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In reply to Майор Вихрь

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#9105 5/30/2009 7:51 AM UTC

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People tend to reproduce in large numbers, and when there are too many... no one wants to die :smile05:

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made

In reply to Arandor

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#9106 5/30/2009 7:54 AM UTC

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Arandor

development is a good thing, but not in all directions. (this applies to science)

A curious human mind finds both peaceful and military applications for even the most harmless scientific discovery.

O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal

Registered: 3/5/2007

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#9107 5/30/2009 7:59 AM UTC

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There's plenty of land; it's just not well-developed. People would be better off focusing their efforts on creating favorable living conditions (without harming the environment) rather than on war and other foolish things.

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Maybe many have already seen this, but I'll post it anyway, just in case not everyone has read it.

One evening, I saw a boy walking along the seashore, bending down to pick up starfish that had been washed ashore by the waves and throwing them back into the water, thus saving their lives. There was a strong storm, and there were thousands of starfish on the shore. I approached the boy and said, "Look how many stars there are; you won't be able to save them all," and he replied, picking up another starfish: "Yes, I can't save them all, but for this star, tomorrow will be a new beginning," and he threw the starfish into the sea.

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When I was young and free, and my imagination knew no bounds, I thought about how to change the world.
When I got older and wiser, I realized that the world cannot be changed.
And then I decided to change my views and change only my own country.
But that also turned out to be beyond my power.
When I had lived half my life with one desperate effort, I tried to change only my family, the people closest to me.
But they didn't change either.
And now, lying on my deathbed, I realized, perhaps for the first time, that if I had only been able to change myself first, that would have served as an impetus and example for my family and would have influenced them.
And with their support and help, I could have improved the lives of my country.

Be strong. Believe

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#9108 5/30/2009 8:01 AM UTC

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Arandor

There's plenty of territory; it's just not well-developed. People would be better off focusing their efforts on creating favorable living conditions (without harming the environment) rather than on war and other foolish things.

War benefits not all of humanity, but a group of people in power. Sad but true.

O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal

Registered: 12/18/2007

Posts: 12,261

#9109 5/30/2009 8:06 AM UTC

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And you are wrong about only one thing, Vikh. In war, the bravest, noblest, and most honest people die. In war, the strongest, most resilient, and most responsible people break down psychologically. Those who return from it are cowards who hid in trenches, rear-echelon soldiers who sold weapons to the enemy, and people broken by the war who will never be normal again. The best people die in war.

And now, lying on my deathbed, I realized, perhaps for the first time, that if I could only have changed myself first, it would have served as an impetus and example for my family and would have influenced them.

You drew the wrong conclusions.

Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?

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#9110 5/30/2009 8:25 AM UTC

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Siv, I don't think it means that you just need to change yourself, and others will start changing too, just by looking at you.
You can create a music group and promote peace, love, etc., make films, organize various contests, campaigns, and exhibitions. You just need to believe in what you're doing, live by it, and maybe then people will follow your example and change their views. (not everyone, of course, but at least some)

And also, regarding the conclusion... the idea is that he himself seems to have changed, he just wanted others to change, i.e., he already had these views, etc., but maybe it means whether he showed people an example of his views, i.e., whether he behaved the way he said, or was it just talk?

Be strong. Believe

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#9111 5/30/2009 9:27 AM UTC

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Change others, how nice... but haven't you thought that others might want to change you too? Or maybe they already have, and you just haven't noticed.

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made

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#9112 5/30/2009 9:56 AM UTC

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Vis, not everyone wants to change others. Many simply live their lives, communicate with friends, and do everyday things. Those who are different from them, they consider strange, maybe they despise them or something else, but they don't try to understand or change them; instead, they might change themselves (with someone else's help). There are people who influence others, people who serve as examples, people who are listened to... but more often, these are "bad people (examples)" who don't teach anything good.

Be strong. Believe

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#9113 5/30/2009 10:14 AM UTC

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Siverfale

You are only wrong about one thing, Vikh. In war, the bravest, noblest, and most honest people die. In war, the strongest, most resilient, and most responsible people are broken psychologically. Those who return are cowards who hid in trenches, those who sold weapons to the enemy, and people broken by war who will never be normal again. The best people die in war.

So, I will die in World War III)))

ФЛУДОВСКИЕ ССЫЛКИ - конец бесполезным темам

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#9114 5/30/2009 10:18 AM UTC

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Vis, not everyone wants to change others. Many simply live their lives, communicate with friends, and do everyday things. Those who are different from them, they consider strange, maybe they despise them or something else, but they don't try to understand or change them; instead, they might change themselves (with someone else's help).
There are people who influence others, people who serve as examples, people who are listened to... but more often, these are "bad people (examples)" who don't teach anything good.

You see, you have a certain opinion about good and evil; where does it come from? It was also imposed on you by certain people. Of course, they presented it in a positive light.
In reality, it's unknown who is good and who is bad. :smile04:

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made

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#9115 5/30/2009 10:20 AM UTC

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Vikh, and you're the "villain" ;)
However, I think you would be a good politician :D
And here, imagine a situation where you have to decide: whether to kill all the weak and chronically ill due to overpopulation or not.
I would side with Ara, and I am against natural selection and war. Although, if it suddenly started, I wouldn't hide in some bunker or somewhere else))

It would be better if all the countries in the world united and started building (inventing) spaceships (transporters), perhaps they would find a planet suitable for life, and move part of the Earth's population there (although most likely the land there would be sold to millionaires, commerce, damn it).

Стартовый пост - Квенты - Разное - Список НПС -
Резара - Аксель - Орвальд - Эмилия - Стэфания - Амвросий - Лестер - Альсира - Алария -

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#9116 5/30/2009 11:30 AM UTC

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Who exactly imposed this on me?) Maybe I'm looking at people, at the world, at what's happening around me and drawing my own conclusions? Of course, I can listen to some opinions, I can think about what other people are saying and change my views or slightly modify them.

Be strong. Believe

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#9117 5/30/2009 12:13 PM UTC

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And now, lying on my deathbed, I realized, perhaps even for the first time, that if I could only change myself first, it would serve as an impetus and example for my family and influence them.

You're exaggerating...)))
Some of you say that if you tried, you could change the whole world? But have you ever thought that nothing depends on people like "us"? And that such scoundrels as Hitler seize power! Moreover, the people themselves choose such people! And then all our opinions and desires can be safely flushed down the toilet, because we still won't be able to do anything! And in the end, some new war will begin, in which many innocent people will die.

People tend to multiply in huge numbers, and when there are too many... no one wants to die.

That's why there are so many Chinese :D)). But this is very dangerous for all of us (what if there are even more of them, and they decide to take over the world, after all, they have an advantage :D)).

It would be better if all the countries of the world united and started building (inventing) spaceships (transporters), perhaps they would find a planet suitable for life, and move part of the Earth's population there (although most likely the land there will be sold to millionaires, commerce, damn it).

Revan, why don't you go and tell them that yourself :D)). But seriously, there is some logic here, but the countries still won't unite(( and even if they do unite, it won't be easier for us "ordinary" people, because there will be all sorts of confusion about who will be in charge and what language everyone will speak, and in the end a new war will begin, because no one will want to give in!
P.S.: guys, don't scold the girl for writing all sorts of nonsense (because in the end it turns out that I didn't understand everything correctly and wrote all sorts of nonsense), I'm just not very good at politics and all that...))) but I still want to express my opinion...)))
P.P.S.: I think it would have turned out better if I had been in the conversation from the very beginning

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