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Featon
What's the point of banning the black magic amplifier and buffing vampires? And banning strong heroes?

Play online, and you'll understand the reason.
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Noooo... Necromancers aren't a very strong faction... I can defeat them easily... Who's up for a challenge????
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Write your “challenge” here: /topic/4362/ :D
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I don't really see much potential in winning with Necropolis without resources, with a minimum of resources, and without a bunch of easily defeated monsters. And since most scenarios have to be completed in this way, there isn't much desire to take the incomparable Vidomira. And in general, the very possibility of increasing your army for free is not a good thing.
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Tower. The Tower is very effective against the Necropolis. If they don't have Solmyr, take Josephine with her golems. But keep in mind that the battle won't be symmetrical, i.e., you can't compare Titans to Dragons, Nagas to Golden Knights, etc.
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Necropolis! They are very effective against towers. If they don't give you Galtran, take any decent Death Knight and go for it. The battle will definitely be uneven. :D :D
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It's impossible to say that any race has a decisive advantage. All races are different, yet roughly equal, which is why the third installment of Heroes of Might and Magic remains so popular. I maintain that the Tower faction can effectively counter the Necropolis. Titans are stronger than Dragons, Core Nagas are stronger than Evil Knights, and it's difficult to drain the life from Gargoyles and Golems. The Tower has its own strengths; you just need to know how to use them.
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2Avern. Regarding Josephine, I assume that was a joke? It doesn't seem like it's April Fool's Day. :D

And if they don't let you play as Solmyr, have you tried playing as Nello? :)
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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2Avern. Regarding Josephine, I assume this was a joke? It's not April Fool's Day, after all :D
Now in ТЕ, Josephine is Stinger's big thing! And he certainly knows his heroes ;)
In SoD, of course, it's nonsense :D
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The chance of the Red Tower winning against Necropolis with rule restrictions is around 30% (for a standard map), while the opposite is 10-15%. Naturally, this assumes equal skill levels for players on both sides.

What's wrong with Josephine with full stacks? She's an excellent hero for the start, and then it depends on how things unfold. Otherwise, you can't take a "left-wing" hero into snowy areas, and it's risky to rely on random morale boosts from hats.
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It's impossible to say that any race has a decisive advantage. All races are different, but roughly equal, which is why the third Heroes game remains so popular.
I argue that Tower can stand up to Necropolis. Titans are stronger than Dragons, Core Nagas are stronger than Gold Knights, and you can't easily defeat Gargoyles and Golems. Tower has its own advantages; you just need to know how to use them.

Overall, the post is quite accurate, but online realities somehow suggest that Tower – let's put it mildly – is on its knees before Necropolis:D. In general, Tower's main advantages against Necromancers are a weak opponent, ranged units, and a rush no later than the second week with powerful magic and a couple of hidden Gremlins and Mages:) .

...And when Titans appear... several thousand skeletons will attack them and won't even notice:smile24: :D!
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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I'm such a bore, spending the whole day watching online game reports for Winter 2009: very few people are playing as Haven or Necropolis. Please provide a link to the statistics of battles between Wizards and Necromancers so I can check their performance.
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2 Avern
The thing is, in this case, comparing units one-on-one isn't entirely accurate. Because Necromancer's skeletons destroy a lot of things. For example, they take griffon conservatories and hives very early on, where they supplement their army with angels and wyverns. And they can also take Utopia very early, which provides gold and artifacts... So, by the time they meet, the Necromancer's army and stats are usually noticeably stronger than Fortress'... Of course, Fortress has a library, and their magic is usually good, plus early on, gremlins provide a lot of offensive power, but overall, Necromancer is still somewhat preferable (due to the number of skeletons, which translates into better hero stats).
That's why there aren't too many people who want to play Fortress against Necropolis...

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What a bore! I've been sitting here all day watching the online game reports for Winter 2009: very few people are playing Tower or Necropolis. Give me a link to statistics on battles between mages and necromancers so I can check how things stand.
Hmm... Indeed, there is no such statistic. That is, it exists, here, for example, for autumn:
/topic/at/213740/
At the bottom of the post, there is a BMP table; one good person put in the effort. It says that Necropolis and Tower played to a 1-0 score :) And even then, it seems to me that this was my first ridiculous online game (I was playing as Solmyr); now I wouldn't take Tower against Gosha for anything – it would be suicide...
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to Lider1, thank you for the personal message. Solmir, Nella, Torosar – there are plenty of options to choose from. to Kash, excellent table. If I understand it correctly, then Tower and Necropolis played against each other three times. The score is Tower/Necropolis +1/-2. The sample size is too small to draw conclusions. I'll clear up a bit at work and try to defend the honor of the Tower.

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