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Zybr

17 years ago

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A week is more than enough. It's a bit inconvenient to have to choose right up until the start, even though you can place bets on what will ultimately win:D

And why, if it's 7 days, is the voting closed? What's the purpose?

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CTPAHHuK

17 years ago

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oxygen_hl

They are on the League. The website will be up by the time of the draw.

It would be great to have an international ranking for the World Championship series tournaments.

oxygen_hl

Let me explain why I suggest this format.
Disadvantages of the group stage + knockout:
- Uncontrolled rounds, games proceed "on their own" – this leads to complacency and major delays;
- Gaps in the tables – this severely damages the tournament's image;
- Very long duration;
- In the playoff (knockout) section, very strong players can be eliminated by chance, almost without having time to play against serious opponents. That is, the most interesting section of the tournament for half of the playoff participants ends immediately. As a result, you struggle through the groups (searching and agonizing) and are eliminated in the first round of the playoffs, having barely played – it's frustrating.

Okay, I understand.

oxygen_hl

We need to decide on the map voting. 7 days or until the start of the tournament. If until the start of the tournament, it should be open so that people can practice. I don't really like the openness because it encourages manipulation and collusion, but if there is no other option, we can have an open vote until the start.

The regulations are well written:
July 1: Publication of tournament materials, maps selected by the organizing committee, opening the possibility to add/withdraw judges or maps, opening registration for the championship.
July 7: Blocking the list of maps and judges, start of map voting.
July 13: Completion of map voting, publication of the final list.
July 20: Publication of the draw results.
August 13: Start of the championship.

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Lee

17 years ago

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Does the regulation account for a situation where a player is absent from the city for more than two weeks? We're going on vacation for 2-3 weeks at the end of August. This is still just a rough idea, but I'd like to know... Does it mean that if you miss a game (because you don't fit into the schedule), you lose after two weeks, and then continue in the bracket? Or do you have to arrange with everyone on your path to postpone the games? I'm just thinking out loud... didn't know what to write:smile08:

CTPAHHuK

17 years ago

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Guys, let's vote for the maps. I will be a judge from Hv for the World Championship and will select 5 maps to be included in the top ten. Please rank the maps in order, starting with the ones you find most useful. My ranking: 1. Power Spot 2. Will and Mind 3. Bizarro 4. Dark and Dalia 5. Ruins of Zezland 6. Spleen 7. Iron Man 8. Heart of the Winter 9. Circle 2.0 10. Lezkandra 11. Showdown 12. Plains of Despair 1.6 13. If these walls could talk There is one week to vote for the Hv maps, and the voting will end on June 27th at 12:00.

Zybr

17 years ago

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1 Heart of the Winter
2 Showdown
3 If these walls could talk
4 Will and Reason
5 Power Spot
6 Lezkandra
7 Plains of Despair 1.6
8 Bizarro
9 Circle 2.0
10 Iron Man
11 Dark and Dalia
12 Ruins of Zezland
13 Spleen

Something like that.

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oxygen_hl

17 years ago

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CTPAHHuK

It would be nice to have an international ranking for the Might and Magic series tournaments.

A ranking? That would be cool, of course. How do you envision it? What formulas, etc.?

Lee

Does the regulation provide for what happens if a player is not in the city for more than 2 weeks? We are going on vacation for 2-3 weeks at the end of August. This is still just a vague idea, but I would like it to be considered... So, you simply lose after one defeat (because you didn't fit into the schedule), miss 2 weeks, and then continue in the bracket... or do you have to agree with everyone on your path to postpone the games...?
I'm just thinking out loud... I didn't know what to write:smile08:

I will include in the regulations that you can apply for a long absence. But you need to do it in advance, of course. We will certainly accommodate you. Vacation is sacred.

ZYbr

And why, if it's 7 days, is the voting closed? What's the purpose?

To prevent collusion, such as "friend, help me move map N, and I'll help you." To make sure everything is fair.

Pashagreen

17 years ago

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1 Iron Man
2 Will and Mind
3 Circle 2.0
4 Power Spot
5 If these walls could talk
6 Heart of the Winter
7 Bizarro
8 Showdown
9 Plains of Despair 1.6
10 Spleen
11 Dark and Dalia
12 Lezkandra
13 Ruins of Zezland

Zybr

17 years ago

Pashagreen, два раза PS:)

Pashagreen

17 years ago

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Yeah, sorry. #6 Heart of the Winter.

CTPAHHuK

17 years ago

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DJN expressed his "not fun" opinion regarding the "cash prize." P.S. DJN strongly warns that many might refuse to play for a monetary prize.

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CTPAHHuK

17 years ago

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Another question: will the double elimination be against bots or with a qualifying round? I think it would be better to have a qualifying round if the number of players is not 16, 32, etc. The qualifying round would be for those who are participating for the first time, or for those with the fewest wins in the World Championship 2008.

Zybr

17 years ago

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CTPAHHuK, not all games were played at the World Championship 2008. Therefore, not everyone will be on equal footing. I think each portal is capable of determining the level of participants who represent it.

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oxygen_hl

17 years ago

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ZYbr

CTPAHHuK, not all games were played at the World Championship 2008. Therefore, not everyone will be in equal conditions. I think each portal is capable of determining the level of participants who represent it.

Players do not belong to websites and only represent themselves. There are people who do not play on any of the listed resources; who will determine their strength? And who will take responsibility for ranking them? Plus, there will be more behind-the-scenes maneuvering. Let everything be open.

Here's a suggestion: essentially, the first round against bots is a qualification round, but a random one. Let the bots target the seeded players first. This will minimize the randomness.

Lu41k

17 years ago

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Greetings everyone :)

Well, since the voting has started... and I just made it in time :) I'll offer my list as well, although it's generally similar to the others..
1 Bizarro
2 Power Spot
3 Will and Mind
4 Lezkandra
5 Dark and Dhalia
6 Ruins of Zezland
7 Heart of the Winter
8 Circle 2.0
9 Iron Man
10 Spleen
11 Plains of Despair 1.6
12 If these walls could talk
13 Showdown

I'd also like to add a couple of words..

First: it's good that the World Championship is moving forward.. :) Thanks, Oxy, I hope for the same activity going forward :)

Second: Ruslan, thank you so much for taking on the judging :) I'm very grateful to you! :)

Third.. an appeal to Brennus_Whiskey.. last year was the first launch of this kind of tournament, and while not everything went smoothly.. that was LAST year.. let it stay in the past.. and whoever brings up the past.. — will get an eye poked out ;) So we won't be returning to this issue anymore :)

P.S. For now, I'm digesting a ton of information and recovering from vacation :)

CTPAHHuK

17 years ago

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Don't you want to participate in the Showdown at all? Is Power Spot and Will and Mind both in 2nd place, or Will and Mind in 3rd? I need to calculate the points.

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