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#91
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Oelm
In my opinion, Kirra is the strongest option against a mage, even a de-banned one.
However, in this case, as far as I understand, the victory was in accordance with the current rules, so it rather proves that in this match, Cobra simply played better, perhaps he had a better starting position, or Sem made a mistake.
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As per tradition, I suggest attaching save files to the reports.
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Van (Blue, Necropolis, Aislinn, Aislinn) def numOne (Red, Fortress, Bron, Bron) 2sm4d(3) 131
Took one rest at 111, then spawned on the surface. With Aislinn came a pup with Eagle Eye — I don't even remember its name))) — and Valeska with 12 Archers. Ended up with a start of 60 Skeletons and 12 Archers. There were plenty of gold piles lying around. Spread out with 5 heroes. Ended up with the first week's external dwelling of hags and cheap artifacts, one Crypt. Aislinn is a level 7 Necromancy expert, Wisdom, started with Scholar and Air Magic, but the native respawn has a Well and a Marketplace. Bought the Helm immediately +3. 150 Skeletons, 3 Liches. Town buildings: 12456 in the Castle. The external Marketplace rules, and most importantly, the Animate Dead spell in the Magic Shrine. Second Orc secondary skill: 2 Griffin Conservatories, 1 and 3 Angels, a Dwelling of 20 Dwarves. Two more Griffin Conservatories revealed. Preparing to take them — they're very spread out. I'm scouting the treasure zone — there's a Shield +4 to All. Planning to take it after the Griffin Conservatories. Skeletons approaching 300, 131. Goshann arrives — good, finally Aislinn will focus on taking the treasure zone, while Goshann does the grunt work. News arrives of the opponent's forfeit. We try again. The focus didn't work once more. Opponent thanks for the game.
Thank you for the game.
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Van (Blue, Necropolis, Aislin, Aislin) def numOne (Red, Fortress, Bron, Bron) 2sm4d(3) 131

Confirmed.
Tried starting Bron — didn’t like it, felt uneasy without a stack of lizardmen. Didn’t take Rest, but later regretted it, because the respawn and secondary skills were poor (only 2 crypts at the respawn, no other decent income buildings). On the first, I placed 1-6, without the 5 dwelling, picked ramp-secondary Mage Guild, market, and elves. Rushed into the treasure zone.
On the second, I took the Dragon Fly Hive at 8, the external dwelling of red dragons, then didn’t know what to do, since I had no mana, my army was 14 wasps and 13 dragonflies with some chaff, and the guards everywhere were insane: a hundred archmages and a hundred storms guarding Pandora’s Boxes, up to 19 giants also guarding a Pandora’s Box, up to 99 monks guarding the Dragon Shield. Barely cracked 2 Dragon Fly Hives (the first guarded by nearly 50 mages, the second by 41 fanatics). The situation was dire — by the end of the second day, only 20 dragonflies left and I had lost most of my army :(
At the start of the third, I brought whatever few troops from the secondary town, bought the dragon, attacked the hundred mages, and 3(!) consecutive anti-morale procs (with only -1 morale) sealed the deal. Basically a disaster.

Thanks to Ivan for the game.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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Hmm... Guys, you weren't supposed to play against each other in the first round...
I wrote somewhere in the thread that you can agree among yourselves who plays against whom, BUT I asked you to let me know! And I would have taken that into account when drawing the pairings!
I will, of course, count the match, what else can I do, but in the future, please stick to the pairings. You haven't played the 1st round yet.
Submit the 2nd round already
I can't do it until October 15th or until everyone has played a round; that's the beauty of the Swiss system. If possible, I'll draw the pairings earlier (if most people have played, and the rest let me know that they won't make the deadline). BUT no later.
I suggest attaching saves to the reports, as per tradition
There is no such requirement, but if you want to, feel free to attach saves, pictures, or even videos :)

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Yes, and I would like you to write more about the mages. Just a suggestion
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Kash

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I would like to note that in one of the matches, rule 5.2.1 was never violated, and in another, the opponent playing as a Mage lost on his own... If this continues at this pace, I'm afraid that the question of whether Mages are overpowered and whether to cancel 5.2.1 will remain open.
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I would like to note that in one of the matches, point 5.2.1 of the rules was not violated, and in another, the opponent playing as a Mage lost on his own... If this continues at this pace, I'm afraid that the question of whether Mages are overpowered and whether to cancel 5.2.1 will remain open.
But why, many claimed that starting with a Warrior is easy and fast.
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Ready for battle right now! But considering my "skill level," KostyaN will still have to try hard to lose before me. :smile52: :smile52: :smile52:
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Wlk777
I'd like to point out that in one of the matches, rule 5.2.1 was never violated, and in another, the opponent playing as a Mage lost on their own... If this continues, I'm afraid the question of whether Mages are overpowered and whether to cancel 5.2.1 will remain open.
It seems like no one is forcing anyone to lose...
ну это вообще всем аргамездец!© Kash
без авто:smile20:
Человек - игрушка Бога. Этому - то и надо следовать. Надо жить играя.
Платон.
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Wlk777
I would like to note that in one of the matches, point 5.2.1 of the rules was not violated, and in another, the opponent playing as a Mage lost on his own... If this continues at this pace, I'm afraid that the question of whether Mages are overpowered and whether 5.2.1 should be removed will remain open.
Well, this is exactly what was said before... No results will change the position of the most convinced. The rest, unfortunately, are not as active in expressing their opinions. :(
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Samurai
That's exactly what was said before... No results will change the position of the most convinced. The rest, unfortunately, are not so active in expressing their opinions. :(
No logical arguments reach the brains of people like you. The winners themselves admit that this doesn't prove anything and they didn't intend to prove anything, but our parrot keeps repeating the same old, stupid idea:mad:
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Wlk777
No logical arguments can penetrate the minds of people like you. The winners themselves admit that this doesn't prove anything and they didn't intend to prove anything, but our parrot keeps repeating the same old, stupid idea:mad:
Simply participating in this tournament, in my opinion, implies a desire for the participant to prove the strength or weakness of mages or warriors.
P.S. I ask that you refrain from insults during the discussion. Although I don't agree with your point of view, I only called you the "most convinced," but not with those humiliating words that you carelessly expressed.
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Samurai
Just participating in this tournament, IMHO, implies the participant's desire to prove the strength or weakness of mages or warriors.
P.S. I ask that the discussion be conducted without insults. Even though I disagree with your point of view, I only called you "the most convinced one," but certainly not with those demeaning words that you had the imprudence to utter.
Of course, I'm too lazy to repeat myself, but I will repeat. Opening your eyes wide and yelling stuff like "I won and don't give a damn" is stupidity — you need to look at how you won and against whom. Wake up, can a victory without violating clause 5.2.1 be considered proof against its abolition?
P.S. Well, at least try to understand what is being written to you, or will you continue to cause irritation and thus insults? =)
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Of course I'm too lazy to repeat it, but I'll say it again. Popping your eyes out and yelling "I won, and screw it" is just stupid—you need to look at how they won and against whom.
I completely agree; the very fact of a mage winning speaks for itself. Whether it was indirect (for example, Van likely used Icylinn's signature spell in battles against neutrals) or direct (Cobra's Chain Lightning strike against an opponent), the mage's specialty influences the outcome.
Q.E.D., as we mathematicians say:p
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#106
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The tournament has just begun. As we say in Nighon, "you count troglodytes in the autumn."