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Offline Captain
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I don't think we should be too formal for this tournament – let's suggest a fun format. I read all 11 pages of their thread. The gist is that they have very poor communication between each other. In large cities, it's still somewhat manageable, but for others, it's a disaster. So, probably not a very high level... I'm judging indirectly, as they don't have any specific rules or bans. Many of our rules appeal to them (even the ones about 4-turn hero magic, which we're currently discussing removing). One of them is surprised that the Moon spell isn't banned either. They allow hit-and-run tactics, and there's one unknown template and one balance setting. They don't use ICQ; instead, they use QQ, and as a last resort, Skype.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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Regarding the language – I spoke to them in English on ICQ, and we agreed that only English-speaking players would participate in the match. There will be no language problems. I would be ashamed in front of the Chinese if they translated your speculations about their education. Captain – I'll contact you on ICQ now, thanks for your help.
Is there any information about which templates they are using?
As they said, they are using 2sm4d(3) (they simply call it 243) and Balance.
Alex GT (AlyaSmekhova) speaks English fluently. And he knows the heroes pretty well.
Well, if he writes that he wants to play, let him contact me.
Do you remember how the previous tournament ended? The results still haven't been announced...
It ended with Vitalik and Vortex agreeing to play. I've talked to Vitalik about this many times, but the game never happened. Maybe I should go to Vitalik's house and force him to play? I can't help here if the players don't play.

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The problem is that they have very poor communication with each other.
VLK and I checked the connection with the Chinese, and everything is fine.
Regarding Alex – maybe we don't need him?
Or maybe we shouldn't start a pointless argument here?
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The quality of the connection depends on the quality of the internet connection of the players themselves, specifically on the quality, not the speed (a good 256 kbps is more than enough for a normal game). As for where the players are located, it doesn't seem to matter, whether it's Zimbabwe or Honolulu.
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
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Fofan – I would gladly play.
My English is passable – I think I can communicate. If not, I think Captain will publish a "Heroes" slang dictionary in English...
Стратегия - искусство возможного.

Первое правило форума :
"Хвалу и клевету приемли равнодушно
И не оспаривай глупца" (с)

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Offline Dirty_Player
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StickyFingaz
It ended with Vitalik and Vortex agreeing to play. I've talked to Vitalik about this many times, but the game never happened. Maybe I should go to Vitalik's house and make him play? I can't help here if the players don't play.
This is what organizational skills are – to negotiate and reach a decision. Being an organizer of inter-portal events is not only about creating a topic and recording the results, but also about the ability to negotiate with the opposing side!

Of course, I wish you good luck in this endeavor; if everything works out, I'll be happy!
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Offline StickyFingaz
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What has been agreed upon so far:
1) There will be 8 people on the team. Not 7 or 9, as those numbers are unlucky for China. If there is a tie, we will play a match of the best players to determine the winner.
2) Template - Balance. It is played both by us and them.
3) Time - 6 minutes per turn.
4) Version - only SoD, as they do not play TE.
5) Connection - Hamachi or direct IP.

If you have suggestions regarding these points, please write them by tomorrow. On Saturday we will discuss the rules; perhaps we will agree on simplified ХВ ones.
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So, you're saying they also play on the skirmish map, why not that one? It seems to me that we have more experience on the skirmish map than they do. More precisely, we have more experience on the skirmish map than on the balanced map.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Offline StickyFingaz
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I'll talk about this tomorrow. I think we'll play with small maps and balanced factions.
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Offline Loi
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I tried playing with Chinese players online, using the network address Sticky provided...
There's a translator there - WindBellKl. He reported to his team that they logged into the game without any issues, but:
one player only plays with fixed units - Desert War
the other plays - Balance
as they said, these are the most popular...
Стратегия - искусство возможного.

Первое правило форума :
"Хвалу и клевету приемли равнодушно
И не оспаривай глупца" (с)

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Offline AlexTheGreat
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Well, since Tolik is asking so nicely, I’ll gladly play! :)
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loi
I tried playing with Chinese players online, using the network Stick mentioned...
There's WindBellKl - a translator. He reported to his group that they joined the game without any issues, but:
one only plays fixed maps - Desert War
the other - Balance
as they said, these are the most popular...
If it's not just another "pee-measuring contest," as Vic likes to call it, and it's something worthwhile, then at least a list with the corresponding maps for these fixed maps is needed.
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Offline LeBron
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I tried to unsubscribe from their forum, but the anti-spam system is so complicated that even after double verification, you have to wait another hour. I'll suggest they play 4 fun, but judging by the reports of their games, the skill level there is... well, let's just say it's not very high. I was especially amused by Vocal playing as a "dad" and Data 245 with an unbroken Grand Order.

"Это нам идеально подходит!" [Новосибирск, 2013]
"Красавчик! Если только не читер.." [Киев, 2014]
"Это Вам не шутки - нажрался Dust в маршрутке" [Новокузнецк, 2015]
Сам ты фиш (с) :D
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LeBron
tried to unsubscribe from their forum, but the anti-spam system is so complicated that even after double verification, you have to wait another hour. I'll suggest they play 4 fun, but judging by the reports of their games, the skill level is... well... especially impressive was Vokial as a dad and Data 245 with an unbroken GO)))
Were you waiting?
I don't think so...

We agreed with one of their players to play tomorrow morning.
Balance is standard.

The rules are here:

Balance Rule:

1 No Joiners. No Grail. Cannot buy map. Ban Hill fort. Ban Bug. Ban Lv 4.5 Scroll. Ban Red Rush.
2 Must kill the guard first to pass, even if it is misplaced. If there are multiple stacks of monsters guarding one thing or connection, you shall kill one.
3 Banned heroes: Isra, Vidomina, Galthran, Sir Mullich, Kyrre, Gunnar, Dessa, Luna, Grindrn, Labetha.
If one of these heroes is > Lv5, it should be fired immediately.
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Race Level:
Level 1 (Highest): Conflux, Necromancy
Level 2: Castle and Gold Dragon
Level 3: Others.
If one player uses a lower-level race than the other, he can use banned heroes and Lv4,5 scrolls (except Flight, Dimension Door, Town Gate, Armageddon, Implosion).
If one player uses a lv3 race and the other uses lv1, he has the right to do anything (the rules 1-3 are neglected) except scrolls of Flight, Dimension Door, and Town Gate.

As I understand it, their main peculiarity, as with all other foreign players, is that they don't have the concept of a restart. :)

The 4th rule means a gradation of races. If someone gets a lower gradation, they can use bonuses...
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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Offline Avern
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The Dungeon faction is in the third tier now?! And Shakti hasn't been banned? Shhh :cool: It's a military secret.
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