Dialogues with Moderators — Suggestions and improvements.

SandroXXL

17 years ago

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Wlk777, listen, it might be a cliché, but maybe you should start with yourself, right? Alex_R is deleting posts, but your posts constantly contain insults directed at him, either directly or indirectly. Maybe you should stop trying to show off how "cool" you are? All that talk about leashes, corrupt moderators, and some controlling force is in the past; just stop, seriously.

Qwerty

17 years ago

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2 Wlk777 Stop. You just violated the rules of our forum. Why do this? Especially since you have expressed many interesting ideas and written many good posts.
Believe me, a moderator can allow themselves much less than a user without moderator duties! And the moderation team in Heroes 3, with the arrival of Alex_R, has become simply excellent; just change your perspective on this...

Wlk777

17 years ago

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Stop trying to heal me; Alex was too lazy to respond to my objections to his idea that the starting hero is useless compared to the deck. Of course, it's very convenient to suppress objections with a green nickname; I'm not arguing. 2 SandroXXL, regarding the insults I directed at Alex (publicly), these are just your fantasies; I'm sorry, practically nothing like that happened... And regarding the leash, that wasn't my idea; maybe Alex is used to training dogs, but he clearly has problems with people... And not just with me. Many don't trust him. This is also a fact.

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Qwerty

Believe me, a moderator can afford much less than a user without moderator duties.

I don't believe it :D

Avern

17 years ago

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The problem is that Russian is a language of intonation. You can express a compliment using profanity, or you can be very polite while putting someone down. It's impossible to convey the tone in written form, and emoticons clearly don't do the job. I'm not saying that profanity should be allowed in posts, but rather that when you see a post mentioning your name, you take it very personally, and usually in a negative way. After all, you can't hear how the words were spoken. This is what fuels the wave of anger, which a mature person is perfectly capable of suppressing. I have a friend who is a "thief in law," a very powerful, influential, and wealthy man. I've never heard him raise his voice to anyone, whether it's someone in his circle or a stranger. And before I took on a leadership role, my father told me: "There are three mistakes that a boss should never make: 1. Do the work for your subordinates. 2. Yell at your subordinates. 3. Punish your subordinates." Personally, when I see something unpleasant directed at me in a post, I first read it ten times in a row, then forget about it and come back to it an hour later, and believe me, a lot becomes clearer (when emotions no longer have power over you). P.S. As for punishments, there's a rule in chess: "A threat is stronger than execution." If you constantly use punishment, it won't correct anyone.

Wlk777

17 years ago

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Regarding Alex, using the canine terminology he introduced, he reminds me of a chained dog that, if it doesn't bite, will try to mark every post :D

SandroXXL

17 years ago

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Regarding my insults directed at Alex (public ones), these are just your fantasies.

What other public ones? You don't have to look far for examples.

By the way, regarding Alex, using the dog terminology he introduced, he reminds me of a chained dog that, if it doesn't bite, will try to mark every post.

- that's my fantasy, right?

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Wlk777

17 years ago

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SandroXXL

What other public ones? You don't have to look far for examples.

- is that my imagination?

Yes. But that was after your (if you don't mind me saying "your") post. Before that, you won't find anything like it, so don't bother looking. And regarding the "leash," it bothered me, and I won't hide it (I'm too lazy to find a link to the post, but it was there, and people won't lie). So, if he had just said it once and stopped, that would be one thing, but no, he edits every single character in my posts and deletes them when he gets the chance. Maybe some people would like that, but I don't, sorry.

Zybr

17 years ago

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Wlk777, does it really matter when this happened? It's like saying, "He started it first." It's just childish. If you can't remain neutral, then you shouldn't be upset when your posts are edited or deleted. Yes, maybe it happens more often to you, but in my opinion, it's not without reason.

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Wlk777

17 years ago

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ZYbr

Wlk777, what difference does it make when this happened? It's like saying "he started it." It's just childish. If you can't remain neutral, then you shouldn't be upset when you're corrected or have your posts deleted. Yes, maybe it happens more often to you, but in my opinion, it's not without reason.

In principle, you're right. But that doesn't negate what I said earlier.

SandroXXL

17 years ago

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Wlk777, and I won't even try, everything has already been corrected and revised, especially since I saw the beginning of the argument. But if you want to continue stirring things up, it's your business.

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Wlk777

17 years ago

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SandroXXL

Wlk777, and I won't even try, everything has already been discussed and revised, especially since I saw the beginning of the argument. But if you want to continue stirring things up, it's your business.

To be honest, I'm really tired of this argument, and I want to express my hope that Alex_R will learn to be more respectful of others and bother me less. With that, I wish everyone good luck. And a little morality :)

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Alex_R

17 years ago

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Wlk777
Even when communicating not with me, but with other moderators in this thread, you try to write something nasty directed at me. Why should I treat you with more respect than others?
Do you have any objections? All the posts I have edited, whether they are yours or not, can be reviewed by competent people. Write to anyone higher in rank. Otherwise, all your posts in this thread are just nonsense (by the way, with violations of the rules).

Wlk777

Moreover, he deletes my posts without any respect, as soon as I even slightly disagree with him.

Without an example, these words are simply slander!

Wlk777

P.S. I suspect that this post will be deleted, but as long as I'm not banned, I will restore it.

That is, subconsciously you know that you are wrong, but by trying (as you think) to threaten, you are only making things worse for yourself

Wlk777

... DISRESPECTFUL Alex_R ... Does the green nickname make your head spin? ...

violation

Wlk777

...he reminds me of a chained dog, which, if it doesn't bite, will try to mark every post :D

violation

In a moderator's work, it is even more important not to simply follow the rules, but to have a sense of the situation. And since all people are prone to making mistakes, the approach becomes partially individual for each person...
It is clear that forum members who constantly participate in squabbles and show various forms of disrespect to others attract the maximum attention of moderators to themselves, while a "positive" person can sometimes be allowed a small prank.

General ZeT

17 years ago

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Wlk777, please read carefully: Main rules of the www.HeroesWorld.ru portal: Point 18

The actions of HeroesWorld moderators and coordinators are not subject to discussion, and if a HeroesWorld user disagrees with their legitimacy in accordance with the current HeroesWorld rules and the current rules of the moderators, they can, within two weeks from the moment they believe an unlawful action was taken, send a private message to the HeroesWorld administration with specific claims regarding the actions of the moderators or coordinators, providing appropriate evidence of the unlawfulness of their actions in accordance with the existing rules on HeroesWorld.

You have already violated the rules of this forum from the very beginning; I don't know why the others got involved and started discussing the actions of moderator Alex_R. Write to the Administration about your dissatisfaction and present evidence of the violation by moderator Alex_R., and they will decide what to do next. I strongly ask you to stop this circus!

Wlk777

17 years ago

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I'm not going to complain about anyone, but I will treat Alex_R as he deserves, given his petty nitpicking and deleting my posts during discussions on the topic. He has earned my disrespect and lack of trust (remember the vote for his candidacy for the Arbitration Committee), as have many other forum members.

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Dirty_Player

17 years ago

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Valentin, I think we have a democratic forum. If we create a poll in the Heroes of Might and Magic III Online section, asking something like, "Are you satisfied with the actions of moderator Alex_R?" and a large number of people express their disapproval, then his nickname will change back to its original color. As I see it, Alex is too strict with the rules. I'm very surprised by the persistence with which he tries to get his clanmate removed from the forum :eek:, and the clan is even called "Man is man." Is that normal at all? :confused:

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