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Posts from Dialogues with ModeratorsAuto-translated
Yes, I misspoke; I was writing from memory.
But you have repeatedly hinted in your posts that there are quite a few cheaters among online players (and I'm not just talking about players on HW, if you didn't understand). And you also did so in private messages.
And here's that quote:
I also want to note that, thanks to this guy (Wicca), the impunity for cheating has increased on HW. (and he knows exactly what I'm talking about)
(Alex_R)
So, please explain this phrase to me in detail, and also explain the meaning of the word "slander."
What you wrote in the aforementioned post, http://forum.heroesworld.ru/showthre...741#post258741, can only be described as nonsense. And to say that I used vulgar language (which is still written in the post) is an outright lie.
2 Oelm I was the one who suggested the respected Alex_R as a moderator for the very large and complex section dedicated to the third installment of Heroes of Might and Magic.
Is the majority's consent not necessary? Personally, I would definitely be against his candidacy.
So, please, explain this phrase to me in detail, and also explain the meaning of the word "slander."
The phrase concerns Wicc, and I am ready to explain it to him, but he refused to continue the discussion in a private message. You can find the definition of the word "slander" in Ozhegov's explanatory dictionary. There is even an online version.Oelm
And to say that I used vulgar language (which is still written in the post) is an outright lie.
No, it doesn't say that, but I can change it back. For now, please read the forum rules and help section carefully.
Obscene language (vulgar language) - (offensive expressions, unprintable profanity) - from English obscene (indecent, dirty, shameless), which, in turn, comes from Latin obscenus (repulsive, indecent, improper) - a segment of abusive language in various languages, including the crudest (obscene, indecently disgusting, vulgar) abusive expressions, often expressing a spontaneous reaction to an unexpected (usually unpleasant) situation.
Alex_R is clearly biased and unfair as a moderator; he went through this /topic/6056/ topic with an iron fist and deleted many of my perfectly harmless phrases like "I'll explain it very simply," but didn't touch the personal correspondence and insults with comrade Wicc, whom he doesn't particularly like himself. Such inadequate (in terms of moderation) and biased moderators will constantly cause conflicts and tension on the forum; I already don't want to stay here, especially since this paranoidly prejudiced comrade (seeing sedition in my posts even where there isn't any) will edit my posts however he likes… Now I will save all my posts and restore them to their original form if they are edited by this obviously overly active and not always adequately acting gentleman….
Alex_R is clearly biased and unfair as a moderator; he thoroughly reviewed this /topic/6056/ thread and deleted many of my perfectly harmless phrases like "I'll explain it very simply," but left the personal correspondence and arguments with user Wicc untouched, even though he doesn't particularly like him.
Hold on, hold on, hold on... As a moderator, I am not interested in playing favorites. I went through the topic because, even before becoming a moderator, I noticed a lot of arguing there. I removed phrases that were not exactly what you described, but rather things like "if you don't understand, drink some poison," and also removed obviously off-topic messages. If you see other off-topic messages, provide a link to them in the "off-topic messages" thread, and moderators will remove them if they are deemed to be so.
If you don't like my moderation, write a complaint to the administration about my actions, specifying the post that was unfairly edited. Regarding your unwillingness to stay here – that’s your business, but the fear of being under close scrutiny suggests frequent violations of the rules on your part.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. As a moderator, I'm not interested in "he loves me, he loves me not." I went through the thread because, even before I was a moderator, I noticed a lot of arguing there. I removed phrases like "if you don't understand, drink some poison," and I also removed obviously off-topic messages. If you see other off-topic messages, provide a link in the "off-topic messages" thread, and the moderators will remove them if they deem them to be so.
If you don't like my moderation, write a complaint to the administration about my actions, specifying the post that was unfairly edited. As for your unwillingness to stay here, that's your business, but the fear of being under close scrutiny suggests that you frequently violate the rules.
Explain what is so offensive about the phrase "I'll explain it very simply"? I don't really like complaining, but I'm not going to put up with the constant nitpicking of a biased moderator towards me:mad:
I'm not going to tolerate the constant nitpicking and biased attitude of this moderator towards me.
Um, so I'm spamming, swearing, calling everyone noobs, or using abusive language, but you're not allowed to delete my posts?:) Is that it? Awesome, nothing to say:D
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Um, so, I'm just chatting, using profanity, calling everyone noobs, or using abusive language, but you're not allowed to delete posts?:) Is that it? Awesome, nothing to say:D
NEVER have I used profanity (in posts) and I don't plan to, and INEVER called anyone noobs (except maybe myself :). And I think deleting phrases like "I'll explain it very simply" is an arrogant and unjustified nitpicking by a clearly biased comrade. Regarding "drink some poison," there were even two smileys at the end; if someone has obvious problems with humor, that's their problem, not mine. As for the off-topic chatter, I always try to communicate on the topic, but if people, as sometimes happens, start discussing my personality in the topic, and the moderators are asleep, then I have to respond.
Explain what is so offensive about the phrase "I'll explain it very simply"?
Provide the post number or a link to the post so that I don't make unsubstantiated claims.Wlk777
But if people, as sometimes happens, start discussing my personality in a thread, and the moderators are asleep, then I have to respond.
Your position is initially incorrect. If people are arguing on the forum, then all participants in the argument who violate the forum rules receive violation points or a ban, and the one who started it receives more points or a longer ban. Now I will try to fix the situation with the "sleeping" moderators. (In reality, they just didn't have enough hands to handle all of us). If you don't want to help moderate or at least not interfere, you can relax in the sauna... there's enough room for everyone.;) P.S. By the way, I used to not wait for the moderator to arrive and responded in kind, but now I have changed my point of view, and it's also not allowed by my position anymore. :)
Wlk777, I went through the thread about cons and hives, and it seems that besides Alex_R, your posts (mostly just yours) were also deleted by Taco and Wbn, and they did so with the note "personal attacks" or "off-topic." That's already like 3 moderators;). I understand that they might seem just as unfair to you as Alex_R...
But seriously, maybe you should tone down your attitude and so on, if you don't notice what you're writing... or don't understand it :). For example, on the first page of that thread, you wrote that all you were given was "childish babble about the role of the starting army." Do you even realize that you called everyone who posted above your post "children" or, rather, noobs?
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
It's awful to sit here at half-past four in the morning obsessively searching for minor flaws in other people's posts :D :eek:
Added 2 minutes later ZYbr
Do you even understand that you called everyone who posted above your post "children" or rather noobs?
Stop stop stop (C) :) I didn't call anyone anything; it's just that the wording makes it difficult to say otherwise, although I should have. Surely everyone understands that evaluating the content of posts has nothing to do with evaluating the personalities of their authors? I thought this was quite obvious...
Wlk777, well, generally speaking, it's acceptable. Imagine you wrote, "Volka is an idiot and doesn't know how to play, and he's just talking nonsense" - let's say for you, it's a joke, or maybe you could only express yourself that way because it's the only way you can make yourself understood. But for someone who isn't aware of your particular style, they might take you literally, and what's the point of trying to understand the nuances? In general, users already have a lot of freedom of expression compared to moderators, but it would be good to respect the boundaries, although I understand that sometimes you just feel like calling someone an idiot, even if it's true:)(this isn't a hint:))
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Wlk777, I went through the thread about cons and hives, and it seems that besides Alex_R, your posts (mostly just yours) were also deleted by Taco and Vbn, and with the note "personal attacks" or "off-topic". That's already like 3 moderators;). I understand that they might seem just as unfair to you as Alex_R...
Nothing like that, there were indeed many posts in that thread that deserved editing or deletion, I have no complaints about Taco or Vbn, however, the fact that Alex_R did a lot of things after them suggests that it is he who disagrees with their moderation policy, not me :)
Added 4 minutes later ZYbr
Wlk777, well, in general, he does. Just imagine that you wrote "Volka is an idiot and doesn't know how to play, and he's just talking nonsense" -
The point is that if "Volka" wrote, for example, that arrows don't fire during auto-combat, then I have the right to write that this is nonsense and rubbish, it has nothing to do with evaluating Volka's personality or mental abilities, in my opinion, and even the smartest person can write a bad phrase, isn't that clear? :confused:
Since you don't understand Russian, I will try to explain it to you in the simplest way possible - .... , if you still don't get it, drink some poison :smile41: :)
I consider these phrases contribute to developing negativity, namely disrespect towards an opponent in a discussion.Wlk777
It's awful to sit maniacally at 5 am looking for minor mistakes in other people's posts :D :eek:
Yeah, now I'm counting thank-yous.
P.S. Go ahead and ask other moderators if I'm right and whether they need help.
I don't argue, I think they are too liberal, and I also think they need help.
Should phrases like "I'll try to explain it to you as simply as possible" or jokes like "drink some poison" with two emoticons at the end be removed? Do they really need this kind of "help," and does the forum need such "draconian" moderators? :confused:
Oelm
