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#121
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Kyiv - October 10-11, a venue has been found, everything seems to be okay.)
Welcome to Kyiv!

More information is available on the hero esports portal.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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Minsk? Nothing at all. If there are any players, they will be in other cities. But you can play:
September 25-27 - Michurinsk,
October - Kyiv,
January - St. Petersburg,
and Moscow will also determine the date.
In any of these cities, guests will be welcome.

Minsk – The supposed organizers of the qualifier are Roland, Balamut, DCVasia. Game version – TE-Lite?
Many players, besides those mentioned, and Paladin, Hardcore, Felix, etc. The same applies, let's say, from 1 to 4 places, depending on the strength of the qualifier. The tournament can last 3-4 days, or it can be a long tournament – this is an advantage of a large city.
The problems are less than with the others; in Minsk, they gather annually, and there are enough locals. And there are organizers.


In Minsk, you can organize a tournament; I think there will definitely be 16 players. The question is, what kind of final will it be?
It is clear that no one will put in their own money.
So, what are the questions?
Where?
When?
And what is the financial benefit?

For me, it would be interesting if the final was in Kingisepp, Top 16, Olympic format,
100 bucks per person (Prizes for Top 3)
It is clear that this is not from the point of view of profit, but simply for greater responsibility of the players

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As an option, you can organize qualifiers with prizes, and allocate a certain part of these prizes for expenses on getting to the city of the final and for the entry fee. I think that for 200 bucks, all the Top players would come, even those who haven't played in ages.
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Okay, let's aim for a $200 prize and full testing. Let's see who shows up.
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In Minsk, we could organize a tournament; I think there will definitely be 16 players. The question is, what kind of final will it be?
It's clear that no one will put up their own money.
So, what are the questions?
Where?
When?
And what's the financial benefit?

If possible, I'll answer.
1. Organizers conduct their own qualifying tournaments as they see fit. Full TE, Olympic format, and a $100 entry fee – if you decide to, you can do it.
2. Time – it would be good to finish before May of next year because the final is scheduled for that time.
3. Financial benefit. At first, I thought about making the entry fees, say, 1000 rubles per participant (6 qualifying tournaments with 14-16 people each, how many would that be?), but when I talked to the players in the chat, I realized that the vast majority are against entry fees. Some have money problems, and others simply don't like this kind of financial approach.

You can hold your own qualifying tournament in Minsk on any terms that suit you; the main thing is that three finalists are selected. In addition, 18 more people will be selected in six other cities.
Then, the finalists – approximately 18-22 people – will vote on where, when, and on what terms to play. In addition, TE-Lite would be a good compromise between TE players and SoD players; no one would have a reason to slam the door. The fact is that a unifying tournament and a legitimate champion of the Heroes world are long overdue.
Well, if they vote to play the final with entry fees, that's their right.
In my opinion, it would be interesting if the final was in Kingisepp, Top 16, Olympic format,
$100 per person (prizes for the Top 3).
It's clear that this isn't about making a profit, but simply to increase the players' responsibility.

Ideally, the final needs a city where Heroes are the priority, and everything else is secondary, including poker and buffets. There are events where relaxation is the main thing; let's have at least one full-fledged tournament. Otherwise, it might turn out that we just promote Kingisepp, and that's it – and there, poker will traditionally be the main thing; the Heroes final will either not take place or will be formal. Those who come to play Heroes will leave extremely dissatisfied. This would be a failure for the Heroes community, considering how much effort and time has already been invested in it; people might not be able to gather for a new unifying tournament.
I'm not advocating for Michurinsk. If people vote for a city where they want to play the final, and the organizers guarantee that the final will be played as it should be for the most important Heroes event of the year, then I will vote for that city myself – Kingisepp, St. Petersburg, Moscow… it doesn't matter.

By the way, the qualifying tournaments can be a barometer of what will happen in the final.
A qualifying tournament was held in Michurinsk, and I would be happy with that kind of final. I'm not talking about tournament creativity, but about the overall friendly atmosphere and the spirit of Heroes. After all, there was time for cards and a feast, but not at the expense of the tournament.

The Olympic format is not good; a bad respawn, and that's it – you're out, while in the Swiss system, even with one loss, a person still has a chance to be at least in the top three. And many people want to play more than one game, especially since people will travel so far for the final.
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A contribution of $500 should be made personally for Vasya, Alex, and their colleagues who share this passion. For every half-hour delay in the tournament in favor of poker, $100 should be deducted.
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To be honest, I don't like the idea of various fees, except for organizational expenses. But the idea of having top players come (and undoubtedly many would come just for the idea itself) would be much better!
С истиной где-то рядом...





Лето 2010.
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We need to make a $500 contribution personally for Vasya, Alex, and their fellow enthusiasts. For every half-hour delay in the tournament in favor of poker, deduct $100.
For some, $500 is just one buy-in, and for others, it's a month's salary :smile32:. That's why many will be against it. BUT no one is stopping you from agreeing and playing among yourselves for a stake ;)
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#128
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donations are needed to make it possible to cover the travel expenses; otherwise, many people from Minsk, Moscow, and St. Petersburg will not be able to attend.
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Kingisepp - looked at the map to see where this place is; it's over 100 km from St. Petersburg!
And it's far for many to fly to St. Petersburg, and here they also have to travel - transfer/wait for a flight... in my opinion, it's the same as Michurinsk - a bad option :(
In the worst case, the final should be held either in St. Petersburg or better in Moscow.
Don't talk about the prices being high there. Those who look will find ;)
We found a club in Kyiv for 2 UAH per hour - that's $0.25, so for a 12-hour day, a player will pay $3!
Plus accommodation - an apartment costs 200 UAH - $25 - up to 6 people can fit in it to spend the night!

And about the fact that someone doesn't have the money to travel and get the title of the best player in the CIS - let them use their brains and earn it.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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Kingisepp is not a very good option. People mainly go there to play poker. Moscow-St. Petersburg is a good choice, and in St. Petersburg, you don't even need to look for a club. Michurinsk, by the way, is a good option. The only thing that bothers me is the layout of the club – it is divided into 3 small rooms, and there is very little free space.
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#131
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The advantage of Kingisepp is that it's a recreation center, so you can combine business with pleasure. As for the timing, it's approximately January 3-7, so there's no problem with having enough time for everything with proper judging.
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The advantage of Kingisepp is that it's a recreation center, so you can combine business with pleasure. As for the timing, it's approximately January 3-7, so there's plenty of time to complete everything with proper judging.
There are many advantages. But if poker isn't eliminated there (i.e., only participants and spectators are invited, without online poker players, and the game schedule is monitored), it will be the same as in the past – poker until morning, who cares about the championship, splitting the money for 1st place, etc.
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And I, for example, am rooting for Kyiv.
I've wanted to visit this glorious city for a long time.
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And I, for example, am rooting for Kyiv!

+1! A fairytale city. + The beautiful Dnieper River cuts it in half!
+ It's warm + everyone can easily get there!
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