Posts from Counter-heroes in duel mode (3.1).

- What about Haggess-Ossir, you say... well, here the entire starting lineup decides. Often, almost always, Haggess's shooters move before Ossir's and manage to significantly wear down the Wasp shooters, then go on to frighten the horses or the druids. Generally, I don't really like this pair, like all pairs involving Orcs. Everything here comes down to very careful microcontrol over creatures and tactics. And when you've seemingly controlled everything and done it right, your Orcs, as luck would have it, fail to get morale, and all the tactics built on the assumption that the Orcs will somehow get morale go down the drain. Anyway, I don't like Orcs.

I checked recently, Haggess has decent chances against Ossir. It was obvious that the opponent initially underestimated the Centaur Chieftainess. Despite the fact that Centaurs were on the list of sworn enemies and the Nymphs moved earlier, killing most of the Nomad Centaurs, I was still able to even out the chances of victory closer to mid-game and tipped the advantage in my favor. The Frightening Roar helped a lot. Overall, thanks to all the players who share their experience in this thread, I really found many valuable tips and recommendations here.

- Helmar against Orcs. Garuna cuts him down pretty well. If you're lucky, again)

Yes, the chances are equal here. Once, while playing against Momokl in a random matchup, I got Helmar against his Garuna. I got lucky there when the resistance against fireball didn't trigger for the nearby Pack Leaders, Executioners, and Shamanesses, which are Garuna's main striking force. Again, I suggested he play a mirror match, and this time my Garuna took out his Helmar, even though he played quite well.

The situation is similar in the battle of Garuna against Ravenna. Ravenna is also a Chaos hero, and there's a chance that resistance against her spells will trigger. Usually, the Vampires among the Necropolis troops attack first here, and they need to be taken out immediately so they don't have time to blind a significant portion of the Orc troops. If the player orders the Vampires to wait, then we move the troops slightly forward and put the Orc fighters in the path of an expected attack from the Ghost Dragons. Here, there's a greater chance that the opponent will order an attack, and after that, we concentrate our attack on the Dragons. It's advisable to remove the retaliation from the Dragons and Vampires with Goblins and Orcs or Cyclopes. We use Reinforcement on the Centaurs, and during Garuna's subsequent turns—either the Morale Cry or direct attacks. You can also remove Stun with the Pack Leader's order if possible.

I'm also interested in the Deedra-Marbas pair. I'll upload a save with a Marbas victory later (for some reason HeroesWorld doesn't let me upload replays:confused: ), but it doesn't say much, as the opponent made many unforgivable mistakes. Several months ago, I lost with the same Marbas, though I was playing against a much more experienced player then. So I still can't determine who has the advantage in this battle.

I'm also interested in the Deidre-Marbas pair. I'll upload a save with a Marbas victory later (for some reason HeroesWorld won't let me load replays:confused: ), but it doesn't say much, since the opponent made many unforgivable mistakes. A few months ago, I lost with Marbas myself, though I was playing against a much more experienced player at the time. So for now, I can't determine who has the advantage in this battle.

Marbas has a pretty significant advantage here. We tested this pair with Dexter once... He estimated Deidre's chances in this matchup at around 5 percent after that.
Tactics for Deidre: first turn Berserk on the Demonesses, they're usually positioned near the Overlords; in response, they can take out half the Demonesses with fire. Then Light spells, plus Vampire Lord on the Dragon on the fourth turn. That's the ideal scenario.
In reality: Berserk might be resisted, and the Dragons might not survive until your Vampire Lord arrives.
Tactics for Marbas: the positioning must be correct, namely: Demonesses hide behind Overlords and Demons, Imps are placed between two Devils, Hounds are on the other flank from the Demonesses, and the Devil closest to the Overlords shouldn't stand adjacent but one square away.
Everyone holds position in defense; when the Necromancers get close to the Demons, Marbas simply roasts them with fireballs (after which the Demonesses, if not Berserked, shoot the roasted ones); as they approach, place Mangals right in front of the Devils and Overlords, and that's it.)
No replays, since this pair isn't very popular on Ubi, but it should all be clear even without replays.

Now, Marbas vs. Oora, a pretty interesting matchup. I always thought Oora had a 100% advantage, but it turns out it's not so simple. Marbas can get such lucky resists that by the time the Archdemons drag the Golems out of the corner of the field, quite a lot of Hounds and Demonesses remain. So it's not a guaranteed matchup, though there might certainly be disagreements on this. Personally, I've only lost this matchup to yatohasy; he played really well back then, and I did too, but I still lost. That's why we play against strong players and practice.

Sharing my impressions: I can’t seem to beat Shakh Kurat. Here’s just one example:

I don’t understand at all what the advantage of Deleb is. And Ory, too. Share your experience, kind people:)
Yes, lately, I’ve been getting demons exclusively in random matches:


I’m adding Razak with Ravenna. It was an interesting battle, but I made a big mistake at the end and, as a result, lost: :cool:

Deleb vs. Karuk, a rather interesting matchup, but Karuk has a slight advantage here. By the way, Albolabris is a very strong player, and it's not a problem for him to capitalize on this advantage. Marbas vs. Ogre. I already wrote about this matchup; I'll try to post a decent replay of this pair. Although it didn't turn out to be that great, it's still clear that Marbas can defeat the Ogre. The only problem is that Marbas didn't get enough resists. And Nimue vs. Dyrael, I'm also posting a replay, showing how Dyrael can defeat Nimue. Moreover, Yatohasi, a very strong player, was playing as Nimue. Regarding the Ogre's advantage, you probably already understood from the replay what the Ogre's advantage is. She can defeat many heroes in this way. That's why strong players don't like her. Axel, Marbas, Deleb, Anwen, and Dyrael are all, to varying degrees, victims of this Ogre's tactic. By the way, she has a fun battle with Grauna. Yesterday, I played a couple of duels with Albolabris. He has become very strong; you can tell that he really wants to play well in duels. As for me, my wife is walking around with a frying pan, and my daughter either wets or soils herself. In short, during the third duel, my wife simply turned off the lights, and that was it. And we had a noteworthy duel. His Shaka-Karuk against my Karl. In the early game, we both destroyed the machines. He did it with the help of daughters and cyclops, and I did it with the help of archers. And now, the harpooners have only four shots left, and the priests have six. They will all be consumed by the orc's rage. If Karl goes forward, that's also a death sentence; it will be impossible to ensure a numerical advantage there (in front). Therefore, we were simply doomed to a stupid mutual destruction of heroes:smile13:. Since neither of us would go forward. At that moment, my dear wife pulled the switch and, with shouts and curses, kicked me away from the computer:smile19:

I watched the replays, it was very informative, and I learned a lot about the tactics for playing as Or and Dyra'el. However, I still have a question: how to defeat Shakk-Kurath, what tactics should be used against him? And another question, how to play as Deleb, what are her advantages? If you have any, please post replays with them. I don't know why, but yesterday in random battles, only demons were appearing, and twice I had my Deleb against Kurath (twice in a row). P.S. I don't know if you watched my replays or not, but Marbas defeated Or, and Nimus defeated Dyra'el. However, I can't judge the level of the opponents:smile32:. P.P.S. Regarding the children, I have two, one is 3 years old, and the other is one and a half, but my wife isn't around with a frying pan:D.

Deleboy and Dirael will definitely not be able to defeat Shakk-Karukata (although I did manage it). He is usually defeated by similar heroes, that is, those with skillful defense and a large army, such as Marbas, Karl, Orson, and Airi (of course). There are also other heroes who can defeat him, but you need to be able to properly equip them. He also has natural counter-heroes: Jaleeb, Deirdre, Ossir, and Helmar. You can try to defeat him with chaos-specialized mages like Synitar, Orai, and Ravena, but again, you need to put in a lot of effort and also get lucky, especially with Synitar. Deleboy... she turned out to be a very unbalanced character, very powerful in attack but very weak in defense. You need to play her very carefully, building your attacks strictly according to a plan, no adventurous attacks. If you attack with, say, the cavalry of the Yarli, and they retaliate, immediately send your entire army to finish them off. To be able to do this, you need to approach with Devils in the first turn, getting them close. Deleboy is strong against mages with low mana, such as Aks, Deirdre (but with difficulty), Razzak, and I don't remember the others (Karl, I think), and Orcs (I remembered Jaleeb:D). She was created to achieve the impossible, that is, to demonstrate tactical knowledge and skill. I don't have replays right now because I'm at work (and, to be honest, she doesn't have that many interesting matchups). I found one replay: The final tournament, "Hunt for Dwarves": dexterwar (Deirdre) plays against vsev (Deleboy), version 3.0. In this version, Deleboy has a better chance than in 3.1.

Thanks for the replay; it was unexpected for Delki. I didn't understand what you meant about Jalib:confused: Here are some new replays; my duelist was genuinely surprised by such a tactic from the Stronghold: And this is almost the first successful experience playing as the Orcs: :smile13: And just Ravenna against the Stronghold: :smile49: If you comment, I would be very grateful:p

Regarding Jalib, he loses to Delebe quite easily. Regarding replays: Ora-Anven. Everything is probably correct in principle (didn't watch it all the way through), except for the positioning behind the ranged unit. The way I positioned myself in the Ora-Marbas replay is generally how you should always position yourself behind the ranged unit, except for a few matchups where you need to position the army in the corners or when you really need another spellcaster with a dispel ability. Garuna_Razzak, this is a very unstable matchup. Anything can happen; I wouldn't assign anyone to Razzak. Raven-Ora, again, Ora has the advantage, using the same tactic.

The Deidre-Axel pairing is quite popular on the server. Since I usually have Axel set as my default hero, Deidre is often chosen as an opponent against him. In reality, this pairing is not very well understood by players, and mistakes are made quite often. It's difficult to play as Deidre in this matchup; you need to have a very good understanding of the initiative order and generally know how to play.
Yesterday, I played this pairing as Axel, and my opponent played quite well; it was some new account (Ex_ungue_leonem), and he was already playing well.
And today, on the contrary, I played as Deidre. Playing as Deidre, I made quite a few small mistakes, but my opponent made even more.

Learning to play by observing strong players, although it's not very successful yet:smile39: :


And a couple of victories:cool:


Unfortunately, I don't always remember who I played with, I'll start taking notes.
Please leave comments:smile02:
P.s. The battle recording with the Dwarf was included by accident; I don't remember much about it.

Yesterday, I played this match as Axel, and my opponent played quite well. It was a new account (Ex_ungue_leonem), and they were already playing well.

I watched this replay, and it seems like my opponent disconnected, although the loss wasn't obvious:confused:

Orson is taking down a unit that is actively casting Armageddon:smile52: :
:D
And here, Orson is taking down Erin:smile54:

P.s. Thanks in advance for your comments:smile01:

Absolutely!

Happy belated holidays to everyone!

Today, I updated my post number 106 on page 11, according to your corrections and additions. It turned out to be 4 pages in A4 format :D

Mega-respects to ildaryk, KonServator, and Alex_R. All copyrights have been observed ;)

Questions:

1. What is the 2nd duel channel? Is there a difference in where you play?

2. Please upload a replay of Haggesh vs. Ossir, with the setup and subsequent victory of the Orc. :smile41:

3. Guys, a few words about playing as Dirael, she seems to have a pretty cool upgrade system :)

P.S. Yulcha, see you at the Ubicom :smile13:

Upload a replay of Haggesh-Ossir, with a well-planned setup and a subsequent victory for the Orc.

Please... I will also upload four recordings of battles with victories for my favorite Garuna, and a not-so-interesting replay of a battle between Vittorio and Orson. Here is a standard setup: in the corner of the field, both stacks of archers protect the Inquisitors and Griffons with Zealots; the Knights and Landlords are boldly sent into the fray to delay the approach of the undead hordes.

Garuna vs. Erin: a battle with an unexpected outcome; at the end, there were 80 Goblins under Berserk and 2 Cyclops against 3 stacks of Witches with a total of about 25 - luck ultimately decided everything.

Garuna vs. Anwen: I deliberately arranged the troops so that the Chieftains, Shamans, and Executioners would not be hit by the opponent's first strike. This is all about tactics; then, we simply increase the attack, starting with the weakest Fairies and Dancers.

Here are a few more replays:
1. Razazak (albolabris) - Letos (Mister_Twister). I didn't know this matchup, so it was a complete failure on my part. Lately, I've been making terrible mistakes, like placing dragons across the map. And in general, when I face such opponents, I can't seem to focus. Although, I used to put even stronger players in a bind. I haven't been playing much lately. Razazak has decent chances against Letos in this kind of terrain, as you can see.
2. Nimus (albolabris) - Iris (Mister_Twister). I redeemed myself a bit, although I was on the verge of losing. Again, albolabris shows that there are almost no completely losing matchups.
3. Orson (A42b) - Ora (Mister_Twister). If you put in a little more effort, you can make the Hive and Orson work. For Orson, I probably should have focused on overall speed, then used banshees, teleported skeletons, and kept summoning more and more.
4. And as a bonus, a couple of Orson-Vitya replays. I think I already posted this one, but just in case. Vitya has a strategic advantage in this matchup. A Void Gate just appeared, but otherwise, you need to push everyone into one corner, place griffins in front of small units on the side, and then start attacking after the archers die (and they will die if Orson doesn't mess up), replacing them with Landlords.

I haven't had much time to play lately. So, I apologize to everyone if I can't respond in time or can't play with someone.

I'm posting an interesting replay of how my Anwen Jhalib gets destroyed:smile34:. I'm not a very good player, but it's still interesting to watch the tactics:smile54:.
:smile16: