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Offline Майор Вихрь
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I think The Bricks have some good rap and rapcore songs.
In general, I've never been into rap music, but I know that most of it, what you hear on the surface, isn't very good, unlike the so-called "underground," where you can find some decent artists.
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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Offline Werevolka
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I want to remind you that in the beginning, pop music was The Beatles. And in the 60s and 70s, as my father told me, listening to pop music was almost considered treason. At the very least, you could be expelled from school. But now, the concept of pop music has become debased due to the efforts of many artists (I won't point fingers). And now, the question "Do you listen to pop music?" is perceived as an insult. "Me?! How could you even think that?! I only listen to heavy rock!!" So, it's not about the name, but about the quality (as cliché as that sounds).
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What do the performers have to do with it? The composers stopped writing good music for them. The lyricists write nonsense. Notice – lyricists! My tongue won’t allow me to even remotely call lyricists poets!
Вдруг, откуда ни возьмись, ниоткуда не взялось.

Музыкальное оформление.
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Offline Werevolka
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The performers are also involved. After all, they decide what to sing and what not to sing. If they didn't perform all sorts of nonsense, no one would write it. But pop music seems to have never sunk so low as it has in the former Soviet Union.
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Offline Vayshan
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The performers decide what to sing and what not to sing.
If we're talking about pop music (which is all that's left these days), then the producers make all the decisions, not the performers. The performer is just an image on stage, opening their mouth to lip-sync.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

God save us everyone
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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Offline Ethereal
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Vayshan
If we're talking about pop music (which is all that's left these days), then it's the producers who make the decisions, not the performers. The performer is just an image on stage, opening their mouth to lip-sync.

And this is also true. And also... I wonder, what determines their rating? How does pop music build its popularity? And it's not just about the money, although that plays a role too.
Вдруг, откуда ни возьмись, ниоткуда не взялось.

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Offline Vayshan
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And this too. And even more... I wonder, what determines their rating? How does pop music build its popularity? And it's not just about the money, although it plays a role.
Probably, it's due to very frequent rotation on television and radio (again, the producers' money decides everything), I think that those who aren't really into music listen to it, just as background noise. I don't know what the sales figures for pop music CDs are, because there's no point in buying them if you can find everything for free on the internet.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

God save us everyone
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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Vayshan
I don't know what the sales figures are for albums with pop music, because there's no point in buying them if you can find everything for free on the internet.
You can find everything on the internet. But it's so nice to have a disc of your favorite band on the shelf (mostly, it just satisfies the owner's self-esteem and, in a way, serves as a decoration). The same goes for video games :)
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You can find anything on the internet. But it's so much nicer to have a disc of your favorite band on your shelf (mostly just satisfying the owner's self-esteem, and in a way, serving as a decoration). The same goes for video games.
That's the point: you can respect your favorite bands as musicians, and that's why it's not a burden to buy an original disc, in a way sponsoring the band so they can release their next album sooner. But who would you respect in pop music? Fat producer uncles or scantily clad girls lip-syncing to a backing track?) Absolutely empty music that doesn't justify the cost of an original disc, in my opinion.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

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Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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That's the point – you can respect your favorite bands as musicians, and that's why it's not a problem to buy an original album, essentially sponsoring the band so they can release their next album sooner. But who would you respect in pop music? Fat producer guys or scantily clad girls lip-syncing to a backing track? It's absolutely empty music that doesn't justify the cost of an original album, in my opinion.
Don't you think that many people can love and "respect" those very scantily clad girls, just as much as anyone else respects the musicians of any other band? :)
And as far as I know, "pop" albums sell much faster than any other. It's not the artists themselves who are buying them :D
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Offline Vayshan
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Don't you think that many people might love and "respect" those scantily clad girls just as much as any other person respects musicians of a particular band?
For some reason, it doesn't seem that way. What is there to respect? The talent to sing along to a backing track and move various parts of their body? The lyrics are written by hired lyricists, and the music is composed by hired composers. The pop industry is something... how should I put it... soulless. A producer can promote anyone; physical appearance can be improved, and vocal skills don't matter much. Furthermore, these "scantily clad girls" successfully tour and release albums, which, as you noted, are quite popular. But we need to find a reliable source regarding the number of albums sold. And the country also matters; there are different standards of success for an album in different places. The above applies to modern performers (based on what I know about the pop industry, this is my opinion).
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

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For some reason, I don't see it. What is there to respect? Talent for singing along to a backing track and wiggling various body parts?) The lyrics are written by hired lyricists, and the music is composed by hired composers. The pop industry is something... how should I put it... soulless. A producer can promote anyone; physical appearance can be corrected, and vocal skills don't matter much. Furthermore, these "half-naked girls" successfully tour and release albums, which, as you noted, are quite popular, but we should find a link with proof about their quantity.
Try explaining that to those who listen to it. :) I think they have a different opinion, since they praise their idols, buy their "work," hang up posters in their rooms, and so on.
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So far, I've noticed two purposes of pop music:
-It fills the airwaves (radio/TV)
-Grandmothers listen to it.

Let's take a fairly ordinary forum with a significant number of users and a fairly ordinary topic: "What are you listening to right now?". After analyzing n pages, we calculate the ratio of different musical styles:

Rock (from pop to metal, from folk to alternative) - about 70%
Rap - about 20%
Pop - about 5%
The rest (such as jazz, reggae, classical, pop music [not to be confused with pop]) - about 5%

Why? Fans of pop and rap don't spend much time on forums. Fail. In reality, there are more of them.

If you dig through profiles in ordinary chats or search for artists in ordinary social networks, the ratio will change significantly.

I only checked one familiar forum. I didn't check chats and social networks, but I'm somehow sure that it will change...

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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grandmothers don't listen to pop music))) they listen to old songs, songs from their youth.

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Arandor
Grandmothers don't listen to pop music))) they listen to old songs, from their time.

Arandor, you haven't seen enough grandmothers, have you? They listen to her, but mostly, they prefer music from around the 90s/early 2000s. Proven, demonstrated :D

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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