[HoMM IV DUEL TOURNAMENT ON] "Snowstorm" — Tournament History online

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#46 1/24/2009 9:10 AM UTC

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No, the map was originally created without any artifacts. If they were present in all maps, we could somehow balance them, but as it is, I don't think it's possible.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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#47 1/24/2009 9:45 AM UTC

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We tested it with the Wanderer – in the first round, on a mini-map, Chaos is definitely playable and quite successful. But in subsequent rounds, it’s not so clear-cut, which is what I was trying to say. When we played against the Luminary, Order also looked quite good in the first round – but again, only in the first. So, draw your own conclusions, gentlemen. We can play without any changes – I don’t mind either way, given this situation, I won’t be playing as Order or Chaos. I simply wouldn’t be afraid to play Order against Chaos, but definitely not the other way around. And if it’s for fun, to be honest, I’d like to play as Order against any race – just to see what they can do.

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#48 1/24/2009 11:14 PM UTC

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So, what’s the final decision? Are we going to schedule return matches? Just don’t delay with the old ones either.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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#49 1/24/2009 11:26 PM UTC

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Or maybe everyone could just play against everyone else, without mirrors?
I think that would be much better.

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made

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#50 1/24/2009 11:52 PM UTC

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Mirror drafting is designed not only to increase the number of games but also to level the playing field between players, as the right to choose first gives an advantage at the start.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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#51 1/25/2009 12:52 AM UTC

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WisTrit

I mean not mirror matches, but rather each player plays against every other player in their group twice – i.e., the first game, player 1 is the host, and player 2 is not. The second time, the opposite – player 2 is the host. In the second game, the draft happens again, and the game is not played with the same races as in the first game.

Because I see that you thought the second game would be with the same races, and that's what you meant by "mirror matches." That's not the case.

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ZYbr

Well, yes, it seems like everyone is ready. It's just a matter of scheduling the games. I only need to finish playing with Leshy from the first games. Otherwise, we can start playing the return matches.

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#52 1/25/2009 1:03 AM UTC

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Okay, then let's consider the question closed. Regarding filling out the tables, taking into account the accepted changes, I will summarize the results. For example:

Dr Motor def ZYbr 2-0
ZYbr lost Dr Motor 0-2

Dr Motor receives two points, ZYbr receives zero.

or

Dr Motor def ZYbr 2-0
ZYbr def Dr Motor 2-0

Both players receive one point.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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#53 1/25/2009 1:15 AM UTC

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ZYbr

Well, the principle is roughly the same, only the tables themselves need to be kept a little differently, in my opinion. You know how football league tables are kept? The table for our group should look something like this if it's formatted like a football league table.

Group A
№		1	2	3	4	.P.	.W.	.L.
1	ZYbr	---		2:0		3	2
2	Dr Motor	2:0	---		2:0
3	LeSHiJ-MaX			---
4	Lu41k	0:2			---

Here, a row represents a player - this is the home games of that player, and a column represents away games.

P.S. I might have messed up, it's easy to get lost in these tags :)

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#54 1/25/2009 7:06 AM UTC

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I made some changes. Version 2.0 is available here.

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#55 1/25/2009 9:27 AM UTC

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2 Dr Motor, I don't want a football-style one, because it's easier to keep track of and fill in using the current scheme (well, for myself :-[), and you can see the results in the reports thread if you want.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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Posts: 354

#56 1/25/2009 9:57 AM UTC

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ZYbr

that's true, it's just that it seemed more convenient to me. But honestly, I don't care what form this table takes;)

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#57 1/27/2009 2:59 AM UTC

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Fellow friends, don't you think our tournament is progressing a bit sluggishly? I must admit, it... how shall I put it... slightly discourages me. What was the point of introducing rematch matches, can anyone tell me? It seems everyone rushed in, shouted "hooray, let's play rematches," and that's where it ended. Everyone has scattered back to their corners. In particular, there's a noticeable lack of activity among the participants in group B. Perhaps we could become a bit more active?
In short, everyone who hasn't yet had the honor of battling me (or stopped halfway through), whether it's their first match or a rematch, is welcome to step into the ring – don't be shy. I'm almost always online in the evenings (and not just in the evenings – so we can always arrange a time).

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#58 1/31/2009 7:34 AM UTC

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I was wondering about something – can the Charm spell be used when playing as Haven? Those who have played Haven in a tournament – did you use Charm? We were playing, and there was a battle between Life and Haven – did Haven take a piece of Life's already small army? Could you please clarify in the rules whether this is allowed or not?

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#59 1/31/2009 11:53 PM UTC

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I don't think it's possible, but we should wait for clarification from the map creator.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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Posts: 354

#60 2/1/2009 12:13 AM UTC

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ZYbr

But you played as Haven against me – did you use Charm?

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