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17 years ago
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Definitely – I’m for lifting the ban on Loi and everyone who defended “Fair Play”!!!!
To be honest, I don’t care what happens to the girl, and it seems like nothing will happen anyway… but the fact remains, and there’s no need to refer to her being female here. So, what’s this? If my friend registers on World of Xeen, puts up an attractive photo, and starts causing trouble, will the gallant inhabitants just wag their fingers at her, say “naughty, naughty,” and forgive all her misdeeds? Alina, you shouldn’t do things like that – there are no pushovers here. Play like everyone else, and people will be drawn to you :D
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17 years ago
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And who can guarantee that the Jedi is a girl and not some bearded, bespectacled guy? I support unbanning everyone who was banned (despite personal grievances). And whose decision was it to ban them? The country should know its heroes.
What about the second cheater? Was he banned?
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17 years ago
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And what about the second cheater? Has he been banned?
Yes, by the way, regarding the second cheater))). It's understandable that all the attention is on the girl, but they completely forgot about the second hero))))). Wow, it's like an invasion or something :)
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17 years ago
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Whose decision was it to ban? The community deserves to know its heroes.
That's a good question. In my opinion, such moderators should be kicked out and replaced with authoritative, respected, always polite and courteous people who carefully consider their words and actions. Like Pavel Dubrovin, for example ;)

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Yes, by the way, about the second cheater))). It's clear that all the attention is on the girl, but they completely forgot about the second player))))). What a plague, or something :)
But no one has forgotten, and no one will likely play with him anymore. Except maybe Judge :D
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17 years ago
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Loya and Stiky, please unban us!

My opinion regarding bans. As the coordinators stated, this forum is a fan forum, and its primary purpose is communication, not competition. Based on this, and this is my conclusion, moderators don't ban cheaters, believing that the tournament organizers should exclude cheaters, but they ban those who violate the principles of communication. In general, there is some logic to this.
From everything I've read in these discussions, there was indeed excessively aggressive behavior, resistance, disproportionate to the action. As Smoke recently wrote, "one post and that's it" - and that would have been enough. But Hacker also overreacted. Vbn acted most wisely by simply closing this topic until a better time.
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17 years ago
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I killed the Psykers. Although my losses weren't as high as the author's, I still managed to win. To achieve victory, I had to do the following: I dismissed the Wyverns and replaced them with a single Troglodyte (in theory, it doesn't matter which unit you use as bait, I decided to focus on morale; in theory, I could have won with the Wyverns as well), which lured the Psykers in the first round. In the first turn, the Manticores attacked with morale (under the shield), and then the main thing is not to get hit by double attacks, and it's all simple. In the end, I had 3 Cats, 5 Eyes, and 8 Medusas left. The Medusas also got morale towards the end, but it didn't matter anymore. I could have saved the Angel by simply flying it to the edge of the screen :D

P.S.: Well, this is complete noob play, of course. Please teach me how to lose only 4 Troglodytes? Here's a reasonable question: how is it even possible to lose only 4 Troglodytes? If even 1 Psyker attacks the Troglodytes, it will kill more than 4 - that's a fact, and you can't separate the single units either... So, it's clear that something is fishy :D

P.P.S.: Save files before and after.
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17 years ago
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It's not a good idea to exclude such, let's say, "unsavory players" from Tournaments. Their inappropriate gameplay shouldn't be factored into the ranking at all! Especially now that we have a permanent ranking system, not just a seasonal one. I don't know who's in charge of world chess right now, but imagine if Anand stole Kramnik's rook while he wasn't looking:rolleyes:. Even if they weren't playing in an official tournament. And if asked where the piece went, since all the moves are recorded, he'd reply: "The system wrote it!" and then, right under the stunned opponent's nose, he'd snatch the queen as well. The same thing is happening on our site now. And it's not funny anymore because it's done so cynically that even Ostap Bender would be impressed! Someone might say that our scale is different... But there were ideas for seriously promoting "Heroes 3," for consolidating all thematic resources, for creating unified rules; I even heard that "Heroes 3" is more complex than chess. However, with such a careless attitude, how can we even talk about a great future for the online Heroes 3 community (at least on our forum)?
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17 years ago
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Greetings to all true Heroes fans and those who have been following the events.

Of course, I'm in favor of unbanning Loя.
But was it worth it to beat one's chest and so stubbornly defend this person for 20 pages, especially when it's about the player's behavior (as has already been written, anyone can put a picture on their profile...) - after facts were presented.

I'm saying that such situations should not happen again, and we shouldn't penalize our Heroes fans: a group of people should check the saves of players like Dirty, WBN, Invisu, etc., and the decision should be discussed in ICQ (I think this is possible).
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17 years ago
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And what about the second cheater? Has he been banned?
second one?:smile07: are we going to start all over again?
By the way, only coordinators or administrators can ban – moderators can only issue penalty points.
Your price is urine and feces,
You are an ill-mannered idiot.
by the way, you get penalty points for such a signature...
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17 years ago
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CelestialArchangell is the second cheater; he was also the first one. Britva exposed him slightly earlier.

/topic/5510/
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17 years ago
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Britva was also suspected of cheating... No offense, just thought it was funny :)
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17 years ago
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Why also? He was only suspected, and only Vigo was implicated, but here everything is already proven.
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17 years ago
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QUOTE=Dreamcatcher]Britva was also suspected of cheating... No personal offense, it's just funny. :)[/QUOTE]

It's one thing to suspect someone of something, perhaps because of wild fantasies or personal dislike, and another thing entirely: the facts speak for themselves!
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17 years ago
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I wouldn't want to drag this out, but it's not good to talk about suspicions of cheating or hint at it without facts. As far as I understand, Andrey-britva was banned on the Portal for using abusive language towards the moderators, and that's not the same thing. I've been told that he plays unfairly, but I received refusals when asked to review his save files. So, for me, the presumption of innocence applies here.

P.S. If there are facts, please write to me in a private message so as not to clutter the thread unnecessarily.
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17 years ago
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Unfortunately, Alina cannot be on the forum right now.
But I talked to her via ICQ.

Vitaly (11:37:37 6/03/2009) Hello!
+L'dink@ (11:38:17 6/03/2009) Hello
Vitaly (11:38:33 6/03/2009) Please write about yesterday's game with Smoke in this thread:
/topic/3516/
+L'dink@ (11:39:30 6/03/2009) I would gladly do so, but my internet is down.
+L'dink@ (11:39:41 6/03/2009) I know everything that they are writing there.
+L'dink@ (11:39:50 6/03/2009) They sent it to me in ICQ.
Vitaly (11:40:01 6/03/2009) and what do you think about it?
+L'dink@ (11:40:40 6/03/2009) Maybe not everything was sent to me, but I don't understand why I am being accused again?
Vitaly (11:41:10 6/03/2009) yes
Vitaly (11:41:45 6/03/2009) for example, on day 1-3-2 versus day 1-3-3,
Shakti killed 49 psychic elementals and lost only 4 troglodytes.
Vitaly (11:41:53 6/03/2009) how did you manage that?
+L'dink@ (11:42:31 6/03/2009) These are the ones in red robes?
Vitaly (11:42:37 6/03/2009) Yes!
+L'dink@ (11:43:15 6/03/2009) I need to check, let me see.
Vitaly (11:43:27 6/03/2009) Please take a look and answer me.
+L'dink@ (11:50:23 6/03/2009) One elemental has 15-25 [damage], trolls have 5 health, one deals an average of 20 damage.
Vitaly (11:51:26 6/03/2009) yes, that is clear.
Vitaly (11:51:34 6/03/2009) but how did you kill 49 of them?
+L'dink@ (11:53:18 6/03/2009) I was running around the field.
Vitaly (11:53:35 6/03/2009) what is the speed of the elementals?
+L'dink@ (11:53:46 6/03/2009) 9
Vitaly (11:53:52 6/03/2009) okay.
+L'dink@ (11:55:46 6/03/2009) They were standing in a pile.
Vitaly (11:56:37 6/03/2009) How could they stand in one pile with such strength of your army?
That couldn't have happened.
+L'dink@ (11:59:39 6/03/2009) Trolls, angels and wyverns distracted him, minotaurs and bulls protected the archers, because my expert tactics placed medusas on one side of the map and glaives on the other.
Vitaly (12:01:03 6/03/2009) I understand! but unfortunately it is impossible to kill 49 elementals while losing only 4 troglodytes.
You don't need to write anything more about battle tactics,
it's clear that this is impossible.
+L'dink@ (12:05:56 6/03/2009) Now I will upload my save file, let me see.
Vitaly (12:06:15 6/03/2009) ok, go ahead, I'm waiting.
+L'dink@ (12:12:39 6/03/2009) 1 angel, 4 wyverns, 23 glaives, 10 minotaurs and 7 bulls are left.
Vitaly (12:14:23 6/03/2009) 10 minotaurs? you had 9 before the battle.
+L'dink@ (12:15:15 6/03/2009) There were 10.
Vitaly (12:16:04 6/03/2009) And how much experience did Shakti have before the battle?
+L'dink@ (12:17:48 6/03/2009) These are the bulls, there were 9.
+L'dink@ (12:18:24 6/03/2009) 20443
Vitaly (12:20:18 6/03/2009) I understand...
+L'dink@ (12:27:50 6/03/2009) My head is already spinning from arguing. I'm tired of proving something; it's just a game, not life, and it's not worth such arguments. If every battle is broadcasted, one can go crazy, and I've had many battles... So do whatever you want with me, ban me if you want, or continue to discuss it. Thank you for trying to help until the end. But I really don't cheat and have always been against it because cheating makes the game uninteresting.
+L'dink@ (12:28:11 6/03/2009) And in general, I am an old man.
Vitaly (12:29:09 6/03/2009) It doesn't matter anymore, I've already asked for you to be banned.
Vitaly (12:29:46 6/03/2009) For an indefinite period...
I don't know if you will ever be able to return under your nickname on heroesworld...
+L'dink@ (12:30:19 6/03/2009) Nothing terrible, it can be forever.
Vitaly (12:31:31 6/03/2009) I understand... this is up to the administration now...
But if you ever want to come back to the forum,
I think it would be better to register with a new nickname,
and of course, play fairly.
+L'dink@ (12:37:36 6/03/2009) Yesterday Smoke told me that he understood that I was playing fairly. Then I asked him to tell everyone, and he said okay and left ICQ after five seconds.
+L'dink@ (12:38:32 6/03/2009) I realized why he apologized...
Vitaly (12:38:39 6/03/2009) Why?
+L'dink@ (12:39:08 6/03/2009) Because he felt ashamed.

In view of the above, I ask the administrators to block user Djede on HeroesWorld.ru for an indefinite period due to unfair gameplay (cheating), complete illiteracy in the game itself, utter recklessness, denial of obvious facts, attempts to attract attention in such a vile way that it turns into extreme disrespect towards forum users...

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