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Offline vbn
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I believe that the Stiky ratings are very objective, but as a permanent rating, it cannot be considered for a seasonal role!!!
Who is talking about a Seasonal rating? If you mean resetting the rating, then: at the end of the Season, we will reward the leader with a medal, as before, but we will not reset anything (or we will do it after 2, 3, 4, ... N seasons, it's up to the Heroes of Might and Magic community to decide). Do you agree?
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Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth...
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This suggests that the situation needs to change, and Stikki's rating has proven itself to be 100% accurate, and in my opinion, it is the best rating currently available among all portals.
+1, I didn't delve too deeply into Stikki's formula, but it seems to be more objective.
Я ламер и играть не умею, нах!:smile33:
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Who's talking about a Seasonal mode? If you mean resetting the ranking, then: at the end of the Season, we will reward the leader with a medal, as before, but we won't reset anything (or we will do it after 2, 3, 4... N seasons, it's up to the Heroes of Might and Magic community to decide). Do you agree?
A permanent ranking is great! The chess ranking system is, in my opinion, the best! But let's say someone climbs high and doesn't play in the next season, but remains the leader. What then? Should we reward them for 2 seasons?
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I'm also FOR it. With both hands and feet! I really liked the rating system!
I'm ready to vote!
It's a great alternative to what we have now.

PS: I completely agree with Lebron (but he wrote it first))

And if you also create a table showing who played against whom and who won/lost, it would be amazing!!!
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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The chess rating system is, in my opinion, the best overall!
When I compared my rating system with the chess rating system, I found that when strong players win against beginners in chess, they sometimes receive 3-4 times more points than in my system. And since, in the past, the practice of accumulating points by playing against weak opponents was very common among some players, I didn't consider the chess rating system. And to prevent this from happening, the system should remain unchanged, in my opinion.
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When comparing my rating and chess ratings, I found that when strong players win against beginners in chess, they sometimes receive 3-4 times more rating points than in my game.
In chess, there's a system where if a player has played few games, their rating growth coefficient is higher. And after 2400, the coefficient is intentionally reduced (Classical chess, FIDE rating).
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It's a shame the discussion died down...

I'd like to know what you decided regarding this issue!
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Finished updating the rating. Thanks to everyone.
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I suggest removing Djede and CelestialArchangell from the ranking, as they are CHEATERS, and annulling the results of all games they participated in. Furthermore, this should be done with all identified cheaters in the future.
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Offline Wicc
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It would be nice to have win/loss statistics in the adjacent columns...
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I suggest removing Djede and CelestialArchangell from the ranking as they are CHEATERS, and annulling the results of all games they participated in, and doing the same with all other cheaters in the future.
It's not fair to everyone, because if someone spent time and won, why shouldn't they get the points they deserve? Whether they cheated in this particular game or not is another question... although someone might say that the fairest thing to do is to let the player who played with them decide whether to defend their games or not.
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It's unfair to everyone because if someone spent time and won, why shouldn't they get the points they deserve? Whether or not they cheated in this particular game is a different question... although, someone might say that it's even fairer to let the person who played against them decide whether to protect their games or not.
Okay. I'll speak for myself. I'm not interested in playing with such people (I wish I had known beforehand :( ), and winning against them isn't something to be proud of. Thankfully, I don't have any losses against them (2 wins against Djede, haven't played against Archangel), so no one can accuse me of having a personal interest. I believe that this rating should be for HONEST players, and CHEATERS absolutely have no place in it, nor do the results of games with their participation. That's just my opinion.
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Okay, I'll speak for myself. I'm not interested in playing with such people (I wish I had known beforehand :(), and winning against them isn't something to be proud of. Thankfully, I don't have any losses against them (2 wins against Djede, haven't played against Archangel), so no one can accuse me of having a personal interest. I believe that this rating should be for HONEST players, and CHEATERS absolutely have no place in it, nor do the results of games with their participation. This is just my opinion.
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The current ranking system is incredibly flawed. There are players ranked higher than me, even though I've consistently defeated strong opponents in fair matches (and I'm not the only one). Many of these higher-ranked players haven't even won a single game, or are outright cheaters who don't even know the basics of the game. As for Vigo, that's a whole other story. I can confidently state, and I'm always ready to prove it, that he is a cheater, at the very least in the direct sense of the word. I've discussed this with many serious players in private messages, and no one has defended him. He's scammed and wronged many people. If I'm wrong, I apologize; I'm just saying what I think.
P.S. If this post is deleted, I will keep reposting it until I get banned.
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Offline LeBron
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I agree. It's a strange table, and the main oddity is the people with 0 games played; it should be fixed. :smile42:
And, of course, we need to remove the cheater who is currently in 1st place. How long will this continue? :D

"Это нам идеально подходит!" [Новосибирск, 2013]
"Красавчик! Если только не читер.." [Киев, 2014]
"Это Вам не шутки - нажрался Dust в маршрутке" [Новокузнецк, 2015]
Сам ты фиш (с) :D
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