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well, that's just my opinion)). I've played Diablo and Sacred myself, so I can see the differences from other RPGs and draw conclusions. But you can still play them, especially online... but you yourself started the topic about puzzles and the like, which simply don't exist in Diablo and Sacred)).
P.S. And I won't even mention Devil May Cry and other games. It's just a typical console game with great graphics (although, to each their own), simply with altered combat and gameplay, but the core concept of grinding remains (like jumping on ledges where you can stumble and have to start jumping again). In general, BoD differs from these games in that the focus is more on the difficulty of combat than on such grindy features.
P.P.S. And I don't like the anime style either.

I also like DMC and Jade Empire, as well as so-called Action/RPGs, but here it is necessary to take into account that the same JE or DMoMM is practically a pure action game, with minimal RPG elements. The comparison with Gothic and TES in this case is somewhat incorrect, IMHO. The Elder Scrolls 50+ Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 36 Gothic 18 Red Alert 24 Minesweeper 20

The Elder Scrolls 48-
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 38+
Gothic 18
Red Alert 24
Minesweeper 20
By the way, Meg, Gothic is a good game; I also played the second one and liked it. The only thing that doesn't deserve a place on the list is that blasphemous heresy called TES.

The Elder Scrolls 46-
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 40+
Gothic 18
Red Alert 24
Minesweeper 20

Okay, okay, I won't touch Gothic anymore.

You are heretics! TES is the best game on this list.

You are heretics! TES is a better game from this list.

What the hell are you, you vile chaos worshiper, calling two honorable inquisitors heretics?

TES is a pretty decent game. Was that harshness a joke or just for show? O_o In any case, it seems a bit out of place. TES is at least no worse than Gothic (I'm comparing it primarily to the 3rd game and Oblivion, although according to reviews on various forums, this can be said about the previous parts as well).

The Elder Scrolls 48+
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 40
Gothic 18
Red Alert 24
Minesweeper 18-

Only fantasy haters or fantasy phobes dislike it.

TES is at least as good as Gothic.

Heretic. Gothic had interesting quests and diverse ways to solve problems (I remember in the second part, you had to sneak into one district - I can recall 3 solutions off the top of my head, and each of them will play a role later). And TES? "Please find my ring!" We find the ring, return it, and get a reward. Then we go to do the next quest, and so on, endlessly. In general, if you (this is an address to everyone) think that TES is a good game, you don't understand the essence of an RPG.

and what is a sapper for?) Amko didn't just throw him in here for no reason)).
P.S. There are different quests in TES, not just about finding rings. For example, in Oblivion, there were cool quests with guilds, where you had to kill in special ways, or a quest with a guild of mages about a deceased student. It amused me... in general, there were many cool quests in Oblivion, in Morrowind it's a bit different)). But in Morrowind, quests are not marked on the map, which makes the game more interesting)).
and the physics are good in Oblivion, the battles have become much better)).
P.P.S. Moreover, I doubt that you played the 1st and 2nd TES.

Amko didn't just throw him here for no reason.

He actually placed him here, thinking it would be "original," not just for the sake of cutting him down.

I think TES is a good game, and Morrowind was a real breakthrough in the RPG genre.

And the physics in Oblivion are good, the combat has improved a lot.

OF COURSE, WITH SUCH GRAPHICS!!!!!111

TES has different quests, not just about finding rings. For example, in Oblivion, there were cool quests with guilds, where you had to kill in specific ways, or the quest for the Mages Guild, about the deceased student. It amused me.

where you had to kill in specific ways

where you had to kill

kill

kill

kill

kill

This is the whole great meaning of TES.

Moreover, I doubt you played the 1st and 2nd TES.

Did you play?

Morrowind was a breakthrough in RPGs.

I have bad news for you - the best RPGs (I take into account not only my opinion, but also the opinions of fans of other RPGs) were released BEFORE Morrowind, or in the same year as it.

Meg, yeah, I know, right?))
I don't know why he chose Minesweeper specifically, but he wanted something less original (less so than a scarf), so that people would criticize the game, rather than consider it "original" and increase its rating just for fun.)

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Siv, by "killing in a special way," I meant the Thieves' Guild quest (or a couple of them), and the rest (of which there are many) don't involve killing at all.
Yeah, I agree, the game is almost entirely linear, but even with that, it's pretty good! The story is decent, and there are some interesting quests (maybe not all of them), and the world itself, with its atmosphere and structure, is enjoyable!

In Oblivion, for example, the Assassin quests were interesting and could be completed in different ways. And if you didn't want to get involved and preferred to do everything quietly, you sometimes had to stop and think a little, plan your actions. Morrowind was a bit more boring (the Elder Council quests were terribly tedious), but there were also positive aspects. And it was interesting to explore the storylines, even if they weren't particularly non-linear.

In general, if you (this is an address to everyone) think that TES is a good game, then you don't understand the essence of RPG.

In general, there's no need to put yourself above others. I think TES is a good game, and I have reason to believe that I understand RPGs to some extent, at least because I've tried many of them, both computer and forum versions. I even tried a tabletop RPG once.
Of course, I wouldn't call TES the best – this series is far from reaching heavenly heights, but the games are quite decent (Morrowind and Oblivion, I haven't played the earlier ones). Overall, I liked The Witcher the most, although the combat system was a little disappointing (target locking), it was somewhat simplistic; in my opinion, TES Oblivion is a little better in this regard (The Witcher has a large variety of moves, but they are strangely monotonous).
And NWN 2 didn't really appeal to me. Although my last experience was ruined by the system.

The Elder Scrolls 48 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 40 Gothic 18 Red Alert 26+ Minesweeper 16-

The physics are good in Oblivion, and the combat has improved significantly.

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