nd - 8mm6 and Bay rules, etc.

There are many good suggestions on how to hold the inter-portal competition. But it is also necessary to implement it. After considering Pete's proposal, I suggested a large inter-portal competition, which is implemented through a series of sequential actions, and subsequently, may grow into something more than that – who knows, it may even become a world championship of resources, with the participation of 10-12 leading hero forums in the world.

But before doing this, many small steps need to be taken. Good and useful things are usually done slowly; it is possible to break everything quickly, but it is difficult to build.

Now we have determined the approximate composition of the future inter-portal competition – 5 teams.
Then – we determined the composition of our team.
The next step is that the players are now determining a package of proposals for Bay and Portal regarding the upcoming matches. There are options, and the options are interesting for us and for our friends.

After working out the proposals on the composition, version, and templates, we will contact Bay and Portal with proposals, and look for a consensus.

Then, perhaps, we will help Bay and Portal negotiate with each other, although I hope they will negotiate on their own.

After learning the agreed-upon positions of the three resources, WCL and League (as they planned) will inform their players of the conditions, and there will be negotiations again, now with their participation. I promise to immediately inform the public of our forum about the agreements reached.

After agreeing on all the rules in each match, we will play the inter-portal competition. It is clear that our match with Bay will differ from the match with Portal in terms of versions and templates; there will also be its own characteristics in the games with League and the foreign resource.

If we go through all this without major disruptions, we will get a series of interesting games with the participation of the best players. The new inter-portal competition may help Russian-speaking heroes reach a new level, as did the first two.

Well, and then, when we have such an inter-portal competition in our portfolio, why not give a link to many other resources in the world to the held tournament with a proposal to join in the next one? Perhaps, the proposal will be weighty, given the experience gained in the inter-portal competition – what kind of tournament could then be obtained?
Will Bay refuse the chance to become practically a legitimate world champion? No, probably not. And Portal will not refuse either. And we will not refuse either, if we continue to grow at the same pace, even if we sometimes receive it from our currently stronger neighbors.
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16 years ago
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Wicc
Yeah, I noticed that there's no Inferno patch. We're working on it... it should be available soon.
Isn't it time to combine all these changes into one patch? Upgrade the Town Editor to 1.04.
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16 years ago
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Gentlemen, I've read everything, and believe me, it's a very well-considered idea. The point is, those who deserve to play should be the ones who do, meaning those who won the best-of series on Hv and other resources. Those who have proven themselves through their results and games, not by the majority of votes.
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16 years ago
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Samurai
Despite the many disagreements I had with Avern, I agree with every word in this post! Everything is spot on!
+1 to everything!
By the way, selecting candidates for such events specifically from BESTA (or RP or the Premier League) will enhance the importance of the main tournament, which is very good! And it will be possible to calmly hold regular inter-portal competitions at the end of each year, related to identifying the strongest among all resources! To combine, so to speak, the main tournaments!
All that remains is to add that on Bay, half of the participants in the current RP draw were determined by voting. :D

P.S. Tsar Peter arrived from a foreign tour, gathered the boyar duma and says: "I brought many useful wonders from foreign lands, I wanted 2 more, but there is only enough money in the treasury for one, advise me, which one!"
- First, describe them, Your Majesty!
-The first wonder is port wine! Weaker than our vodka, stronger than beer. Therefore, it makes you happy very quickly, but you don't immediately fall off your feet. And women become more friendly towards it.
-We want port wine! We want port wine!
-The second wonder is condoms! A useful thing - you can do whatever you want with your mistress, and she will not get pregnant with the help of this thing.
-We want condoms! We want condoms!
-And for such cases, I met another useful thing abroad, it is called Voting.
The most respected and bearded boyar stands up and says: "You are right, Your Majesty! ..."censored"... Bring port wine!"
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16 years ago
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Van
Gentlemen, I've read everything, and believe me, it's a very well-considered idea. The point is, who should play? Those who have earned it, i.e., won the best-of series on Hv, and so on, on other resources. Those who have proven their worth through results and their games, not by the majority of votes.
When selecting players for the team, the principle of merit should prevail. The interportal tournament won't happen anytime soon, so we can re-qualify for some of the spots. And it would be good to do this under conditions and rules that are as close as possible to the planned interportal tournament. Training wouldn't hurt.

PS I'm glad Samurai isn't holding a grudge against me.
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16 years ago
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Haven
Gentlemen, I've read everything, and believe me, it's a very well-considered idea. The point is, those who deserve to play should be the ones who have earned it, i.e., won the best-of series on Hv, and so on, on other resources. Those who have proven themselves through their results and games, not by the majority of votes.
IMHO, it's not that simple. The winner of the best-of series on Hv is by no means the strongest player; I'm sure he was just lucky. And, frankly, it's psychologically easier to play when people have voted for your participation in the interportal (effectively asking you), and it's harder when it's the opposite. Something like that, IMHO.
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16 years ago
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Avern
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Personal speculations, especially of this nature, should be shared in private messages or direct messages. If there is evidence, one should contact the Arbitration Committee. But one should not make such statements in the forum, especially in a thread discussing a tournament, and not in a place specifically designated for such statements.
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16 years ago
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The key idea here is: "I was simply saying that when forming a team, the principle of merit should prevail." The rest is just details.

Moreover, while the composition of the partisan team (players on their home field) can be determined by voting, as people know how each player performs even without tournaments, the composition of the airborne team (players on the opponent's field) is better determined through a training camp.
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16 years ago
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2Nagan4: To my great regret, Uran has stepped away from the Heroes scene, at least temporarily. I think this person was following in the footsteps of Petya and Dima. This person, who was able to compete, even if just one match isn't indicative – maybe it was luck – against Stinger, even if it was a while ago, definitely deserved his place! Sorry, my patriotism got the better of me :) No offense to anyone.
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16 years ago
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2Nagan4 to my great regret, Uran has stepped away from Heroes, at least temporarily. I think this person was following the lead of Petya and Dima. He is a person who could have competed, even if one match isn't indicative – maybe he just got lucky against Stinger, even though it was a long time ago, but he definitely deserved his place! Sorry, my patriotism got the better of me :) no offense to anyone.
And I once beat Napalm; they say he's a strong player too ;)
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16 years ago
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Explain to an unenlightened newbie what a portal is and why it's needed. =) P.S. Sorry for the silly questions. =)
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16 years ago
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Gotay367
Enlighten an unenlightened newbie: what is a portal and what is it used for? =)
P.S. Sorry for the silly questions =)


In short:

It's a very good tradition when a Tournament is held between resources to determine who is the strongest for a certain period of time.
Teams are formed, and Heroes players defend the honor of their "native" resource for this right.
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16 years ago
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Wlk777
I once beat Napalma, they say he's a strong player too ;)
Hmm... playing as the first player in Haven with the first player in Fortress (both from that time - I don't know about now) in the interportal? But overall, well done, what can I say :) He's very strong, but I wrote this only because Uran-a was mentioned + my inner patriotism kicked in :) I hope it's not just me. I asked for no offense, which I wrote right away...
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16 years ago
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2Avern
As it has historically been, the choice of the HeroesWorld team is determined by a vote of the HeroesWorld residents themselves. Isn't it good when the people themselves decide who will defend the honor of their native resource? And again, if we compare the vote with the best table, who besides Wlk777 (who received few votes, possibly because he himself wrote a refusal before that) did not get through?
Enlighten the uninitiated noob, what is this portal and what is it for, =)
In the portal you can buy creatures from the external dwelling :D
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16 years ago
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Pasha, are you by any chance related to Furtsev?

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