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I will return to this topic later; I'm busy right now. If you can't accurately determine my guilt, then there's no need to judge prematurely.
Djede
Posts from Controversial issues and their resolutions.
LeBron
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If you provide normal save files, then we can take a look – but there’s no point in even trying to figure out this mess!
Save files made during an opponent’s turn don’t provide any useful information! When will you understand this..?
P.S. I took Ogre and Ulag without significant losses, but it was quite easy. ;)
P.P.S. I’m much more interested in why Tazar, with 3 roads and 2 knights, takes a restart.
Save files made during an opponent’s turn don’t provide any useful information! When will you understand this..?
P.S. I took Ogre and Ulag without significant losses, but it was quite easy. ;)
P.P.S. I’m much more interested in why Tazar, with 3 roads and 2 knights, takes a restart.
Oelm
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In short, if the losses are displayed incorrectly, then it's all nonsense, and Smoke's behavior is simply disgusting. If you have daily reports, share them; otherwise, it would be better to stay silent. For beginners: if the army didn't suffer losses on the mage towers, then after the Hive, approximately 45 units and 5 dwarves survive, plus 6 sprites. It's time for the moderators to delete the unnecessary posts, and for you to apologize.
Dirty_Player
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I'll come back to this topic later, I'm busy right now. If you can't accurately determine my guilt, then there's no need to judge prematurely.
scorp
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This isn't a theoretical discussion; a perfectly reasonable doubt has been raised about fair play. The point isn't just to defeat 28 Ogres and then immediately attack with a Hive of 6 Vultures on Mephala. The point is that after that, the losses should be exactly as described (or comparable) – 7 Elves, 2 Dwarves, 21 Butterflies – all Cyclops, Hydras, and Air Elementals should be intact (because one Air Elemental is given to Jelar to speed things up). In my opinion, this is impossible. I believe there was foul play.
+1. No need for lyrical digressions; no one here is a monster; everyone is simply annoyed by the scheme.
I didn't even know who to quote.
What theory? ;) – It was a battle! Won on the first try.
In the Hive, only the Butterflies are hit by the Vultures first. We take out the last Vultures and attack with the Cyclops (you can kill 9 Vultures with luck). You don't even need to fight with the rest. In the second round, the Vultures attack the Dwarves – this is Mephala level 2 with advanced armor (the Dwarves are almost intact)... and so on. I repeat, you can win in the Hive with even fewer losses!
P.S. I always knew that cheating is impossible to prove.
P.P.S. If it's a ranked game, you can choose your opponent, but in tournaments, if he's present, unfortunately, you're out of luck, so hope for the best and trust.
P.P.P.S. These saves don't say anything about cheating; you can only assume whether there's any point to it
Dreamcatcher
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And I fell for those save files, I'm ashamed :smile32:
Smoke_mk
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I have no intention of apologizing to anyone. For me personally, these saves are sufficient. I don’t think she refuses to play online after this conversation because she’s offended… Let’s assume that everything was fair here, but there were other issues that not only I mentioned in this thread; three people expressed distrust towards the player Djede. I no longer want to play with her, that’s it… Draw your own conclusions, and don’t attack me, as they say, there’s no smoke without fire, right, Loi?
Hermit
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So, if saves made during an opponent's turn don't accurately reflect the number of troops, then the topic should be closed. Djede is not at fault. She is an honest player, and I believe her, and if possible, I will definitely play with her, and I hope that others will too... And, in general, let's add some notes to the rules, stating that unfair play should only be proven with detailed saves made during the accusing player's turn!
Loi
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Let's close this thread due to lack of evidence. Smok, apologize! It's your own fault for not making proper save files!!!
Dirty_Player
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Why does she refuse to play online after this conversation?
invisible
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I'm not going to apologize to anyone. For me personally, these saves are enough. Why does she refuse to play online after this conversation? I don't think it's because she's offended... Let's assume that everything was fair here, but there were other issues that I and three other people mentioned in this thread, expressing distrust towards the player Djede. I no longer want to play with her, that's it... Draw your own conclusions, and don't attack me, as they say, there's no smoke without fire, right Loi?
Dirty_Player
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First of all, it was I who advised him to post them on the forum; I think it's the right thing to do.
Secondly, the Vivs are already in the army, and almost the entire army is there. Thirdly, these topics still need to be raised.
Oelm
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Yeah, there is that aspect to it. I'm not going to defend anyone behind their back, and cheating should definitely be fought against. And I don't really believe in universal honesty. But to post two save files and accuse someone of cheating is low. And this isn't happening on the forum for the first time. If a ban is being discussed, then this should also be a reason for a ban.
The save file is certainly questionable, to say the least. But if you see questionable moments, you should immediately draw attention to them. Saying "let everyone decide for themselves" is wrong, because everyone can decide differently. For example, there's a game on the forum with comments from Alexa-R, where he suspects his opponent of cheating. And it's quite clear that his opponent revealed the map. But, still, we have to admit that the main reason for distrust now is that we're simply afraid to admit that a newbie can play at such a level. How can we, experienced online players, not be able to play like that, but some new person immediately shows us all how to play. And that's bad!
As for the save files, I would definitely use high elves, I'm not sure I could win without them. Without the upgrade, the battle is difficult, with nuances, I only figured out how to fight after the third try. In principle, one morale isn't scary for the ogres. So, I approached the hive with 7 elves, 44 centaurs, and 8 dwarves. Naturally, the loot is good. What bothered me wasn't that Smoke suspected cheating, but how he presented it.
Smoke_mk
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How can you not understand? Have you even read any of my messages where I openly called her a cheater?
I didn't even mention it to her in our private messages.
I said I would post the save files for everyone to see. I've made my decision, is that clear now?
I didn't even mention it to her in our private messages.
I said I would post the save files for everyone to see. I've made my decision, is that clear now?
SEM_56
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Let's close this topic...
All disputes should be discussed in ICQ, and the moderator should delete everything here; reports should be posted here....
After my game with Jade (which wasn't finished), I opened the save file and saw that with 150 unupgraded Trogols, from level 117 to 124, she defeated 16 Medusas, 24 Dragonflies, 60 Gogs, a bunch of Champions, and only lost 21 Trogols, and the Hero was only level 5, what a surprise.....
I trust the opinion of Dimon (Smoke) and the respected Loi...
Maybe we are not experts in Heroes, but we are not fools, TOPIC CLOSED...
P.S. IF THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT ME IN ICQ!!!!
All disputes should be discussed in ICQ, and the moderator should delete everything here; reports should be posted here....
After my game with Jade (which wasn't finished), I opened the save file and saw that with 150 unupgraded Trogols, from level 117 to 124, she defeated 16 Medusas, 24 Dragonflies, 60 Gogs, a bunch of Champions, and only lost 21 Trogols, and the Hero was only level 5, what a surprise.....
I trust the opinion of Dimon (Smoke) and the respected Loi...
Maybe we are not experts in Heroes, but we are not fools, TOPIC CLOSED...
P.S. IF THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT ME IN ICQ!!!!
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