Power Buildings — General

UTER

7/20/2006 6:17 AM UTC

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I recently had a long argument with someone about the best way to develop a Fortress. We couldn't reach an agreement.
Now I want to know what you think.
Personally, I prefer harpies, ogres, and monsters.

Sergh

7/20/2006 6:21 AM UTC

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I'm for Cyclops... and I agree with the rest...
I understand that Cyclops don't have a very high growth rate... but it's kind of unpleasant to live without archers altogether...

Мечты сбываются, просто нужно уметь правильно мечтать.

Жизнь нужно прожить так, чтобы Боги в восторге предложили еще одну...
P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:

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UTER

7/20/2006 6:22 AM UTC

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Sergh;20810

I'm for Cyclops... and I agree with the rest...
I understand that Cyclops don't have a very high growth rate... but it's somehow unpleasant to live without archers at all...

What about Centaurs?

Sergh

7/20/2006 6:26 AM UTC

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Centaurs... they aren't archers... at least, that's my opinion :)
Who are you planning to shoot at with them? :D

Мечты сбываются, просто нужно уметь правильно мечтать.

Жизнь нужно прожить так, чтобы Боги в восторге предложили еще одну...
P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:

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UTER

7/20/2006 6:30 AM UTC

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Sergh;20812

Centaurs... they aren't archers... I think so :)
Who are you planning to shoot them at? :D

Whoever I have to!

Пандора

7/29/2006 11:42 AM UTC

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I'm also for Cyclops ;) With a bit of luck, they can hit three enemy units at once :) They are quite strong...
* When I'm facing a strong enemy, I always cast the "Confusion" spell on the Cyclops :D It's a great way to counter archers :D

Maybe I just don't understand Orcs. I don't think they're very useful :rolleyes:

As for the higher-tier creatures, I'd go with Thunderbirds. They have good growth. Plus, they have a counter-attack with lightning :)

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UTER

7/31/2006 4:27 AM UTC

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Pandora;22269

Among the higher-tier creatures, the Thunderbirds are a good choice. They have good growth and a lightning counterattack.

The birds are decent, but the monsters are better.

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Пандора

8/2/2006 9:51 AM UTC

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UTER;22454

Birds are good, but monsters are better.

For me, it's the opposite :D Monsters are too slow... Besides, they are not suitable for sieging a castle, and even more so, for defense :( Birds are more mobile ;)

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Sergh

8/2/2006 5:22 PM UTC

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Pandora;22996

For me, it's the opposite :D The monsters are too slow... Besides, they are absolutely unsuitable for both sieging a castle and (even more so!) for defense :( Birds are more mobile ;)

Okay, let's assume they can do a lot during a siege... they can deal with those who have entered and stand guard at the gates if necessary,
but during an assault... it depends on many things... for example, on teleportation magic (if available), and in general... birds won't do much during an assault either... you wouldn't just throw them in alone, would you? :confused::)

Мечты сбываются, просто нужно уметь правильно мечтать.

Жизнь нужно прожить так, чтобы Боги в восторге предложили еще одну...
P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:

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Пандора

8/3/2006 9:30 AM UTC

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Sergh;23056

Well, let's say during a siege, they can do a lot... they can deal with those who got inside and stand guard at the gates if needed.

I'm not arguing that they can't. It's just that their speed doesn't appeal to me:confused: In my opinion, the birds are stronger, faster, and more effective. :) The monsters might be more reliable, but...

Sergh;23056

and during an assault... a lot depends on various factors... for example, on teleportation magic (if available), and in general... birds won't do much during an assault either... you wouldn't throw them in alone, would you?

Of course not alone... But with birds, you don't have to waste an extra turn on a Teleport, Speed, Flight, or some other spell...
;)

RomaShSh

8/5/2006 12:16 PM UTC

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In my opinion, nomadic ogre-birds are the way to go. Nomads – if you have a mage, weaken the enemy hero with spells and drive them towards him – death to heroes above level 23 (lower-level ones die anyway). Ogres – if you use the previous scheme, cast Bloodlust on the nomads, and you know the plan. Birds – there are many of them, and they are not weak against Haven creatures.